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I'm In It to Win It | Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Donkees Apr 2016 OP
Too late. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #1
NEVER TOO LATE... kadaholo Apr 2016 #2
Thank you for your negativity. I hope someone is negative to you today too. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #27
This is a movie quote ... surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #37
Thank you, Bernie! JDPriestly Apr 2016 #3
GO CALIFORNIA! kadaholo Apr 2016 #4
Why? Cary Apr 2016 #9
Because Bernie's campaign is in addition to being about the presidency, JDPriestly Apr 2016 #11
I don't do cults of personality Cary Apr 2016 #14
it's the exact opposite of a "cult of personality" magical thyme Apr 2016 #15
That's nonsense Cary Apr 2016 #34
like his leadership in an attempted revolution stupidicus Apr 2016 #16
a "cult of personality" AlbertCat Apr 2016 #21
no kidding stupidicus Apr 2016 #39
I'd be more impressed with your "revolution" if you could manage to not do tbe Cary Apr 2016 #35
stuff your asinine projections stupidicus Apr 2016 #38
The point is much of his agenda must be adopted, eventually, by whoever is in the WH Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #29
I can accept that Cary Apr 2016 #36
I'm really glad he's going to stay in the race and fight. Luciferous Apr 2016 #5
Me too! erlewyne Apr 2016 #28
indictment nt. GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #6
THAT'S Plucketeer Apr 2016 #7
Except his campaign has begun to lay off field office staff. pnwmom Apr 2016 #8
People who have been laid off can be rehired. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #12
Thrifty Bernie has been far outspending Hillary in campaign ads pnwmom Apr 2016 #13
different definition of thrifty. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #23
And spending more money to lose-- than the winner spends to win -- isn't spending well. pnwmom Apr 2016 #24
Uh, he has a message.... AlbertCat Apr 2016 #40
There goes Camp Weathervane again Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #10
^^ that Locrian Apr 2016 #18
That's right... ReRe Apr 2016 #22
And we are legion. n/t ReRe Apr 2016 #19
Go Rabbit Go!! Exactly right!! haikugal Apr 2016 #32
darn the torpedoes and Hillarians stupidicus Apr 2016 #17
Me too, Bernie. Me too! mountain grammy Apr 2016 #20
1:18 mark: "Unusual things happen in politics." Hmmmm... nt antigop Apr 2016 #25
Me too, because "f**k that s**t!" Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #26
is he fighting to ensure a trump win? MariaThinks Apr 2016 #30
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #31
Agree completely!! haikugal Apr 2016 #33

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
37. This is a movie quote ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:40 PM
Apr 2016

... from "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington":

I guess this is just another lost cause, Mr. Paine. All you people don't know about lost causes. Mr. Paine does. He said once they were the only causes worth fighting for. And he fought for them once, for the only reason any man ever fights for them; because of just one plain simple rule: 'Love thy neighbor.'... And you know that you fight for the lost causes harder than for any other. Yes, you even die for them.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. Thank you, Bernie!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:25 PM
Apr 2016

That is reassuring. We are just beginning to organize and work in California.

Yes. Because of the Electoral College system, our individual votes do not count as much as those of people in other states, and yes, we are late in the game, but we have the right to vote, and we are, many, many of us the most progressive people (maybe with the exception of Oregon) in the nation.

We want to have our say and vote.

And we want as strong a Bernie presence at the Democratic Convention in July as possible.

Feel the Bern!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. Because Bernie's campaign is in addition to being about the presidency,
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

a campaign to change the political structure of our politics. It's a political revolution.

Bernie wants more people to vote and is discussing issues that have real impact on people's lives in language they understand.

Read his book, and you will understand why I want Bernie to keep fighting through the convention and beyond.

The TPP is, for example, an issue in opposition to which we need a strong, strong movement.

The trade agreements are just corporate coups. And we need to rewrite or cancel them. They are not compatible with our Constitution or with democracy.

