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The NY Daily News Hit Piece on Bernie EXPOSED! (Original Post) thomhartmann Apr 2016 OP
These negative tactics of hers are being done way to early! Her numbers are going down! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #1
Mirror image of her attacks on that kenyan muslin fellow. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #62
Except that the corporate media.... daleanime Apr 2016 #77
MAybe someone like John Oliver Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #141
It's been said before, but how sad is it.... daleanime Apr 2016 #143
YEah Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #147
Very very good point. truedelphi Apr 2016 #154
Didn't we all.... daleanime Apr 2016 #158
Sanders is exposing himself: he babbled like Sara Plain in that interview lewebley3 Apr 2016 #119
You are not telling the truth ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #120
Lewebley Wibly Apr 2016 #123
thanks ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #133
It is not a valid or smart strategy to ignore trolls like Lewebley: Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2016 #134
I do not understand why he has not been banned yet LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #148
Trolls that are on Clinton's side are immune. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #178
He may have been talking above your head Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #142
Nothing is nuanced about the interview: Sander has never been held to account for his lewebley3 Apr 2016 #144
That's funny greiner3 Apr 2016 #162
I have a feeling you do too,in the park,in a trench coat. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #155
...... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #164
This is what we call a lewebley ............... misrepresentation of the truth. I guess it must rhett o rick Apr 2016 #173
Your a bullshitter....birds of a feather Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #190
As well they should! Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #130
Hartman, another shill for Bernie. yeah, nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #172
smells like fear, panic, & hopemountain Apr 2016 #184
Same there as here JackInGreen Apr 2016 #2
Coordinated Brock super PAC talking points, David Brock's Big Lie strategy is still in play Dragonfli Apr 2016 #6
Sanders was exposed like Trump for an empty suit : and he has never been honest lewebley3 Apr 2016 #18
You're still here? OK, you are always good for a laugh and unique word salads please, continue nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #24
It's like refrigerator poetry! frylock Apr 2016 #39
colonic, too, rather than semi-colonic. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #65
Back in the early 90s, I had a DOS program that I ran on an old 8088. bvar22 Apr 2016 #136
Wow, I wrote something similar in basic on my old 8086 Machine Dragonfli Apr 2016 #139
Most interesting... there's a hidden post in this thread with the most bizarre syntax and usage... klook Apr 2016 #204
I keep this one beltanefauve Apr 2016 #150
Where are you playing next week? Fuddnik Apr 2016 #27
That's the funniest thing I've read today! Duval Apr 2016 #89
Who do you think you're helping? Wibly Apr 2016 #127
Is that supposed to be some sort of RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #128
Whether this is a lie or not, this does not meet the definition of the "Big Lie" ToxMarz Apr 2016 #35
I thing he includes the big part quite often and so I disagree. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #45
Right. Oh the trumpets do sound. Lots of noise. But very few are falling for it. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #167
yes. the big lie will hopemountain Apr 2016 #186
This is why Net Neutrality is Enemy #1 for the corporate welfare state. klook Apr 2016 #202
^^+1k^^ nt hopemountain Apr 2016 #187
All coordinated with the Clinton talking points and "disqualify" strategy. FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #3
No.strategy: Sanders exposed himself for the fraud he has always been lewebley3 Apr 2016 #21
Spelling test failed...again Fuddnik Apr 2016 #25
Wow, up to eight hides. eggplant Apr 2016 #71
Sanders people do run things on this board : lewebley3 Apr 2016 #76
Except for that pesky fact that Skinner is an avowed Hillary supporter. eggplant Apr 2016 #125
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #145
So funny. Sanders voter & lifelong Democrat like my family for 100+ years. Try more. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #146
Jeb Bush and Antonin Scalia put George W. Bush in office; Diebold kept him there in 2004. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #149
I remember the bashing of Gore form Sanders voters: They were to good for lewebley3 Apr 2016 #151
Sorry, no more replies for you. eggplant Apr 2016 #157
What a mind!!! You remember things that never happened!!!! Fuddnik Apr 2016 #181
Do any Sanders supporters have 8 hides? nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #174
For Pete's sake....criticize Bernie all you want, but don't use lies to do it. Punkingal Apr 2016 #88
Sanders. does lie: the honesty thing is just propaganda from his campaign. : It was not true lewebley3 Apr 2016 #113
There is something wrong with you. Punkingal Apr 2016 #131
It's something alright. Stryder Apr 2016 #161
It seems to be some kind of gibberish program. anothergreenbus Apr 2016 #176
Hillary is running short on money, and they outsourced these guys to overseas telemarketers. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #182
We are the goon squad & we're coming to town..beeb beeb... AlbertCat Apr 2016 #97
Hi beeb - I have to 840high Apr 2016 #108
I just came here to post this vid, listening to it as I type, 5 mins in. Watch it DUers! RiverLover Apr 2016 #4
Thank you for the video Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #5
Keep it up Hillary... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #7
Yes Hillary - steady as she goes! Plucketeer Apr 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #103
Maybe he could just not answer their questions like a moron?? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #8
Just like a good Republican padfun Apr 2016 #9
Nope. Also too. Bernie is not a Democrat Gomez163 Apr 2016 #10
Yes he is. padfun Apr 2016 #13
He has not joined the party Gomez163 Apr 2016 #17
What does it take to join the party other than checking a box on a form? frylock Apr 2016 #42
What do you have to do to sus453 Apr 2016 #43
you forgot the triple secret password, the secret handshake ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #67
Ahh yes, sus453 Apr 2016 #81
No, that one requires massive donations to a foundation. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #84
... 840high Apr 2016 #109
Bull puckies. You don't know what you are talking about. merrily Apr 2016 #104
There's labels, and there's policies. Rilesome Apr 2016 #122
Last I checked, he is in every Democratic primary--your statement is bullshit! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #198
Bernie isn't a Third Way "New Democrat". mwooldri Apr 2016 #64
Another absolutely HUGE lie, Bernie has always caucused with the Democrats! Bernie is a Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #165
He is a better Democrat than Clinton. Remember when Bush summoned her and she gladly rhett o rick Apr 2016 #179
And I'm calling Bernie a moron, because Gomez163 Apr 2016 #12
Hillary answers lots of her question like a moron padfun Apr 2016 #14
So now technically you're a republican for calling Gomez163 Apr 2016 #15
Hillary is NOT a progressive padfun Apr 2016 #29
Absolutely she is. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #52
Absolutely she is. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #102
Progressive compared to... Herself. dchill Apr 2016 #170
OK I usually never use this smiley but its appropriate LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #156
Hillary? Progressive??? Who's the moron now, Gomez! hint: look in the mirror. FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #135
Hillary would have blabbered on and on and on filibustering the question. frylock Apr 2016 #47
Hillary couldn't answer the questions. dogman Apr 2016 #78
Hillary is a crook. Period. 840high Apr 2016 #110
Hil is no-party. disndat Apr 2016 #114
Spelling: it's moran! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #166
Ace An Interview? PCPrincess Apr 2016 #185
If Hillary is so smart and honest have her release the transcripts of her speeches to the Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #197
