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Tea Partier Melt Down in Pittsburgh (Original Post) Norbert Jun 2012 OP
such rage. irisblue Jun 2012 #1
Yikes. chollybocker Jun 2012 #2
The guy in the black shirt ate you for lunch. DaDeacon Jun 2012 #3
Black shirt guys facts are: repeating cliches over and over, louder and louder, Old and In the Way Jun 2012 #5
LOL, The guy in the black shirt was an idiot.... Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 #7
Enjoy your stay! greiner3 Jun 2012 #42
True Believers - Doubling Down on Stupid. Old and In the Way Jun 2012 #4
That first guy in the red hat obviously attended the Andrew Breitbart School Marie Marie Jun 2012 #6
That was disturbing AsahinaKimi Jun 2012 #8
See his face...from a distance, hehe wxgeek7 Jun 2012 #28
That made me physically ill. It's not funny to me. freshwest Jun 2012 #9
People think Presidents are kings. Have no idea of what the separation of powers is. patrice Jun 2012 #10
I was greatly relieved Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2012 #11
$6 TRILLION DOLLARS!! ErikJ Jun 2012 #12
"My job was sent to India!" And he blames Obama?! pacalo Jun 2012 #13
+1 eaglesfanintn Jun 2012 #18
It reminds me of Alice in Wonderland talking to the red queen zeemike Jun 2012 #20
Hannity or Jabba the Rush obviously does not have a talking point for this situation. Norbert Jun 2012 #36
60,000 factories closed in the US since 2001!! ErikJ Jun 2012 #22
Hilarious wake.up.america Jun 2012 #14
When Mittens wins the election and strip mines the country Katashi_itto Jun 2012 #15
I agree, there is nothing funny about this Flint Stone Jun 2012 #16
+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #17
"We're doing what they ruling class has designed, spending more time fighting each other DianaForRussFeingold Jun 2012 #30
Flintstone Norbert Jun 2012 #37
The Tea Party has but one sole purpose: Lars77 Jun 2012 #19
Let's not let them do that to us~"United we stand, divided we fall." DianaForRussFeingold Jun 2012 #35
BTW, who was butchering that Frank Sinatra song in the beginning? Crowman1979 Jun 2012 #21
I watched to 5:00 minutes........... mrmpa Jun 2012 #23
Here's the part these Teabaggers don't want to know. Ganja Ninja Jun 2012 #24
I wish that someone smarter than me and with a little more time would put together a fact sheet like Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #26
This guy is so far gone; a goner is my name for them kimbutgar Jun 2012 #29
"The Divide Is Coming" Red Knight Jun 2012 #25
idiots like this would very surprised to learn how many liberals own guns frylock Jun 2012 #32
the Tea Party is in favor of more restrictions on the H1B Visas? Enrique Jun 2012 #27
I don't doubt individual TPers are for restrictions... JHB Jun 2012 #39
Is it time The Wizard Jun 2012 #31
This is pure evidence that the tea party.. less lee Jun 2012 #33
Luckily the stupid is mostly old here Generic Other Jun 2012 #34
"What's your vision for the country?" JHB Jun 2012 #38
if it really takes 4 of these fools to argue with EACH of us, Volaris Jun 2012 #40
Attrition takes time... JHB Jun 2012 #41
One thing to keep in mind: THIS is part of what fuels the TPers JHB Jun 2012 #43
 

DaDeacon

(984 posts)
3. The guy in the black shirt ate you for lunch.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:27 PM
Jun 2012

LOL, well at least that's what he thought however you really should have came in with more facts to counter him.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
5. Black shirt guys facts are: repeating cliches over and over, louder and louder,
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:31 PM
Jun 2012

and faster and faster so gray shirt guy can get a word in edgewise. Typical dialog I'd expect from a True Believer...hardly worth the time to argue with him. You won't ever change that guy's mind.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
7. LOL, The guy in the black shirt was an idiot....
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:09 AM
Jun 2012