Bernie is the real deal. Read his book.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
14. I don't do cults of personality
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is ok. I'm quite familiar with him.

I don't see the connection between what he is doing in the campaign and this alleged political revolution. This doesn't jibe with my experience with government, real deal or not.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
15. it's the exact opposite of a "cult of personality"
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie decided to pick up the mantle when Liz Warren opted out. Liz and Bernie became the "establishment" voice of the Occupy movement.

And national matchup polls show time and again, that is the voice of the majority.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
34. That's nonsense
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

I don't see any distinctinction between your faith and any other religion.

And I'm not a believer.

I could cite plenty of evidence to dispute your winability claim but you've certainly seen it and you choose to stick with your faith instead. That's fine. You can believe that the earth is 5,000 years old or whatever else your faith lays claim to but you really do need to identify that as faith.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
16. like his leadership in an attempted revolution
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

could/should only be characterized as a "cult of personality".

I suppose that should be expected from those who would belittle the effort for whatever cause, be it animus or ignorance

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
21. a "cult of personality"
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

is more like going gaga over name recognition and an association with things, like being "a progressive", even tho' the name is in no way "progressive".

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
39. no kidding
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016
A cult of personality arises when an individual uses mass media, propaganda, or other methods to create an idealized, heroic, and at times worshipful image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

which doesn't diminish the insulting quality of it whatsoever

It differs little intent, etc, from the "extreme/loony left" designation the same type of _______ are also fond of using -- to paint us individually and collectively as undesirables or worse.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
35. I'd be more impressed with your "revolution" if you could manage to not do tbe
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:22 PM
Apr 2016

Ad hominem schtick.

I have a fair amount of experience with actual cults. I'm not saying your "revolution" is a cult but attacking me for not toeing the line is a hallmark of cults. I experienced this same behavior from Ayn Rand cultists at the Atlas Society. I have experienced it with a couple of nasty martial arts cults. I experienced it just walking past LaRouchies and having the nerve to ignore their stupid advances.

It's lame behavior. If your "revolution" is righteous it will stand on its merits, not on your rude behavior.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
38. stuff your asinine projections
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:29 PM
Apr 2016

you expected what, a wet kiss for insulting his supporters and the long overdue "revolution" with your belittling/demeaning characterization?

Again, I don't care if your insulting rhetoric choice is due to ignorance or apathy and all the negative things that go into that state, it is still an insult whether intended as such or not.

of course Mr "I don't do the cult of personality thing" wasn't saying Bernie and his supporters are a cult/making such a comparison. Do you know the diff between a hole in the ground and your.....

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
29. The point is much of his agenda must be adopted, eventually, by whoever is in the WH
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

or this country will fail.

period.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
36. I can accept that
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:25 PM
Apr 2016

But then we must coalesce as Democrats to roll over the real enemy.

And I have been viciously attacked just for saying that.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. People who have been laid off can be rehired.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is very, very thrifty. He does not waste money like most candidates.

And there are not so many states with elections in the future.

I wish good luck to all of Bernie's supporters and field workers and employees. Thanks to each and every one of them for the work they are doing and have done.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. Thrifty Bernie has been far outspending Hillary in campaign ads
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016

and the costs of his rallies were huge.

You must have a different definition of thrifty.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
10. There goes Camp Weathervane again
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

They still think the campaign is about the election of 2016. How unambitious. How shortsighted.
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This campaign ends when neoliberalism is extinguished, however long that takes, by whatever means are necessary.

We are in it to the end.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
18. ^^ that
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016

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They have no clue that it's not about playing the same political game. In that status quo game, you're supposed to sit down and let the game continue unchallenged. Not continue to fight.

It's about staying in to reach more people with the message. It may not be Bernie - it may be someone else that can benefit from hearing what he has to say.




ReRe

(10,597 posts)
22. That's right...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

... They don't know how to "Think outside the box," as Bernie says. It's an abstract 3-word concept that flies right over their heads while they sit there in a trance.
Well, they better wake up. It's getting late.

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