Agreed: Sanders didn't know how to break up banks and thats his central issue lewebley3 Apr 2016 #28
Except that he actually does and explained it in the interview me b zola Apr 2016 #57
Barney Frank: said Sanders doesn't have clue when he talks about the banks lewebley3 Apr 2016 #59
Still does not make it true. me b zola Apr 2016 #69
Sorry. Sanders was exposed he doesn't understand Dodd Frank: Frank says doesn't lewebley3 Apr 2016 #94
Frank is not unbiased, since he has endorsed Sanders' opponent. Qutzupalotl Apr 2016 #159
Maybe he could just not answer their questions like a moron?? AlbertCat Apr 2016 #99
They quote him in full & in context - so of course it has to be a "hit piece". baldguy Apr 2016 #11
They can't conceive their hero has feet of clay. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #16
And when is the last time Hillary sus453 Apr 2016 #46
She talks directly to the voters not to the press swine Gomez163 Apr 2016 #54
as in, not people who might ask and perchance sus453 Apr 2016 #60
The same press you are using... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #75
Voters you say? TM99 Apr 2016 #137
All the experts agreed with what he said. It was just the idiots that thought he stumbled. Did rhett o rick Apr 2016 #175
Juan González Was at Bernie Sanders' NY Daily News Editorial Board Meeting. What Really Happened? deutsey Apr 2016 #19
Failed to answer basic questions one his central promise to break up lewebley3 Apr 2016 #32
I trust Gonzalez and his account... deutsey Apr 2016 #37
Your presence here is all the proof anyone needs of the state of the Clinton campaign concreteblue Apr 2016 #82
"...we all new...."?? Except, of course, for all . . . Petrushka Apr 2016 #193
We watched that. Thanks!! Duval Apr 2016 #90
thank you Thom florida08 Apr 2016 #20
The Daily News is a suburban Long Island, i.e., Republican, news outlet. closeupready Apr 2016 #22
Not unlike the Southern states, Hillary Supporter now loves them some NYDN. frylock Apr 2016 #50
When I was growing up in NY elljay Apr 2016 #111
In addition, I've noticed over the last year or so they are aping the Daily Mail, closeupready Apr 2016 #112
Daily News has a GREAT comic section! dorkzilla Apr 2016 #160
Very hard to find a way Thespian2 Apr 2016 #23
Sanders fraudulent lies about the just got up with him: he sounded like Plain lewebley3 Apr 2016 #33
Your posts are painful to read on so many levels. frylock Apr 2016 #51
Your post are the same for me: but like Sanders you are about you lewebley3 Apr 2016 #55
Like I said... frylock Apr 2016 #58
It's like talking to a really poorly constructed AI. Getting funnier all the time. navarth Apr 2016 #92
This one doesn't seem to be learning though. frylock Apr 2016 #95
I wish these trolls would try harder. Bernie needs the practice for the GE. navarth Apr 2016 #106
Unfortunately it's an actual living being. svpadgham Apr 2016 #194
yes, he's a plain talker... not sure what ABC news interview you're talking about Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #98
it shows the power of the media to swiftboat. k and r. bbgrunt Apr 2016 #26
Were it not for the internet Plucketeer Apr 2016 #38
Her and the msm Rilesome Apr 2016 #126
Maybe this chap should be running instead of Bernie? Amimnoch Apr 2016 #31
Maybe you missed it Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #36
I listened to him read it. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #40
Does it have to be "exciting?" Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #74
Sanders couldn't explain any rhing about the banks he supposed to know everything about lewebley3 Apr 2016 #41
Rhings are on the endangered species list. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #68
The more Hi11ary and her chervilant Apr 2016 #34
Hillary is known to everyone: its Sanders fraud that is being exposed: lewebley3 Apr 2016 #48
She sure is. frylock Apr 2016 #53
and what would that "fraud" be? sus453 Apr 2016 #63
Meth is a terrible drug. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #66
Fraudulentt promises catching up on Sanders: is hard! lewebley3 Apr 2016 #73
Symptoms of meth include poor spelling, overusage of hyperbole Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #86
Sanders was not. vetted:so now things are coming out lewebley3 Apr 2016 #91
Other symptoms include shaky grasp of reality. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #116
I'm laughing harder than I should d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #138
really the fact that the NYDN's owner Mort Zuckerman has quite lavishly lined Clinton's war chest azurnoir Apr 2016 #44
Here it is in a graphic NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #49
knr sus453 Apr 2016 #61
Shame. You still used too many big words. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #70
Many of their words are scripted anyway so NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #72
that cover is shameful Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #101
...! KoKo Apr 2016 #206
Quelle surprise! Another dishonest talking point from the Clinton campaign. (N/T) Old Crow Apr 2016 #56
As I said many times, increased media attention is a mixed blessing. pnwmom Apr 2016 #79
If Bernie messes up, then negative attention is fair. But if it's manufactured berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #118
Most of the attacks against HRC have been manufactured. The Rethugs have targeted pnwmom Apr 2016 #153
Watching the first part, you could understand where her dishonesty kicked in nolabels Apr 2016 #87
THANK YOU THOM HARTMANN!!!!! KPN Apr 2016 #80
He's a Bernie shill because he is rich and comfortable Gomez163 Apr 2016 #117
Lol! KPN Apr 2016 #140
Clinton gets the support of those earning more than $100K/year n/t eridani Apr 2016 #200
Looks like you about doubled your post count in this thread. beerandjesus Apr 2016 #203
The irony EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #83
Bernie Sanders a formal Democrat since 2015, but he caucused before then only with the Dems and was Akamai Apr 2016 #85
KnR nt chknltl Apr 2016 #93
the media elites are proud of themselves for knocking off Trump, now they are going Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #96
It was not a hit piece - it was a really in depth conversation covering many topics oberliner Apr 2016 #100
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #105
This Citizen Has Lost All Respect For HRC cantbeserious Apr 2016 #107
I'm glad to see this. polly7 Apr 2016 #115
K and R nt Rebkeh Apr 2016 #121
She makes me fucking sick with this shit lastone Apr 2016 #124
You just keep spinning there, it's doing wonders for your in the popular vote synergie Apr 2016 #129
While we are talking about surrogates rynestonecowboy Apr 2016 #196
Kick imagine2015 Apr 2016 #132
Nothing to expose. We heard Sanders taped words for ourselves. Sanders was clueless. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #152
LOL. Well those that didn't understand him are clueless. The experts all agree with what rhett o rick Apr 2016 #177
Hilli is blowing it! Keep smearing Hilli, you lose! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #163
Am I the only one that thinks that Brock & Corporation do not understand social media? jillan Apr 2016 #168
What in the world is with the obsession with David Brock? NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #169
Yeah, he is a real saint. Jackilope Apr 2016 #180
Never said, or thought, he was a saint. NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #191
Thom is so rational. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #171
We need to thank the Daily News for giving Sanders the hard test. He passed with flying colors. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #183
K & R ~ hopemountain Apr 2016 #188
K&R Change has come Apr 2016 #189
nothing like the Daily News outting itself as the Readers Digest of News PatrynXX Apr 2016 #192
Let’s Dispel Once and for All With This Fiction That Sanders Doesn’t Know How to Break Up Banks Petrushka Apr 2016 #195
You do realize there is. Verbatim transcript in Bernie's own words BainsBane Apr 2016 #199
you realise EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #201
Whether you believe me or Clinton doesn't matter BainsBane Apr 2016 #207
You are a conspiracy theorist that has lost all credibility. boston bean Apr 2016 #205
wth... dana_b Apr 2016 #210
Get over it. There is nothing wrong with debunking an MSM hit piece. senz Apr 2016 #208
I'm sorry you do not like my site. William769 Apr 2016 #209

