Bernie's Revolution is Actually Happening...But the Media Won't Tell You

[votesparks]

[downeastdaniel]

1. Good Job Thom, of analyzing the news and straightening out RM.

[Red Knight]

2. Lots of good points

Beyond Bernie's numbers I think it's really important what he said about politics in general.

It has changed.

It's all about gridlock these days--at least on the Republicans side. So if the Dems don't get control of congress and the White House they won't get much done. The whole reaching across the aisle fairy tale was proven to be just that with President Obama. Usually when he reached his hand across the aisle it got smacked. For the Republicans it was their way or the highway.

It is a political Civil War--in a sense. You have to beat the other side at the polling booth in order to govern. If you don't--well--there isn't much you can do anymore. The country is too divided.

Basically, Bernie is saying this. He needs help. He needs people to show up and vote not just for him--but for senators and congressmen. Yes--with redistricting--the House is going to be tough. But who knows?

But the White House and the Senate? Very doable. And if that happens--the Supreme Court can be tilted to the side of the people again. But that will be a long fight--even if the Dems win.

[Enthusiast]

3. It's so disappointing that Rachel is propagandizing to such an extent. (lying)

She knows better. She doesn't want to lose her lucrative gig like Olbermann did.

BOYCOTT lying MSNBC!

[Dustlawyer]

4. Sad but true!

It's why Cenk left, and Ed Schultz defied them and now he is gone too! The principled ones are gone and the ones there taking the money have to dirty themselves. All this from a network which was sold as more liberal, but who aired Trump twice as much as Fox News.

[Gothmog]

5. Sorry, Bernie Sanders. There is zero evidence of your ‘political revolution’ yet

No one has seen any evidence of the so-called Sanders revolution https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/10/sorry-bernie-sanders-there-is-zero-evidence-of-your-political-revolution-yet/

Bernie Sanders recorded a resounding victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary Tuesday. He crushed his rival, Hillary Clinton, with no less than 60 percent of the vote. If Sanders hopes not only to win the election but to achieve his ambitious progressive agenda, though, that might not be enough.

To succeed, Sanders might have to drive Americans who don't normally participate to the polls. Unfortunately for him, groups who usually do not vote did not turn out in unusually large numbers in New Hampshire, according to exit polling data.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484

...As for Sanders, he credited his victory to turnout. "Because of a huge voter turnout -- and I say huge -- we won," he said in his speech declaring victory, dropping the "h" in "huge." "We harnessed the energy, and the excitement that the Democratic party will need to succeed in November."

In fact, Sanders won by persuading many habitual Democratic primary voters to support him. With 95 percent of precincts reporting their results as of Wednesday morning, just 241,000 ballots had been cast in the Democratic primary, fewer than the 268,000 projected by New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner last week. Nearly 289,000 voters cast ballots in the state's Democratic primary in 2008.

To be sure, the general election is still seven months away. Ordinary Americans might be paying little attention to the campaign at this point, and if Sanders wins the nomination, he'll have the help of the Democratic Party apparatus in registering new voters. The political revolution hasn't started, though, at least not yet.

Without this revolution, I am not sure how Sanders proposes to advance his unrealistic agenda

[tk2kewl]

6. so your conclusion?

vote for Hillary 'cause no one cares?



and again... and again... and again...

maybe it will stick?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1247344

[Gothmog]

7. I will vote base on fact and the real world

Sanders is claiming that he will generate a revolution that will mobilize millions and millions of voters which is how he will be able to force the GOP to (1) adopt a $15 per hour minimum wage, (ii) adopt a single payer health care system and (iii) increase taxes on the 1%. Without this revolution, Sanders will not be able to keep his promises.

I am waiting to see these millions and millions of voters.

[tk2kewl]

8. then open your eyes

or at least your browser...

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=sanders+biggest+rally



https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=wto%20protests



https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ows



https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=minimum+wage+strike



https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=climate+change+march



Bang the drum.

[Gothmog]

9. Imagine Bernie Sanders wins the White House. Then what?

Sanders' plans for adopting his proposals depend on these new voters. Here is how Sanders thinks that he will be able to force the GOP to be reasonable http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/21/1483791/-Imagine-Bernie-Sanders-wins-the-White-House-Then-what

Bernie Sanders has made some very big promises when it comes to his legislative priorities: He says he’ll make college free, pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United, and institute a generous single-payer national health insurance program. And when he’s asked how he’ll turn these promises into reality, he says that he and his supporters will help bring about a “political revolution.”

That’s a phrase Sanders uses often, but what does he mean by it? Sanders has said that if he wins the presidency, his victory will be accompanied by a “huge increase in voter turnout”—one that he thinks might end Republican control of Congress. But Sanders acknowledges that the House and Senate could, in spite of his best efforts, remain in GOP hands come next January.

Given that likelihood, Sanders offers an alternate means for achieving his political revolution. He says he knows that a Democratic president can’t simply “sit down and negotiate” with Republican leaders and forge a series of compromises. Anyone who's observed the GOP’s behavior over the course of Barack Obama’s presidency would not dispute that, and in any event, no compromise with Republicans would ever lead to single-payer anyway.

So what then? How would a President Sanders get Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan to pass any of his big-ticket items? This is the model he proposes:

What we do is you put an issue before Congress, let’s just use free tuition at public colleges and universities, and that vote is going to take place on November 8 ... whatever it may be. We tell millions and millions of people, young people and their parents, there is going to be a vote ... half the people don’t know what’s going on ... but we tell them when the vote is, maybe we welcome a million young people to Washington, D.C. to say hello to their members of Congress. Maybe we have the telephones and the e-mails flying all over the place so that everybody in America will know how their representative is voting. [...]

And then Republicans are going to have to make a decision. Then they’re going to have to make a decision. You know, when thousands of young people in their district are saying, “You vote against this, you’re out of your job, because we know what’s going on.” So this gets back to what a political revolution is about, is bringing people in touch with the Congress, not having that huge wall. That’s how you bring about change.

The rest of the DK article debunks that concept that Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell could be influenced by these new voters but we never get to this issue and Sanders himself admits that he will not bet elected without this revolution. So far we are not seeing any evidence of this revolution. Again, Sanders's whole campaign is based on this revolution and so it is appropriate to ask where these new voters are?

It is hard for me to take Sanders' proposals seriously including the ones you want to talk about unless and until we see some evidence of this revolution.

Again, where are these millions and millions of new voters?