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Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:00 PM Feb 2016

When a conservative encounters an East Coast, West Coast Liberal Atheist

Last edited Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Total Meltdown. I don't know about you but I love being "dark-sided".



Btw, what's a "gargile"? Is that like cross between a gargoyle and an argyle sock?
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When a conservative encounters an East Coast, West Coast Liberal Atheist (Original Post) Shankapotomus Feb 2016 OP
I think I've seen this one before MynameisBlarney Feb 2016 #1
Trust me a lot of them are like that with Midwest and Southern atheists too. whatthehey Feb 2016 #2
We could win the culture war in a week Shankapotomus Feb 2016 #16
Hilarious and scary at the same time Ligyron Feb 2016 #3
An Isolated Incident Grassy Knoll Feb 2016 #4
The base of the republican party. Scary. Joey Liberal Feb 2016 #5
OK, whoever she is she obviously needs medical help. NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #6
That lady had a lot more going on... Momgonepostal Feb 2016 #7
She is on Facebook Shankapotomus Feb 2016 #14
That is so sad LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #31
her daughter died in a wreck--that's Marguerite Perrin from "Trading Spouses" in 2005 MisterP Feb 2016 #21
WTF?-- that woman is freaking hideous, and seems possessed Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #8
Was that a Ted Cruz rally? Moostache Feb 2016 #9
David Sloan Wilson Shankapotomus Feb 2016 #11
I will have to check out the book...thanks! Moostache Feb 2016 #13
Excellent thumbnail analysis of American "culture" as exemplified by the SUPERBOWL frenzy... Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #23
well, thank goodness for the remote control. navarth Feb 2016 #25
Astoundedly they actually created a lore and tradition on the SB ads on their own LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #30
The orgy of consumption starts in December. Mosby Feb 2016 #24
Where CPS on this lady? Look at those little kids, the trauma. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #10
Did "gawd" also make her toothless and obese? zebonaut Feb 2016 #12
No, it was Shankapotomus Feb 2016 #15
Makes me thankful Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #17
Damn you for your blasphemy! whatthehey Feb 2016 #27
There were some people in school... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #28
Good Lord JamieLeaks Feb 2016 #18
I think it's this beast that foreigners think of when they think of the U.S. nt valerief Feb 2016 #19
Glad she's someone elses problem BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #20
Upon further review lobodons Feb 2016 #22
These are the cretins the GOP panders to amuse bouche Feb 2016 #26
FnH, that was sick. Duppers Feb 2016 #29
I bet when she ripped up the check sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #32
"Cosmic Narcissistic Personality Disorder" + Yooj Meshugenah Donkees Feb 2016 #33
What show is this? liberalnarb Feb 2016 #34
I think it's from Shankapotomus Feb 2016 #35
Apparently her name is Marguerite Perrin. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #36

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
2. Trust me a lot of them are like that with Midwest and Southern atheists too.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

Par for the course I'm afraid. Ain't no crazy like Gawd crazy. And they'll keep doing this as long as they are protected by "respect for sincerely held beliefs".

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
16. We could win the culture war in a week
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:19 PM
Feb 2016

If we introduced some more of her ilk to a selection of California new ageists, New England wiccans
and recorded it.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
3. Hilarious and scary at the same time
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:13 PM
Feb 2016

I'd almost forgotten about this little gem. Point it out to one and you"ll get

...."oh' but she is not a real Christian".

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
6. OK, whoever she is she obviously needs medical help.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

The facial expression of the young child says all that needs saying. The "dark sided" person is the one that walked in through the front door.

Momgonepostal

(2,872 posts)
7. That lady had a lot more going on...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

...than just being conservative. She's mentally unbalanced. Her poor children looked terrified. Does anyone know whatever happened to her?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
31. That is so sad
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:45 PM
Feb 2016

I also saw this episode of Trading Spouses. But watching her daughters reaction to their mother's insane rantings, gave me hope that with more reflection and maturity, they would eventually reject their crazy mother's "faith". I feel sorry for any children, and there are plenty, that are subject to this kind of persistent ongoing brainwashing, especially now with so many homeschooling, so they never are exposed to other children who live normal lives.

And there is just no shame in these people. Everyone else is to be shamed. But she puts her faith as above the money, and rejects this Judas silver....only until the cameras are gone, and she then decides to take the "dark" money so she can get her bypass surgery, to use a man-made solution to combat her own sin of gluttony.

My guess is that some small part of her started to learn something with this experiment. That being around the other family showed her that people without religion can actually have "normal" lives and be happy. And also she suspected that if she herself had seen how a non-religious family person seem so sane and nice, that the woman who stayed with her family may have influenced her own daughters, or in her mind, allowed themselves to be possessed by the devil the stranger brought into her house.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. Was that a Ted Cruz rally?
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:41 PM
Feb 2016

"I speak this into existence..."

That's the kind of bat guano that he couches and says, and the buzz-words that cuckoo bird was spewing...dominionist nonsense and irrationality. The scary thing to me is that society continues to pay lip service to this crap. These people are utter lunatics, unfit to be parenting (clearly) and better kept on a short leash in public....in their churches and homes (when NOT terrorizing their children that is), they can be as batshit insane as they want...but this fantasy land nonsense has no place in the 21st century public square.