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
62. Mirror image of her attacks on that kenyan muslin fellow.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

Say what ever happened to that radical organizer and alleged law school prof anyway? Wow, were her attacks devastating.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
147. YEah
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:57 PM
Apr 2016

but John, Jon and Samantha do a great job of it!

There are no Morrow's or Cronkite's any more. Just highly paid corporate useful idiots.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
154. Very very good point.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:21 PM
Apr 2016

When I heard key RW talking heads praising Obama and saying that "He was a special case" and he would need a learning curve, way back in the Summer of 2008, I should have realized he was in the Banking class' pocket.

but I guess back then, after eight years of Bush/Cheney/Rove, I had to have hope that we would get someone who cared about the Middle Class.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
120. You are not telling the truth
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

I watched the whole thing.

Tell me what other topics he discussed. I dare you.

Wibly

(613 posts)
123. Lewebley
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

Is a troll. He never offers fact. Just bs. Ignore him.
Comparing Sanders to Palin demonstrates where he's at.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
133. thanks
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

There seem to be a whole gaggle of them of late.

I think they are here only to piss on Berning issues

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
134. It is not a valid or smart strategy to ignore trolls like Lewebley:
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

If we did that, then what he/she asserts can be taken as axiomatic whatever distortions or untruths he/she posts. Many readers (of posts) do not have the time, for whatever reasons like work, laziness, etc.; the reasons are irrelevant, to read sources and check for accuracy for all the assertions provided - instead, they may take, at face value, whatever is written in what is termed as "drive-by postings." It is necessary to question and/or refute those kinds of posts, no matter however obviously incorrect or silly.

It's labor-intensive, but considering what most people are willing to believe, it's quite necessary.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
148. I do not understand why he has not been banned yet
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

He comes on every thread that defends or promotes Bernie and spews nonsensical abusive rubbish. One liner hit pieces with no substance.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
142. He may have been talking above your head
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:25 PM
Apr 2016

but he wasn't babbling.

