MUST WATCH: Bill Clinton SHUTS DOWN Black Lives Matter Protesters defends "SuperPredators"

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

(crossposted from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511673293)

[phazed0]

2. Blow it out yer ass, Bill. nt

[Dustlawyer]

16. If you had narrowly drafted the laws to get the serious, dangerous criminals off the streets,

but left the users and pot smokers off of the hook it would have been ok. Instead you gave 3 strikes so a minor possession plea or conviction could put them away for a long time!

You my friend are the one being disingenuous. Only a fraction put away for murdering AA or others, the vast majority didnt come close to deserving what they got!

[LiberalArkie]

17. And this week a man stealing $31 worth of candy bars going away under 3 strikes.

[phazed0]

18. Perfect! +1 nt

[grasswire]

26. and never forget that man's custody..

..costs taxpayers $35,000/year at minimum.

For $31 in candy bars.

[phazed0]

29. It's an insane, backwards travesty.

I just want to scream at the stupidity sometimes.

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. Private for profit prisons....the reason for three strikes.

[jwirr]

32. And likewise if his welfare "reform" had recognized exceptions

many would not have been hurt. Lord, he is senile - he truly does not recognize what he has done.

[Dustlawyer]

70. I don't think he is senile, I think he is trying to defend his record, he doesn't care

the effect it has except how it affects he and his wife.

[Delver Rootnose]

3. Well considering Hillary's .....

....comments at the time were in relation to juvenile violence, like early teens, bill's comments about leadership of gangs does not follow. And the welfare reforms did not lower poverty during his administration the overall tech bubble economy did that. The reforms only started to hurt when they were needed most. They are still hurting in places that don't have a waiver now where single men, but not women, only get 3 months snap benifiets unless involved in retraining programs that might not be available or working I think 20 hours a week.

[Delver Rootnose]

4. Next thing he is going to do.....

...is defend nafta.

[Ferd Berfel]

12. I've already had Hillary people do that here

`and GMOs and Monsanto and TPP and her Iraq vote

Democrats ?

Now I haven't SAID they aren't Democrats, I just question whether they are or not. .

[phazed0]

19. Agreed...

... all of the sudden "Democrat" issues that have been on this board for years, no longer apply. How convenient.

[Ferd Berfel]

23. Hartmann talks about taking back the Dem PArty from the inside by

showing up at the local Democratic party HQ because that's what the Teabaggers did to the Republican party.

I have to wonder if the disenfranchised republicans came over and did exactly that to the Democratic Party.

[passiveporcupine]

45. Let me ask you something Ferd

Do you like being called a Conservative troll? I was called a Trump troll recently, just for expressing a view that a Hillary supporter didn't like. Do you think that's cool? Because I don't.

I wish you would think about that before continuing to call out other members for what they say.

Remember that old saying...attack the message, not the messenger?

[840high]

58. They are hypocrites.

[jalan48]

5. Whoa, and under the bus BLM goes.

[Dragonfli]

15. IMO they are an apolitical group that needs desperately to be heard by all candidates, but much more

than that, it NEEDS to be understood that there is a very real crises with lives of all ages being taken every day, often as casually as one might light a cigarette,

Seldom (fuck that almost always) without charges placed against the murderers enabling, in fact encouraging other murderers to not only continue killing, but celebrating paid vacations (yeah I've seen that as have others here on COP online discussion sites, really, cold and happy like that) I know some here have seen such shit because I've followed links from this site

Now I don't trust or like cops and never did they fucking beat me near to death when I was sixteen just for shits and giggles, I likely never will trust or like them because of what some do or have done and have to force myself to realize some or maybe many for all I know are decent people (I try real hard to think no group is monolithic), I can't really say because I would never call them and avoid them whenever I can, but sometimes they follow me for just being a bit brown, and black is worse to them.

How many are good and how many are bad others with more experience, say from cop families can decide that.

Buy no one needs to be just brushing them off like that, the movement is a real life emergency thing, what I do know is that the only way to treat the ones that break the law as the criminals they are is to not let that shit be charged and prosecuted on anything lower than a federal level, because they hang out with and are friends with (literally) the DAs and the prosecutors that deal with them now. No shit, that's how it works.

What anyone in power or near the ears of power or potential power LIKE BILL. needs to do is not only listen but to assure them, and I don't mean pretend to, that they will make sure laws are fucking passed that puts cop criminals in fed hands not friend hands, or just shut the fuck up and let them get the word out with your goddamn mike to those that will.

That fed thing is just an idea, but any idea that will make it so they treat cop murderers like other murderers is good if it works.

I don't talk about this much because, I am not BLM and they know what the need to do more than me, but fluffing them off is not cool. If he didn't know how to fix the shit he should have just given up his mike for ten minutes so they could get the word out to the power that needs to hear them and fix this shit, he's a multimillionaire, he could afford to give up ten minutes of his time rather than tell them how great he made shit for them in his mind.

