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Clinton Says She値l Release Speech Transcripts When Everyone Else Does (Original Post) Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 OP
One of my favorite phrases from "Pride and Prejudice"... mak3cats Feb 2016 #1
If she releases the transcripts, why shouldn't all other candidates? kstewart33 Feb 2016 #2
+1 complain jane Feb 2016 #3
Has Bernie given a speech to the banksters? jwirr Feb 2016 #5
she said EVERYBODY Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #6
Bernie has nothing to hide, and if asked, Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #7
Oh, give her a break passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #24
Someone will have to go first LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2016 #8
No candidate in their right mind would 'go first.' kstewart33 Feb 2016 #15
Sanders contributed his speaking fees to charity Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #11
She literally means EVERYBODY. frylock Feb 2016 #17
nobody else is giving private speeches for millions of dollars virtualobserver Feb 2016 #26
Ann Romney is that you? Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #4
Are you ready for Hillary? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #9
Sanders is not demanding a release of the transcripts .. but Matt Taiibbi is on it! YOHABLO Feb 2016 #10
That's perfectly reasonable. As always, why a special set of rules for Hillary? Hekate Feb 2016 #12
Do you honestly imagine... kenfrequed Feb 2016 #21
"like to imagine something nefarious" Here's the Truth: Nobody, and I mean nobody... Hekate Feb 2016 #23
Tell the DCCC to release them. kenfrequed Feb 2016 #30
She wasn't being sarcastic, I don't think progree Feb 2016 #13
IF... Bernie got paid for a speech, It would have been for an organization HE finds kindred. Blue State Bandit Feb 2016 #14
Is Everybody Else zentrum Feb 2016 #16
So in other words ... humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #18
47% moments, no doubt Press Virginia Feb 2016 #29
This cycle has made me realize, youceyec Feb 2016 #19
I disagree with her so I must be a misogynist? Unknown Beatle Feb 2016 #22
NO mention of sex in the OP. Not one word. passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #25
I don't like banks kenfrequed Feb 2016 #31
Holy crap. She admits she has the transcripts. Probably some scandalous shit in there. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #20
I'll look into it NowSam Feb 2016 #27
Sure, I'll release transcripts of all my speeches. nilram Feb 2016 #28

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
2. If she releases the transcripts, why shouldn't all other candidates?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

Or is this another case where one rule applies to Clinton, but everyone else gets a pass?

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
7. Bernie has nothing to hide, and if asked,
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

he'd be happy to release his transcripts, but since he never gave speeches to big banks and wall st. firms, he has nothing to release.

On the other hand, Hillary has given many highly paid speeches to big banks and wall st firms, but she's not going to release them? Why? The answer is because the public will not like what she had to say to them and it would probably doom her campaign, a la Romney's 47% speech.

If she's really a progressive, as she claims to be, why is she trying to hide her transcript? Why not be more transparent?

What's she trying to hide?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
24. Oh, give her a break
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:48 AM
Feb 2016

she is probably hurting herself more by not releasing them. My imagination of what she said in those speeches is probably far more condemning than what she actually said.

8. Someone will have to go first
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

Why not Clinton? Or is this a case of "leading from the rear"? Isn't this a non-issue, like Obama's birth certificate? The story wasn't the certificate itself, it was his refusal (reluctance?) to release it. The longer she holds back, the bigger an issue it is. Unless she said, "Get me in office and I'll get you everything you want," anything she said would be subject to interpretation, and eventually the issue would die away, except in the minds of a few "birther" types.

She knows the chances of all of the GOP candidates releasing all their speeches is practically zero, so she's safe.

Omaha Steve

(99,639 posts)
11. Sanders contributed his speaking fees to charity
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe we should be asking her to giver hers to charity too???

Thanks to DUer thesquanderer: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511165262

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/05/26/bernie-sanders-comes-clean/?_r=0

By FRANCIS X. CLINES MAY 26, 2015 10:51 AM

Voters should be grateful for the government transparency laws that required Senator Bernie Sanders, a rival to Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, to reveal how much he made last year in speaking engagement fees. The total is $1,867.42 for three appearances, a grand sum that is chump change in presidential politicking but enough for the senator to respectably donate the money to charity.

Mr. Sanders, the Senate’s Vermont independent and self-described Democratic socialist, is a far better speaker than those numbers indicate, as his weekly talk radio conversation, “Brunch With Bernie,” has shown. He has delighted leftist political junkies for the past decade with his iconoclastic broadsides. But the senator doesn’t milk his signature New England contrariness for money, not yet anyway.

Loyalists in his fledgling campaign, of course, could not be happier for the contrast with Mrs. Clinton afforded by the disclosure. She has netted more than $11 million for 51 speeches in a recent 15-month stretch, being paid as much as $315,000 per address, with some of it going to charity, according to The Hill. Top dollar for Senator Sanders was a not so hefty $850 paid for a combative exchange with Republican sympathizers on “Real Time With Bill Maher,” the HBO show where the comedian regularly invites politicians to march to a different drummer. (“As a 73-year-old socialist Jew from Vermont, he’s everything everyone is not,” Mr. Maher happily explained on the air. “We love Bernie.”)