Sorry if it was too nuanced and in the weeds for you to grasp.



 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
144. Nothing is nuanced about the interview: Sander has never been held to account for his
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

fraudulent promises:: He has always been a lot of hot air: most
Dem's share his views: but they do something more than talk like
he did for years in the Senate.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
162. That's funny
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:25 PM
Apr 2016

Anytime I hear fraudulent promises immediately Hillary's face and voice pops in my mind

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
173. This is what we call a lewebley ............... misrepresentation of the truth. I guess it must
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

be tactic # 12 to just outright tell a falsehood. He handled the interview very well. He showed that he knew more than the idiot doing the interview and those that attacked him. I am curious, do you know the difference between the Fed and the Treasury? The Daily News didn't have a clue. Frack the dirty tricks.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
6. Coordinated Brock super PAC talking points, David Brock's Big Lie strategy is still in play
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:00 AM
Apr 2016

Neither proof nor truth matter, those posts have to do with the "BIG LIE" Strategy that Brock and the Clinton campaign are using as a large tool in their dirty tricks box.

His "internet specialists" (legal supposedly, but based on a very loose interpretation of a loop hole)
can be paid by a super-PAC to coordinate directly with her campaign if it is only involved via the internet,

Some of these employees are paid to post an all forms of social media, and often do, especially when it regards the Big Lie tactics when they are used, which rely on repetition of the lie in order to make people believe the lie even when faced with solid facts to the contrary.

Expect these lies to be continuously spread, along with other lies pushed as truth via the Big Lie tactic that they have been employing liberally. (perhaps the only true sentence involving the word liberally in connection with Clinton, a right wing candidate within the Democratic party.)

Joseph Goebbels: On the "Big Lie"

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
136. Back in the early 90s, I had a DOS program that I ran on an old 8088.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

It was an early attempt at mimicking conversation.
It wasn't very smart, and not very literate, but it was fun to play with at the time.
Something in this thread reminded me of that old program.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
139. Wow, I wrote something similar in basic on my old 8086 Machine
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

I called her JACCIE (Just Another Computer Created Intelligence Experiment)

Sort of like the Eliza program but with small talk rather than psychobabble

Had similar results. To be honest, it appeared more intelligent than something I've seen here, but stopped being fun once it ran out of my programmed by topic, but randomized, responses.

The key word recognition subroutine had to be tweaked a lot so it could guess an appropriate answer and topic and sometimes got confused (that sub, was the hardest part to write) I think I recognize some of that same bugs here.

klook

(12,155 posts)
204. Most interesting... there's a hidden post in this thread with the most bizarre syntax and usage...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:02 AM
Apr 2016

Any minute the head will start spinning around and smoking, with pneumatic fluid leaking from the seams.

It would be fun to try to write an emulator. Challenging, too - the "logic" would be hard to map out and encode.

This reminds me somewhat of writings and experiments by SF author John Sladek. He would find this -- and many other aspects of this era -- fascinating, chilling, and hilarious.

Wibly

(613 posts)
127. Who do you think you're helping?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

I'd like to know, who is it you think you're helping?
Certainly your posts are not helping Clinton. They are just making her look like Cruz or Trump, employing people to do nothing but troll pro Sanders posts.
Which leaves me wondering, is it the GOP you're trying to help?
Because, if it is, you're not helping them either. You're just making them look like they have nothing better to do than send trolls to hassle Dems.
There is one person your posts are definitely hurting though. That person would be Hillary Clinton. You're making her look petty, and her supporters look like they can't make a legit argument.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
128. Is that supposed to be some sort of
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

Distorted haiku? Well here's a tip: Don't quit your day job, your poetry sucks, and it's a bold-faced lie!

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
35. Whether this is a lie or not, this does not meet the definition of the "Big Lie"
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

Simply repeating a lie is not sufficient.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
167. Right. Oh the trumpets do sound. Lots of noise. But very few are falling for it.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

I think this is the last corral for the mainstream media when it comes to the Democratic Party.

There are still a few TV-addicted voters.

But Bernie's crowds and his numbers in recent primaries and caucuses show that the media no longer can pick favorites.

Even if Hillary wins the nomination, Bernie's successes prove that the demise of the media as we have known it is here.

We are watching all the independent news on the internet and watch only short clips from the silly news programs staged by the corporate media at most.

Reddit is popular among young people. That's where they get information.

The corporate media is singing its swan song. And no one is crying over except the overpaid pundits and newscasters.

Bye, bye NBC, ABC, CNN, Fox, CBS. We just don't trust you anymore.

Goodbye and good riddance.

Of course, you could change and become real news media that provides in-depth information on the issues, but you will probably have to succumb to disinterest and then come back to life in a different form in order to draw viewers from the new, internet-informed viewers.

klook

(12,155 posts)
202. This is why Net Neutrality is Enemy #1 for the corporate welfare state.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:50 AM
Apr 2016

...well, that and the obscene profits that come from operating publicly financed toll roads for private profit.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
3. All coordinated with the Clinton talking points and "disqualify" strategy.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

As always, it will backfire because nothing will work. I pray that Bernie wins by 15 in NY and ends the Clinton's time in politics. Get rid of this corrupt faux-royalty. ENOUGH!

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
21. No.strategy: Sanders exposed himself for the fraud he has always been
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
125. Except for that pesky fact that Skinner is an avowed Hillary supporter.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

but hey, don't let facts interrupt your always amusing posts.