A typical misinformed fox news viewer and a limbaugh lap dog, a racist hater and a birther,
Once Koch brothers funded teabaggers, sean hannity and fox news clowns, and rush limbaugh planted the hate
seed, they have created the most division this country have seen in decades, and not by accident. they counted on hate
and oh boy did the create it.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
4. True Believers - Doubling Down on Stupid.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:28 PM
Jun 2012

What can you say...they lose their jobs and refuse to link the Republican predatory capitalism to their own loss of jobs. Fascinating insight into operating mind of a teabagger.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
6. That first guy in the red hat obviously attended the Andrew Breitbart School
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:40 PM
Jun 2012

of reasoned debate. All mouth and no facts.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
8. That was disturbing
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:19 AM
Jun 2012

But it fits the way a Fox Viewer would try to win an argument, by yelling louder and spouting "talking points". This guy in the black shirt and red hat is in the Sean Hannity Army! He's walking around pretty much after thinking he just mentally "kicked some liberal ass" but all it made him look like was a frothing at the mouth, tea bagger, who has been drummed up so tight by watching FOX NEWS.

This guy and his friends are the ones we have to beat at the polls come November! I would like to see his face, when Obama wins a second term, it would be priceless.

wxgeek7

(321 posts)
28. See his face...from a distance, hehe
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:39 PM
Jun 2012

I wouldn't want to be around nut-jobs like that dude, when Obama wins this November.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
11. I was greatly relieved
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 01:35 AM
Jun 2012

that Grey Shirt apparently left this scene with all his teeth. Kept waiting for Black Shirt to take a swing at him.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
12. $6 TRILLION DOLLARS!!
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:18 AM
Jun 2012

Yeah you TP idiot-$2 trillion of that's from from Bush tax cuts, $2 trillion from Bush recession, and $ 2 Trillion from Bush wars and military buildup!

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
13. "My job was sent to India!" And he blames Obama?!
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:31 AM
Jun 2012

Where is this teabagger getting his information?



Tuesday, February 10, 2004

Bush report: Sending jobs overseas helps U.S.

By Seattle Times wire services

WASHINGTON — The movement of American factory jobs and white-collar work to other countries is part of a positive transformation that will enrich the U.S. economy over time, even if it causes short-term pain and dislocation, the Bush administration said yesterday.

(...)

In his message to Congress yesterday, Bush said the economy "is strong and getting stronger," thanks in part to his tax cuts and other economic programs. He said the nation had survived a stock-market meltdown, recession, terrorist attacks, corporate scandals and war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and it was finally beginning to enjoy "a mounting prosperity that will reach every corner of America."



(...)

Last year's Economic Report of the President predicted that 1.7 million jobs would be created in 2003. Instead, the nation lost 53,000 jobs. In Bush's three years in office, 2.2 million jobs have disappeared.

Since the Great Depression, it has never taken this long for the economy to begin creating jobs after emerging from a recession. After the last recession ended in 1991, it took 14 months for employment to begin expanding. Current problems with the economy have gone on nearly twice as long, 26 months.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001854367_bushecon10.html








eaglesfanintn

(82 posts)
18. +1
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jun 2012

I was wondering how can someone actually believe that it's better for the American economy if products are made overseas.
He tried to list off the jobs that were part of bringing those shirts to America without thinking that if we exported our shirts instead of importing them, those people in shipping would still have jobs as would clothing industry workers.
That was some serious backasswards logic.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
20. It reminds me of Alice in Wonderland talking to the red queen
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jun 2012

"you can't believe that it's impossible" said Alice...
"nonsense my dear...I make a point of believing 10 impossible things before breakfast each morning"

Norbert

(6,040 posts)
36. Hannity or Jabba the Rush obviously does not have a talking point for this situation.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:45 PM
Jun 2012

With that said this guy was caught off guard and was left to his own devices to quickly think of something on his own and he pretty much fell on his face. Yeah, on shore shippers can ship hats and clothing whether its made here or in China so there went a good part of his argument. Knowing his best was feeble, that's when he went devcon. I'm sure the shouting was in part his call for backup which quickly came.

