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'This Ship is Sinking' Says Former Bush Official (Larry Wilkerson) (Original Post) Mika Dec 2015 OP
Wow! Sobering Plucketeer Dec 2015 #1
Happy to be the fifth to rec this video. trusty elf Dec 2015 #2
The sun doesn't set on the American Empire!! pocoloco Dec 2015 #3
Strange as it seems I see some hope. zeemike Dec 2015 #4
For me, this represents the penultimate insanity chervilant Dec 2015 #5
Many thanks SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #7
Indeed, there ARE some who can see. chervilant Dec 2015 #8
I remember listening to an interview with Wilkerson on KPFA deutsey Dec 2015 #6
+1 Old school Republican. Now Reagan is considered too far to the left. Even for many Dems. whereisjustice Dec 2015 #9
I am heartened Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2015 #10
Great analysis from the military perspective Warpy Dec 2015 #11
Great interview! another_liberal Dec 2015 #12
Bring on the revolution! PeteyPal Dec 2015 #13
... cprise Dec 2015 #14
Thanks, Telesur. Ghost Dog Dec 2015 #15
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
1. Wow! Sobering
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 11:08 AM
Dec 2015

We actually HAVE a "Goodbye to business as usual" candidate to work with this election cycle. He DOESN'T have the whole-hearted backing of the DNC, but that's really a part of a cure.

trusty elf

(7,398 posts)
2. Happy to be the fifth to rec this video.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 11:33 AM
Dec 2015

Thank you Col. Wilkerson, one of the few honorable Republicans around these days.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. Strange as it seems I see some hope.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 12:06 PM
Dec 2015

In the fact that here is a military man who sees the shit going on and is speaking out about it instead of just taking the money.

Kudos to Abby Martin for this.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
5. For me, this represents the penultimate insanity
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 12:31 PM
Dec 2015

of our species, preceding only our self-destruction.

While I WANT to focus on our species' creativity--the art, the music, the amazing technology we've realized--I can no longer ignore the war industry. Their greed, their hubris, will be the framework within which we witness the disintegration of our society. Indeed, our species is self-destructing.

I've moved to a very rural setting. I have a garden and I have a big creek running behind my rent house. If I can continue to work (have just recovered from severe sciatica--bedridden for six weeks), I should be able to spend my twilight years enjoying the amazing ecosystem that I love deeply and irrevocably. I will continue my activism online, but I will no longer march on Washington. The corporate oligarchs are extinguishing our protesting, using the very weapons created to decimate our "enemies."

In closing, I have to disagree with this man's assertion that the US will be in Afghanistan for at least half a century. I don't think our nation can last that long.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
8. Indeed, there ARE some who can see.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:02 PM
Dec 2015

My optimist self thinks this number is growing.

Thanks for your reply, and I hope you have a restful few days off.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
6. I remember listening to an interview with Wilkerson on KPFA
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 12:42 PM
Dec 2015

about 5 years ago. Even though the station is left-wing (and the first to successfully use the listener-supported model), I remember how the host interviewing him was shocked when Wilkerson said there was a conspiracy behind JFK's assassination.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
9. +1 Old school Republican. Now Reagan is considered too far to the left. Even for many Dems.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:07 PM
Dec 2015

And I agree that we should bring back the draft WITHOUT the Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh exemptions.

Make the sons and daughters of Senators and Congressmen go fight the wars they start.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
10. I am heartened
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:43 PM
Dec 2015

by the fact that this video has been seen by over 100,000 people. I know I will spread it around.

Huge K&R

Warpy

(111,318 posts)
11. Great analysis from the military perspective
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

He knows how much of it happened, although he doesn't seem to see how many of these imperial dots were created by the DEA overseas to make sure we peasants don't get doped up and work slower.

The truth is that the government is just the hired help. Empire doesn't belong to the government, it belongs to the 0.1%, some of which doesn't even live in the US. This is why empires are created, this is why they exist, and this is why they all ultimately collapse.

Most people in the US have lost trust in the usual governmental structures of officials, police, and everybody else who draws a government paycheck. They made a huge blunder by bloating the military without throwing bones to the population like national health, people realize they've been robbed for years. Fortunately for the 0.1%, most are too damned stupid to figure out who the thieves are, so you've got the spectacle of a rich media blowhard like Trump running outside his party bureaucracy on one side and a smart Social Democrat running outside his party bureaucracy on the other.

Whether people listen to this guy and realize what's going on is highly doubtful. Most people don't know enough about history, even enough about the times they've lived through, to realize just what this guy is talking about.

It's a little too bad he got derailed into talking about Iraq. What he had to say in the beginning was much more important.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. Great interview!
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 08:23 PM
Dec 2015

My question is: Does our President ever speak with Colonel Wilkerson? He must not, otherwise how could we be continuing to commit the kind of horribly stupid, greed-driven crimes against international law that have been the hallmark of U. S. foreign policy for the last fifteen years?

PeteyPal

(15 posts)
13. Bring on the revolution!
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 08:44 PM
Dec 2015

To me, his argument validates Bernie's revolution. In fact, the argument makes the revolution necessary and also gives many points that makes it imperative that we elect Bernie instead of Hillary without naming names.

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