Response to eggplant (Reply #125)

appalachiablue

(41,136 posts)
146. So funny. Sanders voter & lifelong Democrat like my family for 100+ years. Try more.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

We didn't vote for Nader, and no Repugs, ever.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
149. Jeb Bush and Antonin Scalia put George W. Bush in office; Diebold kept him there in 2004.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:10 PM
Apr 2016

And why wouldn't we vote for a socialist. Obama has been an amazing socialist president! At least the right-wing has called him a socialist for 8 years, so I'm all for it!!!!!

GO BERNIE!

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
151. I remember the bashing of Gore form Sanders voters: They were to good for
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:15 PM
Apr 2016

Dem party: Sanders has bashed Obama, the Dem party: and
Hillary

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
181. What a mind!!! You remember things that never happened!!!!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

This board didn't even start until after the 2000 election.

And as an aside, what kind of dressing do you put on your salad?

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
113. Sanders. does lie: the honesty thing is just propaganda from his campaign. : It was not true
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

The truth is that he cannot break up the banks or give free
collge for free to everyone: if he could he has no idea how
It could be done. He is nothing but hot air like.he was in the
Senate.

Stryder

(450 posts)
161. It's something alright.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

I hope they don't get banned.
It's almost art.
Keep wondering what sort of gibbershit
is coming next.

 

anothergreenbus

(110 posts)
176. It seems to be some kind of gibberish program.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:32 PM
Apr 2016

It's like SIRI without the charm, intelligence, humor, and information.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
97. We are the goon squad & we're coming to town..beeb beeb...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

I see lewebley is just running full speed with a sound bite and knows naught of what he speaks.

Just making up stuff, based on a single false report.

Typically Clintonite.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. I just came here to post this vid, listening to it as I type, 5 mins in. Watch it DUers!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie is just too sane. If the media actually reported reality, everyone would know just how incredible it would be to have him as our president.

The only one not bought by Moneyed Interests, he's the only one who would work for the betterment of the country & not solely the profits of BigBusine$$.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
5. Thank you for the video
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:57 AM
Apr 2016

It is so nice to hear the real words he spoke instead of clips and bits. When you hear the words it makes sense. I don't thinks during a company for making a product that works exactly as it is supposed to and is legalmsolves anything. Making them illegal is the solution!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
30. Yes Hillary - steady as she goes!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

Steer your Hindenburg of a campaign to it's goal. Careful - Careful - Lie to the left - lie to the right. Easy now - throne in sight!

Response to Plucketeer (Reply #30)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
42. What does it take to join the party other than checking a box on a form?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

Has Bernie not checked the requisite boxes on this magical form that transforms one into a Real Democrat™?

sus453

(164 posts)
43. What do you have to do to
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

"join the party"? For me, it was checking the "Democrat" box on the voter registration. Is there another test we have to go through?

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
67. you forgot the triple secret password, the secret handshake
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

slitting your hand and taking a blood oath with a Clinton staffer.

Not to mention the selling of one's soul to Wall Street.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
84. No, that one requires massive donations to a foundation.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

In exchange for having the US sell arms to the muddle east.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
104. Bull puckies. You don't know what you are talking about.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128018753

Perhaps you could describe specifically what more Sanders has to do to "join the Party."

Hint: The correct answer is nothing: He's been a Democrat in principle all along and has been one in name also since at least May 2015.

You're welcome.

Please see also: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1669356

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
64. Bernie isn't a Third Way "New Democrat".
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

If this is what a Democrat is in the USA.... oops. There's many types of Democrats in the party. Some are called DINOs because their politics resemble Republican Lite, and often vote with the Republicans. Then you have people like Bernie Sanders and Angus King... Democrats in all but name but DIABN is a horrible acronym. Bernie joined the Democratic Party but came to be elected as an Independent and thus is identified as such in the Senate.

I look at the parallels between the US Democratic Party and the UK Labour Party. Both Bill Clinton and Tony Blair are considered proponents of "Third Way" politics..... Clinton with his "New Democrats" and Blair with "New Labour". Fast forward to the 2010s.... the leader of the UK Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn. ... his politics are more like "Old Labour".

Now Mr. Bernie Sanders has not been part of the Democratic Party establishment, but it doesn't mean that he has not espoused traditional Democratic Party principles. He is in some respects America's Jeremy Corbyn.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
165. Another absolutely HUGE lie, Bernie has always caucused with the Democrats! Bernie is a
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

registered Democrat. He WAS an Independent who is now a Democrat and he has always caucused with the Democrats.

These lie-memes are almost funny.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
179. He is a better Democrat than Clinton. Remember when Bush summoned her and she gladly
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

turned her back on the Democratic Party and helped the Republicon Party. She lied before the Senate spouting the same exact lies that Bush was spouting. Now that's not a Democrat.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
12. And I'm calling Bernie a moron, because
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

he answered the questions like a moron. Hillary would have aced that interview.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
102. Absolutely she is.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

Talk about moron!

Progressive compared to.... Trump?


She still looks and acts like a Goldwater Girl.

dchill

(38,497 posts)
170. Progressive compared to... Herself.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 08:13 PM
Apr 2016

Two weeks ago. Thanks to Bernie. But don't worry, she be solid Neocon again soon!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
156. OK I usually never use this smiley but its appropriate
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016



Hillary has fooled you and many other supporters to believe she is a "progressive" in every way. Yes she is in the social arena. Gay marriage (finally), gun control, women's rights, minority rights with regards to the police. But in the big arenas, real financial reform, public financing of elections, corporate weighed trade agreements (she will be for TPP, after she was against it, after she was for it), feeding the war machine, putting SS on the table, dampening down the $15 per hour push. These are issues that affect, even if indirectly, much more deeply the plight of the middle class, and disadvantaged, and hinder the US moving forward in a progressive way.