It's still funny to me but in reality I have pity for him.

wake.up.america

(3,334 posts)
14. Hilarious
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:46 AM
Jun 2012

Hilarious

It's getting ridiculous. The need to belong to a group outweighs the desire to think rationally.

Sounded as if the guy in the black shirt yelled "Hau' ab." (Get lost)

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
15. When Mittens wins the election and strip mines the country
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 05:43 AM
Jun 2012

These morons will be starving to death under a bridge and still blaming the liberals for their plight

Flint Stone

(29 posts)
16. I agree, there is nothing funny about this
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 06:43 AM
Jun 2012

For many reasons:

1. A nation divided will not stand.

2. This is the results of the corporate takeover media takeover - ignorance

3. I have to ask myself, was the propaganda of Nazi Germany this effective???

4. Instead of antagonizing these fellow countryman, maybe we should be cultivating our common interests and concerns. You catch more fly's with honey than you do vinegar.

5. We're doing what they ruling class has designed, spending more time fighting each other than fighting them.

I could go on and on. I truly pity the guy in the black shirt, and so should we all. If I had to sell shit made in China to feed my family don't think for a minute I wouldn't do it. Probably the only thing this alleged liberal was wearing that wasn't made in China is his shoes - that makes him a hypocrite in my estimation.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
30. "We're doing what they ruling class has designed, spending more time fighting each other
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jun 2012

than fighting them."

"I could go on and on. I truly pity the guy in the black shirt, and so should we all. If I had to sell shit made in China to feed my family don't think for a minute I wouldn't do it. Probably the only thing this alleged liberal was wearing that wasn't made in China is his shoes - that makes him a hypocrite in my estimation."

I guess you proved your point!!!

edited to add..
Just curious...Who do you mean by "ruling class"?

Also, If the "ruling class" want us to fight each other....Why let them do that to you?!

Norbert

(6,040 posts)
37. Flintstone
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:11 PM
Jun 2012

"Probably the only thing this alleged liberal was wearing that wasn't made in China is his shoes - that makes him a hypocrite in my estimation."

I would give the guy the benefit of a doubt. You would be surprised at what clothing you can get that is made in the USA right down to the skivvies. You may have to online shop for some but it is there.

If I would fault the guy for anything it is being a little foolhardy. I wouldn't walk into a potential hornets nest and rattle their cage. I don't heal as fast at my age plus you just don't know what some of those anger management candidates are capable of.

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
19. The Tea Party has but one sole purpose:
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:54 AM
Jun 2012

To direct peoples anger and frustration that comes from republican AND democrat neo-liberalist policy away from the culprits and onto the government, and democrats.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
35. Let's not let them do that to us~"United we stand, divided we fall."
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jun 2012
Maybe it's not too late to learn from ancient History...


"The Four Oxen and the Lion"
"A lion had been trying to attack and kill the four oxen.
But every time the lion came near, the oxen turned their tails to one another. So, whichever way the lion came, one of the oxen met him with its horns.
But one day, the oxen quarreled among themselves. And each one went to the field alone.
The lion attacked them one by one, and easily killed all four."
Aesop's Fable

Moral: "United we stand, divided we fall."

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
23. I watched to 5:00 minutes...........
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Fri Jun 22, 2012, 12:51 AM - Edit history (1)

I really wanted to punch this teabagger in the face. How the Obama proponent held back is beyond me.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
24. Here's the part these Teabaggers don't want to know.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jun 2012

Most of the money was already budgeted for programs held over from the Bush years.

Here is where the money is going. Just the Costs 2009 to 2012:

Bush: $194-billion = Bush Medicare Part-D =Drug = $60.8/yr
Bush: $175.2-billion = Bush Meicare Advantage = $54.9/yr
Bush: $612.8-billion = Iraq War Direct Spending = $190/year - (reduced this year).
Bush: $312.9-billion = Iraq War Indirect Spending = $98/year
Bush: $724.5-billion = Bush Recession Caused Drop in taxes = $227/year
Bush: $954.3-billion = Bush Tax Cuts = $299/yr
Bush: $1,366-billion = Interest on Bush Debt = $428/yr
Bush: $89.3-billion = 2005 Energy Policy Act Coal/Oil/Nuke subsides = $28/yr

