Mike Malloy - How Can You Be A Democrat And Vote For Hillary Clinton?

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[Victor_c3]

2. If Hillary is a democrat then I guess I'm not

As a completely disabled veteran produced by a war Hillary supported I kind of have a problem with her stance on war. I'm also not happy about her stance with Wall Street.

However I guess a lot of people like war and wall street so they are fine with Hillary. So goes the majority of the Democratic Party.

[shakedown1970]

23. I'm in the same boat, and couldn't agree with you more.

Very well said.

[jtuck004]

3. They were Democrats in 1971, turning over schoolbuses of black kids, inciting their kids to riot and

beat them for daring to enter their Democratic stronghold in Oklahoma.City.

Proud Democrats.

http://billmoyers.com/2014/05/12/how-bill-clintons-welfare-reform-created-a-system-rife-with-racial-biases/

As a Democrat recently said, hearts don't change.

[RoccoR5955]

4. Clinton is a DINO

Not an actual Democrat, but a neo-con. She even states that she lives by conservative values.
How can I vote for someone who is running as a Democrat, but does not have the values of one?
I don't think I will.

[DinahMoeHum]

5. Because, Mikey, political purity is bullshit.

The only thing that counts is winning.

Whoever gets the Democratic nomination will have my vote in November. Even if it is Hillary.

[jtuck004]

8. 'The only thing that counts is winning." You are wrong.

It is not truth that matters, but victory.
Adolf Hitler

And so was he.

[DinahMoeHum]

22. Godwin's Law, huh? You gotta do better than that.

n/t

[jtuck004]

36. Gonna need better than a one-bank shot to sink that one. n/t

[griloco]

12. Yep.

[Madmiddle]

15. That makes me sad to know you have not done the research about this Oligarchist selection process.

[DinahMoeHum]

24. What does that mean? How old are you, anyway?

I'm 60 and I've voted in 10 POTUS elections, starting in 1976.

Please elaborate about "not done the research"

Thank you.

[tonyt53]

30. 62 here

I was in the first 18 y/o that got to vote. I registered to vote about ten minutes before I registered for the Selective Service. I've missed two primary elections and never a general election. it chaps my ass how these new bernie-ites now want to tell lifelong Democrats that we do not know what we are doing. Bernie-ites that never bothered to register to vote, but now want to hijack the Democrat Party all while registered as independents. That have no idea why there are closed primaries, and evidently neither does Bernie.

[DinahMoeHum]

32. +1000s

If you can, please read the 2 links I've included in my last post here (post #29). See what you think.

[shakedown1970]

25. Wow.

It's all about teams? How f*cking shallow.

[DinahMoeHum]

29. Yes, it IS about teams, like it or not. Nobody wins alone.

And if what I've just said isn't good enough for you, how about reading the words of 2 bona fide progressives, playwright Tony Kushner and longtime political activist Doris "Granny D" Haddock?

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2003/11/tony-kushner-radical-pragmatist

http://www.alternet.org/story/15789/don't_stand_in_the_way_of_our_joy

In particular, please read the last 3rd of both articles, where they explain what politics is really all about.

[tonyt53]

31. Perfect!

Bernie-ites say that Mother Jones is a Hillary-loving organization and nothing else.

[DinahMoeHum]

33. They actually say that????? Wow.

Do they even know who Mary Harris "Mother" Jones was?

[Maedhros]

34. What you call 'purity', others see as 'having integrity'.

I see which side of the 'integrity' argument you fall.

/bye.

[DinahMoeHum]

35. FYI, I voted for Sanders in the NY primary.

And BTW, Sanders has said that if he does not get the nomination, he will back up the eventual nominee for the general election. Even if it's Hillary.

But if you want to go against him (despite your DU avatar), good luck to you.

[yallerdawg]

6. How can you be a Democrat...

and advocate for not voting for the Democratic nominee?

Sore loser much?

[Starry Messenger]

18. +1

[DinahMoeHum]

26. +1000s

[Gman]

7. How can you call yourself a Democrat and not?

[appalachiablue]

9. A Democrat who has Kissinger, Kagan and Koch in her corner. What's not to like?

[RATM435]

10. And DINO was her name-O.

[djean111]

11. I cannot and will not. n/t

[rtracey]

16. not sure

Not sure they want you. Party unity is important. Not every candidate is perfect, but we sort out the good from the bad, we search for things that can happen, not just veiled speeches that will not be. Promises in a campaign is not new, but reality must prevail.

[zalinda]

17. If you mean party unity by party cheating, then vote on. eom

[rtracey]

21. I will

I will vote for the nominee, and I will be jubilant when the democratic nominee wins the white house, but if the GOP prevail, I will not be on this site screaming and stomping like an idiot, swearing and cursing the voters. I will be coming out against anyone who feels its better not to vote, or vote cross party lines in order to get back at whomever. Then once the election is in the books, I will be looking for a new forum to use, instead of DU. This site has been nothing but a wasteland of vitriol behavior.

[gordianot]

13. I come slightly closer to trusting her on a Supreme Court nominee.

On everything else my expectations near zero. This from a third generation 40+ year voting Democrat. The impeachment hearings should be spicy and I will focus on the Vice Presidental choice.

[zebonaut]

19. But...but...but...she's..........."Hillary". It's all name recognition

[dhill926]

20. it's quite easy....

vote for the Democratic nominee, or help elect Trump.

[deathrind]

27. It is very...

Confounding. Her positions on the economy/ environment/ conflict resolution/ Wall Street/ healthcare etc. are all at odds with what the Democratic platform has been.

[highprincipleswork]

28. I guess we're going to have to call this "Liberal-splaining" or somethin'.