If Obama, who we were shocked to see, is appointing Goldman Sach's execs to head his financial departments, do you think Hillary won't do the same, or even double down?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
47. Hillary would have blabbered on and on and on filibustering the question.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

Never really getting to an acceptable answer. It's what she does.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
78. Hillary couldn't answer the questions.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

She'd have to have focus groups and poll testing first. What would she do if the wind changed mid-answer?

PCPrincess

(68 posts)
185. Ace An Interview?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:01 PM
Apr 2016

Yep, we have our priorities straight. There is another person who was really good at speaking and not very good at following through - his name is Obama. I'll take the candidate who has years of ACTION to back up his/her words. Speeches aren't so important to me.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
197. If Hillary is so smart and honest have her release the transcripts of her speeches to the
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:21 AM
Apr 2016

Wall Street banks and other major corporations. The only reason not to is if she told them something different than she says in public. Oh wait, she has not and will not do so! That puts her in the same league with Willard "Mitt" Romney not releasing his taxes. What is she hiding?

We have not forgotten this, and if she does win the Primary, neither will the Republicans. Check out my sig line!

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
28. Agreed: Sanders didn't know how to break up banks and thats his central issue
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

What a fraud Sanders is: he is just a talker that I think the GOP
Helping to attack Hillary. Never trusted him

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
57. Except that he actually does and explained it in the interview
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

It was the interviewer who mixed up his own facts.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. I know that is the assumption that the Clinton campaign operates under, but pssst...your lies still don't make it true.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
69. Still does not make it true.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:16 AM
Apr 2016

The interview can be read, you know. You can read it for yourself and then you won't have to rely on anybody's word on the article.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
99. Maybe he could just not answer their questions like a moron??
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

I see the entire interview had too many big words in it for you.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
75. The same press you are using...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

to lie about Bernie not knowing what he is talking about
Seems to me more that Hillary and her supporters cannot read or understand what Bernie actually said.'

Deflection, and strawman was the typical tactics used here.

Hillary doesn't listen or talk directly to voters. She holds secret speeches for Wall Street and scorning voters for asking not to take fossil fuel money in the future.
And whatever meetings she has with the press, it's all softballs.

MSNBC is a stronghold for Hillary after they have kicked out all REAL PROGRESSIVE VOICES from there.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
137. Voters you say?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

Like the GreenPeace activist she raged at last week?

Yes, she is just a bundle of professionalism and a font of wise knowledge!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
175. All the experts agreed with what he said. It was just the idiots that thought he stumbled. Did
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:31 PM
Apr 2016

you think he stumbled?

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
19. Juan González Was at Bernie Sanders' NY Daily News Editorial Board Meeting. What Really Happened?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/6/juan_gonzalez_was_at_bernie_sanders

I, overall, thought that Bernie Sanders handled the exchange very well. And I think that there were a few places where he stumbled, and—but I was amazed at his ability to parry the questions that were thrown at him and to, basically, for instance, bluntly say, when he was asked about the Israeli-Palestinian situation, that Israel needed to withdraw from the illegal settlements in Palestinian territory, which I was astounded that he was quite frank and clear on his position, while at the same time saying he would do everything possible as president to negotiate peace and security for Israel in an overall settlement. And I think there—he did stumble a little bit when he was pressed on how he would break up some of the too-big-to-fail banks. He clearly did not have that down pat.

AMY GOODMAN: Who would have the jurisdiction.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Oh, right, who would have the jurisdiction, and—but, overall, I thought his performance was excellent.
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
32. Failed to answer basic questions one his central promise to break up
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

the bank: which we all new was a lie from the beginning:

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
37. I trust Gonzalez and his account...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016

It's more balanced than smears from those who incoherently claim they "new" something.

concreteblue

(626 posts)
82. Your presence here is all the proof anyone needs of the state of the Clinton campaign
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

If all they can afford to send to the number one Dem discussion site is somebody who would fail remedial English at the local community college then things are obviously pretty fu(&!n bad.
It IS kinda funny, in a train wreck in a three stooges clip kinda way.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
193. "...we all new...."?? Except, of course, for all . . .
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016
. . . rh' olde geezers & biddy-hens still lookin' ahead.






Go Bernie!
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
22. The Daily News is a suburban Long Island, i.e., Republican, news outlet.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:28 AM
Apr 2016

People in the know would not have expected anything less from them.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
50. Not unlike the Southern states, Hillary Supporter now loves them some NYDN.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:54 AM
Apr 2016

For all this talk of how criminal it is to "diss" Obama, they sure have latched onto this rag.

?w=590&h=737

elljay

(1,178 posts)
111. When I was growing up in NY
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

The educated people read the NY Times and WSJ. Newsday was still a Pulitzer prize-winning local paper for Long Island news. The Daily News was mostly pictures with a few paragraphs of explanation written at a 6th grade reading level. It was hardly a serious newspaper but more of the Readers' Digest version for people who were not very educated or interested in anything more than a catchy headline and cover photo. I am challenged as to when, exactly, the Daily News came to be considered a serious newspaper......As far as I can tell, nothing has changed.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
112. In addition, I've noticed over the last year or so they are aping the Daily Mail,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

the UK's horribly right-wing tabloid rag. So there's that to think about. Cheers.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
160. Daily News has a GREAT comic section!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

Seriously, I only read it for that, and only if someone leaves it behind on the train.

