Democratic “Peacekeepers” Are Getting In The Way of Progress

[GoLeft TV]

Have you seen these democratic “peacekeepers” online? You’re in the middle of a substantive debate about the differences between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and suddenly they butt in with arguments that’s you’re “tearing the party apart.”

You see this in Ring of Fire comments, Reddit, and anywhere where there is in-party discussions. We have even been accused by some to be a right-wing news source, intent on destroying Hillary…can you be that insecure?

Ring of Fire contributor Sydney Robinson discusses this. Find her on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/SydneyMkay

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1. The term you may be looking for is astroturfing.

[TIME TO PANIC]

2. Amen!

I've nothing but respect for Thom Hartmann, but he needs to see this.

[newthinking]

3. go quietly back to sleep. The kinder-gentler oligarchy is your best hope. Democracy is impractical

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4. and messy.

[bvar22]

5. Ring of Fire!!!

Ring of Fire is the Best in Liberal Radio or TV.
you can find it at :
http://trofire.com/

I watch on FSTV.

[Android3.14]

6. Unsurprising

To be truthful, though, I rarely have a substantive debate with any Hillary supporter. Occassionally, but very rare.

[Vincardog]

8. I have tried on many occasions, the majority of them seem incapable. Funny that.

[pdsimdars]

7. Stephanie Miller Show

This is what the Stephanie Miller Show is all about lately. Any article that comes out and points to an imagined Bernie weakness, Stephanie goes over it. But when a caller calls in to support Bernie, she has a fainting episode and cries for "peace", like Chris Crocker on youtube who cried for people to "leave Brittany alone".

I thought the primaries WERE the time and place to vet the candidates.

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9. It's still called Astroturfing and someone is being well paid to do it.

They do not want a dialogue, because that would be too complicated and impolite. They seem to want Saint Hillary to be anointed without any awkward questions raised about her elevation. "Be afraid, be very afraid!" they cry. "For the demon republicans will smite us if we show weakness or doubt."

It's horseshit from the same ugly source, poured out at no small expense by the acolytes of disaffection and false rage led by David Brock. The plan is to turn out any democrat who doesn't sing the psalms of official loyalty, loudly and at the drop of a dime. To be fair Brock did not invent this strategy, nor is he the only source within the DNC. He did however initiate its transposition into our current campaign literature and for that we may be forever thankful.

[aquabuddha]

10. Assuming others are astroturing means you don't actually want dialogue

If you believe people expressing concern over the negative tone the campaign has become and the potential to hurt both candidates is astroturing you don't want dialogue. You want to be dismissive.

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11. My point is that the worry over the negative tone is a false complaint put in play by Brock et al.

I don't buy that anyone who really cares about the health of our party cannot stand some disagreement. The argument that we are somehow giving ammunition to the GOP is hollow. I strongly suspect the so-called peace keepers are either planted or driven by The HRC campaign. Much as several other false memes have been.

I think that Brock and the DNC have some members of the party so scared that we might lose that they cannot see straight. It is that group proposing that we cannot disagree and I believe Brock or his subordinates are feeding that idea into the campaign to create the false premise what we cannot stand dissent. It is a position that the HRC side has proposed since day one, that there is no future for democrats if we disagree.

Astroturf is the false impression that a group exists who truly advocate a position as legitimate members of the dialogue. I have seen far too much fake democracy this year to imagine that this is anything else. Brock is steering it and if not someone near him is. Consider the timing and the public placement of those remarks. I don't hear anyone from the Sanders campaign talking this way. It is the so-called peace keepers who use their interruptions to interfere with real debate. How very opportune of them to silence discussion.

[pdsimdars]

12. ??

I don't know what the term "astroturing' means.
The point is, this is the time for vetting our candidates. If people don't want you to criticize their candidate's positions, they don't really want vetting.