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Why Did Hillary Clinton Call African American Kids "Super-Predators"? (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 OP
Oh come on....those were from her "Moderate" years. She has evolved into a "Progressive" now. yourout Feb 2016 #1
I did not hear the words "African American" in that video. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #2
"Super-predator" is a racist dog whistle code word Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #5
hence the moron in Maine PatrynXX Feb 2016 #6
Yup! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #16
the African American community is who was most impacted by the resulting legislation magical thyme Feb 2016 #9
some supporters of some candidates just like to make things up? nt msongs Feb 2016 #10
Anyone know which Nation magazine this was in? Neoma Feb 2016 #3
" Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote" Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #4
the main difference here he Bill vs Hillary. Although eventually I ended up not liking Bill later o PatrynXX Feb 2016 #7
Partying a bit tonight, are we? Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2016 #8
Seriously how old are you . RATM435 Feb 2016 #14
Huh? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #17
Gotta justify those future for-profit prisons, and their sweet, sweet donations *somehow*... AzDar Feb 2016 #11
+1 Follow the $, no matter how debased, predatory and where or who it comes from.. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #18
She has moved on to Middle Eastern "superpredators". n/t cprise Feb 2016 #12
Yes it is this bad a Neocon running for president on the democratic ticket. RATM435 Feb 2016 #13
"bring them to heel" Babel_17 Feb 2016 #15

yourout

(7,533 posts)
1. Oh come on....those were from her "Moderate" years. She has evolved into a "Progressive" now.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:20 PM
Feb 2016

We can't hold that against her!

In case your meter is broken that was

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
5. "Super-predator" is a racist dog whistle code word
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

Several well known African American scholars and leaders have commented on the "super-predator" language.

For example Michelle Alexander has said

In her support for the 1994 crime bill, for example, she used racially coded rhetoric to cast black children as animals. “They are not just gangs of kids anymore,” she said. “They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”
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And Ta-Nahesi Coates has said
Since the days of slavery, into the days of super-predators, and now the time of the Knockout Game, there has always been a strong need to believe that hordes of young black men will overrun the country in a fit of raping and pillaging. It's how we justify ourselves. Information can't compete with national myth.
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Ben Jealous has said
The superpredator idea was this notion that a child at age six months could be such a sociopath as to be beyond redemption. And it’s a violation of theology, it’s a violation of basic psychology. It was never used, as far as I know, to describe anyone white. It was always used sort of to describe young black men as a mass. And it made life very tough for us. And it helped push in bills, quite frankly, that have led to the biggest spike in the incarceration of women that we have seen—of, typically, black women.
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Anybody who remembers the 80s and 90s will remember the racial undertones of the tough on crime political language that was used to justify all the racist policing and incarceration.

In conclusion that is why super-predator language is racist.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
6. hence the moron in Maine
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016

no no he didn't use racial language he says , just drug thugs uh huh right...

yeah love the knockout game whene dad was still pushing that myth that was during the myth time that Chicago was the most violent city in American. It's never been number one and at last check not sure it's in the top 100

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
9. the African American community is who was most impacted by the resulting legislation
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

It's true, in the clip she doesn't say "African American" kids. "Gangs" at that time were a synonym; presumed black. So it was kind of a dog whistle or code word.

If you follow the links you come to some "intellectual" who wrote a book in '95 warning about a demographic block of "superpredator kids" of grade school age that would bring guns to schools instead of lunches and had no ties to anybody except possibly other gang members. His "theory" (and I'm using the term theory here loosely because it wasn't a real theory in the scientific sense) was picked up by certain politicians and used to justify the building of the police state we now have.

The author has since recanted -- the demographic block of super-predator kids never materialized.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
7. the main difference here he Bill vs Hillary. Although eventually I ended up not liking Bill later o
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

n Hillary, well she wasn't into politics. Not that we knew of at the time. Until she got into the senate seat. That cause problems and eventually became very Anti Hillary. Was still fairly much pro Bill until he was Pro Bush Jr.

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