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
33. Sanders fraudulent lies about the just got up with him: he sounded like Plain
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:42 AM
Apr 2016

In interview. with ABC news

svpadgham

(670 posts)
194. Unfortunately it's an actual living being.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:08 AM
Apr 2016

It even corrected a spelling error. All the colon usage is bizarre, but that might be telling of something else.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
38. Were it not for the internet
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie would already be an also ran. The media - EVEN THE SUPPOSEDLY liberal-twinged media - have been "in the sack" for Hillary from the get-go.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
31. Maybe this chap should be running instead of Bernie?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

Since he obviously can more articulately state what Bernie "really" meant with his statements.

Kudo's to him for the bernsplaining.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
36. Maybe you missed it
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

but he was reading Bernies reply. Did you read the Daily News article or are you going by what other media and the Clinton campaign are saying about it?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
40. I listened to him read it.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

I then listened to him explaining what it "meant".

It was better than an Ambien.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
74. Does it have to be "exciting?"
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:19 AM
Apr 2016

Real policy isn't supposed to give one a thrill. The responses were informed and reasoned.
This isn't a sports contest - this is about real life and real concerns. Putting hateful and inaccurate spins on it does not serve the people of the United States of America.

Are you more concerned about Hillary or about what happens in this country. Uninformed attitudes like that are beyond appalling.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
34. The more Hi11ary and her
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

campaign "managers" attack Senator Sanders, the more they expose Hi11ary's sordid underbelly -- the deceit and ugliness that voters are rejecting, having been fed a steady diet of this disgusting neoliberal pap.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
44. really the fact that the NYDN's owner Mort Zuckerman has quite lavishly lined Clinton's war chest
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

both in 2008 and now says quite a bit about this hit piece, and also IMO explains why the NYDN refers to the POTUS as Bam

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
70. Shame. You still used too many big words.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

It makes it hard to follow for some of the newby Hillarians who are polluting these waters.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
79. As I said many times, increased media attention is a mixed blessing.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

Now Bernie and his followers get to see what it's like. Not all media attention is going to be positive and much will see very unfair.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
118. If Bernie messes up, then negative attention is fair. But if it's manufactured
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:13 PM
Apr 2016

Then that's a different story. IT goes to HRC's character and she's tried to personally destroy people before.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
153. Most of the attacks against HRC have been manufactured. The Rethugs have targeted
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

her ever since she said she didn't go to the White House to bake cookies.

And your line "she's tried to personally destroy people" shows you've swallowed the Rethug crap whole. You probably also think she killed Vince Foster.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
87. Watching the first part, you could understand where her dishonesty kicked in
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

Even though you could tell her little speech was rehearsed a bit, when she was going to tell the lying part, shy paused, rolled her eyes upward and to the right along with slight twinge of head, then ushered it out

KPN

(15,646 posts)
80. THANK YOU THOM HARTMANN!!!!!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

Through his daily radio show, Thom Hartmann provided the stage that propelled Bernie into the prominence he enjoys today!

In my view, Thom Hartmann is a national hero and deserves our applause for leading the progressive battle against the corporate take over of governance in America.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
83. The irony
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

and it is a deep irony, is that these are EXACTLY the sort of bullshit smear attacks that Clintonites whinge about so ceaselessly when it comes to their candidate.

And yet they have ZERO problem engaging in them against Bernie.

Which should tell you a lot about their moral compass, to say the least.

And it should further reenforce why no sane person should be scared into or browbeat into supporting Hillary Clinton.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
85. Bernie Sanders a formal Democrat since 2015, but he caucused before then only with the Dems and was
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

instrumental in a variety of measures. When he first joined the house, he criticized borth the Democrats and the Republicans for being beholden to big money

"In November 2015, Sanders announced that he would be a Democrat from then on, and will run in any future elections as a Democrat.[177][178][179] On February 4, 2016, Sanders said, "Of course I am a Democrat and running for the Democratic nomination."[180] In 2016, many additional sources, such as PBS,[181] The Wall Street Journal,[182] and CBS News[183] described Sanders as a Democrat."

Read the excellent Wikipedia entry at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

Go Bernie!!

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
96. the media elites are proud of themselves for knocking off Trump, now they are going
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

after Bernie.

Note, I am not saying that Bernie and Trump are similar in any real way. Just that they are media targets right now.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
100. It was not a hit piece - it was a really in depth conversation covering many topics
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders himself said throughout the discussions that the questions he was asked were good ones.

He was given the opportunity to expound in detail on a number of topics.

Bernie gave forthright answers to intelligent questions. The interview was neither fawning nor combative. It was just the sort of thing we ought to be encouraging.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
115. I'm glad to see this.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:01 PM
Apr 2016

Very sad to watch a good man lied about and smeared in such ugly, calculating ways.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
129. You just keep spinning there, it's doing wonders for your in the popular vote
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

the delegate count, the SD count.

Bernie's actual words, in context, on video and on numerous occasions will speak for themselves to those who are still in touch with reality.

Bernie's "hit pieces", including Thom, and Clarence Thomas supporter and former CONs (oh you didn't know Cenk's history?) really expose the desperation of the losing campaign, don't believe the evidence of your own eyes and your own ears, just read the words we tell you and you'll be saved!

Please proceed, you're damaging yourselves here.