[jalan48]

34. Thank you. That's some heavy stuff.

[Dragonfli]

46. Sorry I swore so much, but I was angry, I live in a mixed largely black neighborhood and saw a

13 year old kid get beat down pretty badly by three cops with those stick things they use and hauled off a couple days ago, he is a neighbors kid and a polite young boy, that as far as I could tell coming out of my house as it was happening having heard the screams, and according to other neighbors already outside, was just playing football in the street with a couple other neighbor children. An account I believe because they do just that on a regular basis. sometimes just two playing catch or makeshift small teams. We live on a dead end street so they only sometimes have to back off to the sidewalk as a car passes to park down street.

It bothered me, it upset me very much, I'm an old guy but when I hear a child screaming, my instinct is to run to them and protect them, but you can't protect them from cops, only watch helplessly on the side, shaking, or least I was shaking, then hugging his mom.

Sorry I puked my emotions all over the page. I could nave said my pierce in a more respectful way to those that read here.

Such is the price you pay living on the east side of Buffalo, worse stuff happens around here all the time, but this kid I know and it happened right in front ff me.

[HeartoftheMidwest]

51. Testify.

People need to hear the truth of what is happening in the streets and the cities, and not have it filtered through the media, who often distort facts in order to protect the Establishment's viewpoint. ( "This cop beating on a kid looks bad, but the kid MUST've had it coming...." ) Just speak the truth....it's all powerful.

[Dont call me Shirley]

55. The 13 YO...

Dragonfli, I'm sorry you had to witness such ugly abuse of power

[jalan48]

62. Not at all. It's hard to know what is going on around us unless we hear about it.

Thank you for sharing.

[mhatrw]

6. It worked with Sister Souljah!

Too bad for the Clintons that this is 2016.

[LS_Editor]

7. The Clintons want Bernie out, because they know the longer the process

is drawn out the worse they will appear. And Bernie may just be able to use that to take it from Hillary.

[Dont call me Shirley]

8. The real Superpredators are those at the cia who flooded these neighborhoods with drugs and

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guns. The real Superpredators are the bankers who refused to invest in these communities creating desperation and hopelessness. The real Superpredtors are the Boards of Education who refused to educate these children so they could come out of school well educated and skilled. The real Superpredators are the for-profit prison corps who conspired to put these children in prison for life!

STFU Bill!

[Ferd Berfel]

13. The Realy Superpredators are the people paying for their Speeches

[HeartoftheMidwest]

52. I'm sure you meant...

...CIA, under the Elder Bush's tenure, was it?? Or while he was Vice President ( actually he WAS President, just as Cheney was President; that's the beauty of having incompetent men as puppets! )

[Dont call me Shirley]

54. Edited the auto-correct spelling error. Actually the War on Drugs was started under Nixon

specifically to imprison blacks and hippies. Poppy put it on steroids.

[Geronimoe]

9. Looks like campaign was irrational exhuberance

where is he is talking, in a subway?

Towards the end of Bill's two terms, much of the economy went bust and the boom was a matter of CEO's cooking the books, like Enron and the Dot.com bomb. This is why they enacted Sarbanes-Oxley in 2002.

[jwirr]

35. Don't forget all the money out of the Social Security Fund

that he used to prop up his failure.

[86derps]

10. What!!

So if he is being accurate about kids on crack going and killing other blacks then his actions make little sense. Instead of then passing crazy incarceration laws under the guise of the war on drugs which targeted a whole race, African Americans. Why not attempt to educate drug users and treat drug addiction.

And don't call them super predators, call them drug users!!! The Clinton's are being dishonest again.

[JDPriestly]

11. Bill seemed OK compared to Reagan and George H.W. Bush, but after Obama, we deserve better

than another Clinton.

We need and deserve Bernie.

Bernie understands what Black Lives Matter is about.

Bernie is the candidate for 2016.

Bill just makes things worse.

[elmac]

14. ^^^ what JDPriestly said ^^^

[debunction.junction]

20. Yes, Bill "seemed" OK all the while selling us down the river to the highest bidder.

Yes, Bill just makes things worse. Keep right on talking Bill.

[Jitter65]

24. Just more ill-informed trash talk. It doesn't feel good to have family members killed in drive-by'

shootings or being mugged and hospitalized on the way home from he store. It's easy to sit here and snipe about what you "think" or been "told" happened. It's much more difficult when you sadly have to remember what happened.

[phazed0]

27. And somehow you don't know the results of said crime bills, etc...

Talk about not remembering what happened.

By all means, please show us some empirical evidence defending your views!

[JDPriestly]

31. As some have pointed out here, the crimes you describe should have been prevented.

I was working for a non-profit in a very depressed area of Los Angeles in part of that time, so I know what you are talking about. But the closing down of the War on Poverty that occurred prior to the Clinton administration had a lot to do with the crime increase under Reagan and the first Bush as well as under Clinton.

It's very complicated. I totally sympathize with your statement. But just allowing police officers to treat so many young people like criminals simply because of the color of their skin is not the answer. It will not bring back the victims of crime. We need a justice system that treats people with dignity.