So far, the senator may stand out most in the race for not having a super PAC to join rivals in circumventing campaign limits on small-size donations and currying favor with rich patrons. “I do not have millionaire or billionaire friends,” Mr. Sanders declared at the outset, sounding aloof as Thoreau at the money trough. In making a virtue of his campaign hunt for small donations the senator implicitly invites further comparison with Mrs. Clinton. She is reported gearing up to personally court donors for her own super PAC, aiming to garner the 7-figure donations that Senator Sanders can only renounce.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
17. She literally means EVERYBODY.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:35 PM
Feb 2016

Not just other candidates, but if she has to release her transcripts, then anyone who has ever made a speech anywhere should also be required to release their transcripts. That's the logic we're dealing with here, and it's coming straight from the top.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
10. Sanders is not demanding a release of the transcripts .. but Matt Taiibbi is on it!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:34 PM
Feb 2016

Current Rolling Stone article features some of the speeches content due to those present. Of course Sanders is playing nice guy, but really, she is skirting around the issue. We all know even without reading the transcripts what the tone of the speeches were, ''Us" against ''Them" or ''The Banks" against the ''99%" of us. She's a turn coat, and it's going to harm her campaign miserably.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
12. That's perfectly reasonable. As always, why a special set of rules for Hillary?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:57 PM
Feb 2016

RULES FOR HILLARY:

Don't raise your voice to shout like Bernie, don't laugh out loud, don't be cool and cerebral, be warm and approachable, don't reference your motherhood or grandmotherhood, don't defend yourself against lies, be vigorous in your own defense.

Use government servers only (even thought the government keeps getting hacked), don't use a server that is much more secure.

Release your transcripts -- nobody else is being asked to do this.

Bernie was at a whole bunch of high-rolling fundraisers at Martha's Vineyard over the years, I hear tell -- I sure would like to know exactly what he said to those rich folks.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
21. Do you honestly imagine...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:54 AM
Feb 2016

Do you imagine that Bernie Sanders is going to give any speeches at the Vineyard that are anything other than being absolute progressive? I know the Hillary supporters here like to imagine or invent some kind of nefariousness to the Sanders campaign, but I think we all know that he probably gave them at least some version of his stump speech.

Hell, he probably even went after the wealthy bastards a bit. I mean he was completely honest when he walked into the lions den at Liberty University showing crazy chutzpah. He didn't flinch nor did he try to soft peddle his differences from the conservatives there. He told them where they were different without any shame or prevaricating and then told them exactly why they should support him anyways.

But I imagine you have already made up your mind.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
23. "like to imagine something nefarious" Here's the Truth: Nobody, and I mean nobody...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 01:46 AM
Feb 2016

...would give a flying fig about Bernie being at Martha's Vineyard if his supporters hadn't made such an almighty and incessant stink about Hillary's speaking fees and transcripts.

That hypocrisy just reeks.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
30. Tell the DCCC to release them.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:25 PM
Feb 2016

I don't care. I would LOVE to have every single one of his speeches repeated onot the media. Please make it happen. I will sign your damned petition. Do it!

Free media coverage where Bernie's speeches about helping get the working class get repeated a lot? Please make it happen.

progree

(10,908 posts)
13. She wasn't being sarcastic, I don't think
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:09 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:51 PM - Edit history (1)

I notice the top of the YouTube video says, "Clinton Sarcastically Says She'll Release Speech Transcripts When Everyone Else Does"

I didn't get the sarcasm part, I think she was totally serious.

In other words, no.


You are right about that.

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
14. IF... Bernie got paid for a speech, It would have been for an organization HE finds kindred.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

Not one that he believes is acting in a manner antithetical to his own beliefs. Those he would do for free, and ABSOLUTELY not for $¾ mill.

This is how you speak to an organization that you have disagreement with.



That's how you Bern the Podium.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
18. So in other words ...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:57 PM
Feb 2016

those speeches are pretty damning for my campaign and will show me yucking it up with the fat cat bankers.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
29. 47% moments, no doubt
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:32 AM
Feb 2016

Let's see if she was as tough with her don...I mean the bankers, in semi private, as she has claimed.

I want to see where she tells them to "knock it off"

 

youceyec

(394 posts)
19. This cycle has made me realize,
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016

how completely sexist many many of you so called progressives are. Some of you folks have sexism so deeplyingrained you don't even know how bad you have it.

not even going to get into the Clinton double standard which I think has more to do with irrational fear of a strong woman than anything else.

Oh wait, I guess that ones sexist too!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
25. NO mention of sex in the OP. Not one word.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:59 AM
Feb 2016

I seriously think some of you have sex on the brain. No, not that kind. I mean any time anyone challenges your "female' candidate, there has to be something sexist about it...because she is a woman??? WTF???

Good grief. Get a handle on it. It's embarrassing.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
27. I'll look into it
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

But I don't it matters anyway. What difference does it make? It isn't what she said in the speeches. The transaction and obscene amounts speak volumes is how I perceive it. What is implied, in my opinion, is that she is one of them and they all will look out for eachother in the 1% but not for the rest of the people.

nilram

(2,888 posts)
28. Sure, I'll release transcripts of all my speeches.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 03:27 AM
Feb 2016

Both of them. Really boring, and full of 'umms' and 'ahhhhs'. They were both on company time, so I got paid about, oh, $45. Tops.

BUT I'M NOT RUNNING FOR FREAKING PRESIDENT, GETTING PAID $675,000, GIVING SPEECHES IN FRONT OF AUDIENCES WITH VESTED INTERESTS IN PUBLIC POLICY.

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