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Sanders: "Of course she (Hillary) doesn't bear responsibility for Iraqi war deaths (Original Post) stevenleser Apr 2016 OP
There are so many funny things about this. Not least of which is that this is what I have been stevenleser Apr 2016 #1
I hold her accountable for the deaths in Iraq WDIM Apr 2016 #2
That's nice. Sanders disagrees and he is right. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #5
Notice how you accept the "rightness" of something based on your own prejudice? Android3.14 Apr 2016 #6
I think we all notice. Probably not Steve, though. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #15
This Citizen Holds HRC Responsible For The Innocent Death Of Iraqi And American Citizens cantbeserious Apr 2016 #3
He's being politic. Everyone who voted for the war bears the responsibility for it Scootaloo Apr 2016 #4
Charlie Rose playing dumb... Helen Borg Apr 2016 #7
Plain Dumb Marty McGraw Apr 2016 #8
Yes! swilton Apr 2016 #9
I used to like Charlie Rose... Like 15 years ago... Helen Borg Apr 2016 #12
He's being a complete asshole. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #16
When does a Rose smell like a turd? shadowmayor Apr 2016 #10
Thank you, Steven! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #11
She is unqualified Geronimoe Apr 2016 #13
I quit watching Charlie Rose when I stopped watching PBS years ago. Clinton is ish of the hammer Apr 2016 #14
This is why I am boycotting the MSM in its entirety. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #17
How long has Rose Thespian2 Apr 2016 #18
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
1. There are so many funny things about this. Not least of which is that this is what I have been
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

saying for years not just about Hillary but about all Democrats who voted for IWR.

There is one and only one group responsible for Iraqi war deaths and that is the Bush administration. I've said that in several articles and the same folks who are supporting Bernie Sanders and who have criticized me for saying it, now have to deal with Bernie Sanders agreeing with me on this.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
2. I hold her accountable for the deaths in Iraq
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016

Along with everybody else that voted for that war of aggression.

I hold her accountable for the deaths and chaos in Libya. I hold her accountable for the deaths and chaos in Syria.

Her foreign policy is a disaster for every country it touches.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
6. Notice how you accept the "rightness" of something based on your own prejudice?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:33 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is wrong, except when he is saying something nice about Clinton.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
8. Plain Dumb
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016

Absolutely!

I liked Bill Moyers & Charles Osgood many times over when it comes to the long standing older Duffs (Hosts).

Sanders should pull a reverse on the media networks and charge them if they wish him to appear on their channels. Show them how out-dated their medium for heralding the 'so-called' news is.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
9. Yes!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

So true....Couldn't recommend this because of his inane and biased badgering....you would think he was a DA.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
12. I used to like Charlie Rose... Like 15 years ago...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:40 PM
Apr 2016

But in this interview he is pathetic. Righto, Sanders is supposed to take Clinton's slandering without correcting the record and fighting back? What kind of an idiot would be so naive? He is just another establishment asshole.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
10. When does a Rose smell like a turd?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:47 PM
Apr 2016

When it's a Charlie Rose. How many goddamned times did Thomas Friedman come on his show to expound the bullshit notion that we were just six months (1 Friedman unit) away from turning the war in Iraq around? Or that the stupid Surge was successful? And doesn't Charlie spend the holidays with the Clintons and Kissinger? If so, Charlie can "suck on this" as Friedman said we should tell the Iraqi people when we were kicking in their doors and rounding up their people. During my "tour" in Abu Ghraib in 2005 it was apparent that well over 75% of the detainees were completely innocent and had merely been caught in the neighborhood sweeps we conducted. Some say it was more like 95%. As the brass loved to tell us, "Fuck 'em, they're just Iraqis".

I want to know if Rose thinks he's partly responsible for the deaths in Iraq? I definitely think so.

What the hell did the people of Iraq ever do to us??? We've been bombing and burning and killing them for 25 years now. When will it be enough?

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
11. Thank you, Steven!
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

Bush-Cheney. Period.

Thanks for posting this. I added those Responders who had nothing worth while saying to my Ignore List.

Life is much more pleasant as a result.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
13. She is unqualified
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:33 PM - Edit history (2)

In part because of her support for Bush, Cheney rush to war with Iraq. It is not just the death of Iraqis but also the unnecessaray death, and injury to American soldiers.

And no Charlie, she doesn't have all that much experience. She has less executive experience than any State Governor or Mayor of a medium size city.

Unfortunately, there is a sense of elitism when one reaches a certain level, such that a person should be rewarded to higher office even after he or she showed incredibly poor judgement.

If you don't hold Hillary responsible for her votes, then you can't give Bernie credit for being right on Iraq. Charlie's argument would have us re-electing Bush and Cheney. Most experience, and no accountability for what they did in office.


ish of the hammer

(444 posts)
14. I quit watching Charlie Rose when I stopped watching PBS years ago. Clinton is
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 07:17 PM
Apr 2016

responsible for the ongoing deaths in Libya and Honduras. she is responsible for the
murder of Berta Caceres. neocon oligarchs do what they do and Rose stinks!

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