 

rynestonecowboy

(76 posts)
196. While we are talking about surrogates
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:34 AM
Apr 2016

how about the man that runs Hillary's superpac David Brock? This is a former Anita Hill smearing republican hitman that illegally coordinates with the Clinton campaign to smear Sanders with half truths and outright lies? I always visited media matters before this campaign to laugh about the hypocrisy of the republican party but now we can all see how David has learned over the years to be the best political hit-man of all time. If you really feel Bernie is the losing campaign you haven't been paying attention. The Clinton campaign has already figured out that they are losing badly and these attacks will become more commonplace and Bernie is on his way to the nomination is the same fashion Obama was against the unenthusiastic candidate in 2008. If you look at the trends of the polls he is will win NY, Pennsylvania, and California which means the game is over.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
177. LOL. Well those that didn't understand him are clueless. The experts all agree with what
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:34 PM
Apr 2016

he said. Just because you don't understand doesn't mean he was clueless.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
168. Am I the only one that thinks that Brock & Corporation do not understand social media?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 07:50 PM
Apr 2016

As soon as they hit Bernie, social media is there to expose their lies.

But then again - I forgot!! Bernie supporters don't do their research



Hillary Clinton tells Meet The Press host Chuck Todd that she "feels sorry for" young supporters of Bernie Sanders who believe his "lies" about her taking money from the fossil fuel industry, without "doing their own research."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
169. What in the world is with the obsession with David Brock?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

For some Sanders supporters, it borders on pathological. Apparently he is Satan, the Boogyman, and that monster under your bed when you were a little kid.

Oh, that bit about not doing your research? It's true!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
183. We need to thank the Daily News for giving Sanders the hard test. He passed with flying colors.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:51 PM
Apr 2016

I dare Clinton to be interviewed by anyone other than the Corp-Media that loves her.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511664587

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
188. K & R ~
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

thank you, thomhartmann. reading the letter for us on air reveals so much about billary & the campaign's dark side.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
192. nothing like the Daily News outting itself as the Readers Digest of News
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:28 PM
Apr 2016

As I was told growing up in high school and College Readers Digest was always pegged to 5th grade reading. I'm not sure The Hobbit was even though it was written for Children. ie it's harder to read The Hobbit than it is the rather LONG LOTR. USA Today I was told was written for an even lower grade level. The anything relative was alway on the front page but everything else was crap. I'd think a leading paper would have a higher reading level but I guess it's common place now for dumb papers to exist. I can't even say the Enquirer is that bad. Yeah it's a tabloid but it knows it is. Daily Noise doesn't seem to know it's a satire paper

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
199. You do realize there is. Verbatim transcript in Bernie's own words
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:52 AM
Apr 2016

If you don't like the interview, it's Bernie's answers you have a problem with. There is no reason for anyone to have to wait for a newspaper or radio show host to tell them what Bernie said. They can and should read it themselves.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306

Hartman isn't reading the whole interview because its quite long. To claim it was about guns only is deliberately misleading. The bulk of the interview is about what he proposes for Wall Street.

To claim that an interview in Sanders own words is a hit job is reminiscent of Palin's claims that the media was asking "gotcha questions" by expecting her to speak about policy. The interviewers gave Sanders an opportunity to talk about his policies. You should read it yourselves, if--that is--you actually care about what he proposes for the country.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
201. you realise
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:31 AM
Apr 2016

that no one but a few Clintonites actually believes what you say in relation to Sanders? Heck 40% of DEMOCRATIC voters in WI don't believe your candidate is honest...

What the media has said about this interview is largely untrue. IF you READ what Bernie says is isn't what the media claims he says. And to claim that Bernie prioritised gun manufacturers of the parents of kids killed in Newtown... well.. saying that is as stupid as saying that BLM is defending murderers... something else Team Clinton has just spouted off...

Anyway, continue on, we'll just be here shaking our head at your endless defending of the indefensible.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
207. Whether you believe me or Clinton doesn't matter
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

The interview happened and is available for all voters who care about informing themselves to read. Clearly you aren't interested in what Bernie says about his own policy positions. That reflects on you, not me.

Of course Bernie prioritized gun makers and sellers over the kids in Newtown and all citizens.; That is what that immunity bill is.
Truth does not emanate from a political campaign. His spin on it conforms precisely with the NRA's interpretation, what every gun activist has said about that bill long before Bernie entered the presidential campaign. What the bill actually does and how it has been applied are very different.

Hell will freeze over before I let a politician tell me how to think. For whatever reason, you aren't able to look into the issue and decide to simply take a politician's word as absolute truth, which is patently absurd. You could say this or that issue problematic but still believe on balance Bernie is a better candidate because of x, y, z, but that would require a degree of critical thinking you have entirely absolved in favor of promoting his candidacy. That's on you.

There is a reason every gun control activist and group in the country supports Clinton over Bernie. They might disagree with Clinton on other issues, but if their cause is gun control, there is no contest.

You can call everyone a liar who dares to question your favored member of the political elite and patently refuse to verify any facts whatsoever. That is a choice you made based on what you value.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
205. You are a conspiracy theorist that has lost all credibility.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:23 AM
Apr 2016

You should broadcast on the Alex Jones media outlet.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
210. wth...
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

Thom has been one of best journalists pushing progressive values for YEARS! Just because you don't like his story (imo - exposing the truth) doesn't mean that he's a conspiracy theorist.

Such an insult to someone who has been on the Dems/progressive side for years.

William769

(55,147 posts)
209. I'm sorry you do not like my site.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

Oh wait, no I'm not anyone going around dissing disabled people should be ashamed and I'll just leave it at that because of community standards (but that's not to say you won't see what I think of you posted on my site. Karma, gotta love it.

I doubt we'll see an apology from you though. so typical.

Have a nice day.

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