And above all, we need a rehabilitative prison system especially in our juvenile halls.

Thanks for your reply. It is much more difficult than we can express on the internet.

[debunction.junction]

37. It is a travesty when anyone gets killed in a drive-by shooting, let alone a family member.

I am very sorry for that. But, what may have appeared to be good at the time has proven to be a disaster over time. Sending someone to prison for possessing a joint, or for shoplifting a loaf of bread because it was a third strike is also a travesty.

What I think is what I think, and I have not been told anything. You have your opinion, I have mine.

[AlbertCat]

53. what may have appeared to be good at the time

To republicans!

I find it so "lump 'em all together" and anti-individual. Every crime is a different situation. Only in Repug-Land does one just go to jail regardless of the situation..... until Bill!

Besides, it was a private prison bonanza!

[debunction.junction]

60. I am in total agreement with you.

If I made it seem like I thought it was a good at the time, I misspoke. I never thought it was good. I left out the words "to many."

Plus, I am against "Privatize" it all it's forms. Private prisons, OMG! They don't care about guilt or innocence, as long as they fill beds.

[Duval]

36. I'm with you!!

[Jitter65]

21. He didn't "shut them down. He gave them some facts they probably never heard or read before.

If they would listen they might understand more about what he was trying to do at that time when so many of our own neighborhoods were being almost held hostage by thugs.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

22. There it is... That was the one word Bill was missing in his rant...

[SheenaR]

25. Yeah

BLM must not read or know facts... That's the ticket...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. Yeah, yeah, yeah,...we've all seen "Demolition Man".

[AllyCat]

42. He told them what was what. He's not listening. He's not helping

But he sure is good at telling black people what they need.

Shut up Bill. Just shut up.

[grasswire]

43. Aha!! Billsplaining!!

Damn thug kids. Ignorant young people!

[stupidicus]

47. well, if blaming the "ignorant youngins" is the best you can do

it's no small wonder you support the thirdway posterboy

[Jitter65]

63. "Ignorant young's" are your words, not mine. nt

[stupidicus]

64. a perfectly reasonable and accurate deconstruction of your turd

the idea that they don't have a thorough understanding/command of the relevant facts in the matter is not only insulting to them but also an indicator of either your intellectual heft or integrity

[Dont call me Shirley]

57. They needed resources, education, healthy food instead they got guns, drugs and alcohol.

It was a set up, jitter! A set up to destroy minority and poor communities! A set up by the people in the highest of high places!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

28. If a Republican said this it would be all over the news.

[840high]

61. I did find it on some sites.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

69. If it ain't on the boob tube it didn't happen.

[bjo59]

33. Wow. Just wow.

And this guy and his wife are the power within the Democratic Party. Tragic joke.

[geardaddy]

39. Why does he talk about them instead talking to them? n/t

[SoLeftIAmRight]

40. go bill go

show your true colors

[AllyCat]

41. He doesn't get it, does he?

There is no defending what he just said there. Horrible.

[aintitfunny]

44. Grumpy Old Man "Get outta my yard."

Wow.

[KoKo]

65. "You people Screaming!"

Sexism to the Protesters over and over in the Long "YT" clip of Bill's Speech! BLM's Screaming?

[ericson00]

48. Bill Clinton is a party hero and did a great job

n/t

[TM99]

56. Bill Clinton

revealed the racism that was present in the 2008 campaign against Obama and is still very much a part of him today.

He apologized for the Crime Bill and then defended it today. He spoke down to the activists as if they were ignorant children instead of persecuted adults seeking redress.

That you think he did a great job really doesn't speak well for you.

[sulphurdunn]

49. Both the Clintons

have become caricatures of themselves.

[AlbertCat]

50. Yes, I saw that...

He basically spewed out the stereotype like no one would notice.

Is he gonna talk about welfare queens next?

[KoKo]

59. Clinton Throws Joe Biden "Under the Bus!"

Must be a lot of Fear There.. Pushback against a Brokered Dem Convention?

And, not only Biden... he also throws "Screaming BLM Protesters" UTB...in sexist and seemingly racist comments in the Long Version of this "YT" of his Speech!

[demwing]

66. no no no, its not BLM, it's BLTSHM

"Black Lives That Support Hillary Matter"

[Cheese Sandwich]

67. This is a mean dude

Some people can't take criticism.

[Sunsky]

68. He's correct

I said the same thing in one of my previous posts. Gang members are predators, the lowest of the low and that goes for ANY gang member regardless of race or ethnicity- black, white or Hispanic. They're destroying their communities. The good citizens who are directly affected by these parasites know that what he's saying here and what Sec. Clinton said is the truth. I find the defense of gang members appalling I'm happy someone is publicly debunking the false narrative that Sec. Clinton called AA super predators.

Makes no sense piling on because this is my view and the view of many in my community. I admire BLM for the work they have done but they do not speak for every AA and they aren't mistake free either. This time they got it wrong in my opinion.