Total Costs Just during 2009 to 2012: $4.429-Trillion

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/nancy-pelosi-obama-debt-crisis_n_1613553.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
26. I wish that someone smarter than me and with a little more time would put together a fact sheet like
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:04 PM
Jun 2012

this to respond to all of the talking points, including links to the source of proof for each point so I could just hand it to guys like this and dare them to read it and check the links to learn the actual truth. Then I could walk away before their heads would explode. That guy took a foolish risk doing what he did.
As an aside, I am sure the United Steelworkers of America are real proud (not) of their member at the end who felt it necessary to admit that he is working to put himself out of a job. Maybe he could partner with "Hot Head" and sell Chinese Romney crap when that day comes!

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
29. This guy is so far gone; a goner is my name for them
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jun 2012

that if you handed him this he would throw it away or challenge the facts. We must marginalize and crush them in November to maybe???wake them up.

Red Knight

(704 posts)
25. "The Divide Is Coming"
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

"We have such an ideological civil war coming. And you gave up your God and your guns."

Yep. That's kind of what's happening. The right is going to take control or go to war trying. They'll burn it all down if they have to and like this guy sort of hinted at: They've got the guns.

New civil war. This is more messy because it isn't about a single great issue and it isn't easily drawn by borders. I live in a blue city in a red county.

The the powerful push this because division is great for them. The last thing they want is for that anger directed where it belongs.

The right is not angry at corporate overlords and corrupt money hungry politicians.

They have been convinced that their greatest threat is from the left---period.

Propaganda is a powerful tool.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
27. the Tea Party is in favor of more restrictions on the H1B Visas?
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jun 2012

I seriously doubt that. Just like with the TARP bailout, these people don't know what their masters (the Koch Brothers) intentions are.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
39. I don't doubt individual TPers are for restrictions...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:23 AM
Jun 2012

...and since "they are the party" they write that onto the whole thing. But that's something the "tea party politicians" can conveniently not do if they get power, since the money guys don't want that.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
31. Is it time
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jun 2012

to just hand over the Confederacy and let them stew in their own juices? Half of them need heavy medication or straightjackets. Guns, maybe not.
I would like for them all to attend a hard liquor and hand gun night at their local bar.

 

less lee

(117 posts)
33. This is pure evidence that the tea party..
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jun 2012

is over. Charlie Manson has a bigger turn out for his birthday party! Just remember this:
The Tea Party has been occupied!

JHB

(37,161 posts)
38. "What's your vision for the country?"
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:18 AM
Jun 2012

My thought on answering that is :

"Why don't you tell me what you imagine my vision is? That'll save both of us some time."

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
40. if it really takes 4 of these fools to argue with EACH of us,
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 07:52 AM
Jun 2012

doesn't that mean that eventually, we will win by attrition lol?

JHB

(37,161 posts)
41. Attrition takes time...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 08:01 AM
Jun 2012

...and a lot of damage can be done in that time. And sometimes damage can't be undone.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
43. One thing to keep in mind: THIS is part of what fuels the TPers
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:50 AM
Jun 2012

Anger over some very legitimate issues (like the visa issue) twined together with crap (like birtherism) and shot out at Democrats in general, liberals in particular, and Obama specifically.

I noticed this back when they were having their first big rallies too: complaining how their taxes went up, even though federal income tax rates had dropped. Yes, some were saying that on bullshit and delusion, but for others if you dug in a little it was rises in state and local taxes that were pushing up their overall tax bills. But the outlet that was made most easily available to protest higher taxes pointed all that anger at the federal level.

Not to say that all the TPers are "salvagable", plenty are too far gone for that, and some of the other "threads in the twine"are pure racism, religious bigoty, and the whole host of RW pathologies. But some of them are not necessarily completely lost, and splitting those people off from the "goners" (as someone above dubbed them) is something we have to keep trying. Preferably to bring them on board, and if not because "divide and conquer" works both ways.

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