1) I posit that 70-90% of the people who are church goers, if you spoke to them alone and off the record would come clean - they no more believe this crap than they believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy. They are members of a club, with a special clubhouse, secret handshakes and initiation rituals, but its still just a club...if 70-90% of them were TRUE believers, TRUE practisioners of the faith, the world would have far less suffering, want and needless death in it. Bangladesh would not be sinking, Antarctica and the Arctic would not be melting because they would understand that nature is not here to be subdued and lorded over by man, but rather man is a part of nature and bound to its fate as surely as the planet revolves on an axis and around the sun.

2) The ONLY redeeming feature of organized religion - AT ALL - is that it offers people a tent pole to rally around and form communal relationships that are harder to secure in a strictly secular world. Harder, but absolutely NOT impossible. Religion facilitates a sense of community and belonging that is vital and in many cases essential for humans to feel connected to each other beyond our biological families.

3) Putting these lunatics in power would be the worst possible thing we could allow in the coming elections and would further endanger the human society that we are barrelling towards a cliff even now.

There is no way to possess "truth"....only a never ending journey to seek it, to refine our understanding of it and to once more challenge our limited capacity to see it at all. Those who claim to possess it are, without exception, lying. Period. Full Stop.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
11. David Sloan Wilson
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:50 PM
Feb 2016

in his book, Evolution for Everyone, makes a good case for why religion is still relevant that conforms to your reason as providing social connection. That truly is its only evolutionary justified redeeming feature.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
13. I will have to check out the book...thanks!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 12:59 PM
Feb 2016

The REAL religion of the USA is not monotheism of any specific flavor...it is consumption, crass, unvarnished consumption.

We just had the high holy day of the year - Super Bowl Sunday - last night.
The corporate elites spent 100's of $M to generate ads that would convince people to buy things that they do not need with money they do not have to support corporate interest they do not share...yet over 100,000,000 Americans were raptly tuned in.

The other, darker half of the true American religion was also on display and in full regalia - gambling. The NFL and its championship game / Saturnalia of Consumption are entangled with gambling to an unhealthy extent. Start with the simple truth that "fantasy" football is largely a gambling training wheel and go from there. People bet on the coin toss, the point spread, the quarterly scores of the game and about a 100 other things and the country turns its eye...but god forbid someone might grow some weed and smoke it in the privacy of their home!

Warped priorities for sure.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. Excellent thumbnail analysis of American "culture" as exemplified by the SUPERBOWL frenzy...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016
We just had the high holy day of the year - Super Bowl Sunday - last night.
The corporate elites spent 100's of $M to generate ads that would convince people to buy things that they do not need with money they do not have to support corporate interest they do not share...yet over 100,000,000 Americans were raptly tuned in.


As an expatriot looking on from "outre-Atlantique", I'm both astonished and appalled by the collective madness.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
25. well, thank goodness for the remote control.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

I watched it because I wanted to see some good football; and there was some.

The commercials, the canned-mass-produced pop star creatures that fill the halftime orgy hold no interest for me.

I'll bet a lot of people did the same.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
30. Astoundedly they actually created a lore and tradition on the SB ads on their own
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:22 PM
Feb 2016

Its all about $. It costs so much to run an ad, and so is an exclusive club already. And since they have to spend so much just to get on the air, it only makes sense to also spend to the max on the ad itself with celebrities, and top writers, special effects etc..

but it is still amazing how they have created a whole cult around the concept of, in the most extreme cases, "I only watch the SB for the commercials"

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
17. Makes me thankful
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:28 PM
Feb 2016

that my host family in Kansas couldn't give a flying F%&k about religion.

I think they must have been the only farmers who didn't go to church or believe in desrt myths from the Bronze Age in the entire county.


whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
27. Damn you for your blasphemy!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:39 PM
Feb 2016

Get it right will you! While some of the OT desert myths refer to Bronze Age history (well, pseudo-history in most cases), they were all written and compiled in the Iron Age, and mostly in the exilic or post-exilic period.

But seriously dodging the Jebus freakery among Kansas farmers was an unusual stroke of luck. Nicely done.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
28. There were some people in school...
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

that really wanted my to join their cult.

There was 12 churchs in a small town of 2500 and zero whores where I went to school.

I did experience a church sermon once, and found the entire experience...disturbing. It wasn't anything near the bible stories they made us listen to in 3rd grade back home.

My host family would rather me have a hangover on a Sunday than having my ears stuffed with bible tales.


P.S. Was speaking in a broader context without going into detail. For that, I will stand in front of a rabid crowd of the sin free flock and let them stone me for my blasphemy.



 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
22. Upon further review
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 02:44 PM
Feb 2016

She accepted the Dark Sided heathen money. I guess she turned the other cheek. (Not quite sure which one though..??)

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
26. These are the cretins the GOP panders to
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

Absolutely frightening when you realize how many of these things are out there...voting...driving...breathing

Duppers

(28,122 posts)
29. FnH, that was sick.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:57 PM
Feb 2016

Is this some disgusting tv reality show?

Those poor children being subjected to this-- it's child abuse!

The woman is hideous. Sorry.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
36. Apparently her name is Marguerite Perrin.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 10:33 PM
Feb 2016

This freak out was on an episode of "Trading Spouses". If you want to watch the full video of a poor couple being tortured by this woman... Here you go.

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