Hillary Clinton Attacks Bernie Sanders On Universal Health Care

[NorthCarolina]

Hillary Clinton supported universal health care in 2008. She then criticized Obama FOR NOT SUPPORTING universal health care. She is now criticizing Bernie Sanders FOR SUPPORTING universal health care. She is a hypocrite of epic proportions. She is bought and paid for by wall street and does not represent the American people. She represents corporate America and the 1%. I repeat. She does not represent the American people.

[jalan48]

1. Oh that Hillary. It's not about the issues silly, it's about the first woman POTUS in US history.

[CoffeeCat]

45. You know why she's attacking Sanders?

Because Sanders is a threat.

I knew we'd see more of this after that Iowa Poll showed Sanders within 9. I can't emphasize enough that Ann Selzer's Iowa Poll is the gold standard in Iowa polling. She is known for her amazing accuracy. Nate Silver rates her a rarely-given A+.

The Clinton camp know that losing is a possibility. The Iowa caucus season hasn't even peaked yet. The month of January will be go time. Anything could happen.

First signal of weakness in a campaign--when you launch attacks. She's certainly not going after O'Malley, now is she?

Damn, this is looking more and more like 2008 2.0. It's so exciting!!!

[INdemo]

2. Yes the annointed One

[jwirr]

3. How many insurance companies does she have on her donor list?

[SmittynMo]

16. I don't know, but

you can bet your ass, it's many. Gee that's too bad for them when they lose their massive profits and jobs. Most of us have been through losing a job. We get another job, right?

Hillary wants to fix the ACA, which is nothing more than paying 1500 a month (mostly govt) for a policy that is considered catastrophic insurance, with terribly high deductibles. It still leaves 29M without. Yeah Hillary, try and fix that.

Bernie says "fuck that", we need a single payer system for all and put the healthcare issue to rest.

NEXT!!!

[CoffeeCat]

48. We're the only modern nation...

...without a national healthcare plan.

We look like moronic fools.

And the only reason that we don't have a national healthcare plan is because the healthcare tycoons have purchased our sell-out, corporate-toe-sucking politicians who dont give a rip about us!

If we keep electing politicians like that--then we are moronic fools!

Bernie is the only politician who has the decency and the cajones to take on those health insurance greed monsters.

Let Hillary play cheerleader for the health-insurance companies. She's only helping Bernie and further solidifying herself as a corporate loyalist.

[SmittynMo]

49. 100% K/R

Perfectly said.

[Ferd Berfel]

23. Excellent Question.

She has more corporate logo-patches on her suit than a NASCAR driver.

[Delmette]

40. If I can drop the Medical endorsements on my auto and homeowners

Policies and replace with universal health care, then I say go for it!

Insurance companies have us paying coverage for ourselves and the uninsured every which way (and probably ways we don't know about).

[jwirr]

47. That is an excellent point.

[FairWinds]

4. This post is fair . .

And her statements on Sanders' proposals are

bald-faced lies . .

[blackspade]

5. Shit like this makes potential support for her ...

(if she wins the primary) a tough sell with progressive Democrats in the general.

[newthinking]

8. Doesn't this kind of attack also verify that his candidacy is a serious challenge?

I totally agree with your assessment as well. Her similar attacks on Obama moved me away from her in that election.

It backfired on her during that campaign and very well could in this one. There are people who intend(ded?) to vote for her that really feel strongly about universal health care, even more so than 6 years ago.

[rtracey]

12. actually

Actually that comment tends to prove (to me anyway) just what the republicans want.... they want this party not to support the winner of the primary.... they want infighting like the shitstain mess they have.....

[blackspade]

14. So, back the 'lesser of two evils'....

"who else you going to vote for"..."say hello to President Trump" argument....
It's always the Rethugs, used by the Party establishment to bludgeon the left of the party into line behind the establishment candidate.
That tired old shit has been peddled around here for a decade.....

[rtracey]

24. well

you hit it.... if everyone had a thought like that there would be a neon wall up with TRUMP across it....

[randys1]

27. GOP agitators are ALL OVER the internet and media trying to convince you that Hillary

is no better than GOP therefore dont vote.

GOP hates Hillary, is very afraid of her, and they hate Women with a passion.

They will do anything to stop her from being president.

They hate Bernie as well but for different reasons and not with the same passion.

Anyone who says, on DU, there is ANY chance they wont vote for whoever the dem candidate is, should not be here.

[gordyfl]

42. "...but she's a woman"

"GOP hates women with a passion"?

Just think of all the Republican women talk show hosts. The GOPers I know listen to and admire these women. They even run out and buy their books.
Did Republicans "hate with a passion" Sarah Palin? They loved her.

Would Republicans vote for Carly Fiorina over Hillary? In a heartbeat.

The Hillary campaign has been trying to turn this election into a gender thing from day one. How effective this campaign strategy is remains to be seen.

Bernie Sanders is giving Hillary trouble in this election because of the "issues" - like his stance on Medicare for All.

But keep reminding us, "But...she's woman".

[Hiraeth]

43. Would Republicans vote for Carly Fiorina over Hillary? In a heartbeat.

damn skippy they will.

[randys1]

50. I just read on DU , believe it or not, that the GOP doesnt hate Women...now I have seen

everything

[Hepburn]

62. They don't hate women...they like to use them.

For that reason, they are worth something to the GOPers.

[TIME TO PANIC]

6. Not supporting universal health care is immoral and stupid!

[upaloopa]

7. She criticizes Bernie's plan.

Bernie is not "universal health care"
Hillary was fighting for universal health care when Bernie was forming his talking points.

To twist Hillary's critique of Bernie's health care talking points into Hillary does not represent the American people is about the most dishonest thing posted so far today.

[riversedge]

9. Is this new? news. Serious question. Has she said something recently?

[peacebird]

10. ...

[RoccoR5955]

20. That is an uninformed lie.

Bernie has been advocating for universal healthcare for a long time. At least since he was mayor of Burlington.

[Ferd Berfel]

25. BINGO!!!!

[rtracey]

11. yes

Yes, listen closely before jumping. Hillary does NOT attack Bernie Sanders, she attacks Bernie Sanders proposal....2 different things

"Hillary Clinton Attacks Bernie Sanders On Universal Health Care" is a bullshit title

[Duval]

13. This points out

the difference between a progressive ideology vs a centrist point of view. Hillary would expand Obamacare, Bernie would expand Medicare for All. The basic difference is you eliminate profit.

Good post NorthCarolina!

[floriduck]

22. And you get coverage for all Americans. nm

[bvar22]

54. ...in ONE GIGANTIC Risk Pool with about a 3% overhead,

and can you imagine the Collective Bargaining Power the American People will have against For Profit Provider Gouging and Big Pharm.

[Hepburn]

63. bvar22

Your posts are always short and to the point and you nailed this!

[NorthCarolina]

56. I agree...

and Thanks

[99th_Monkey]

15. Hillary attacks Bernie on single-payer, a plan she FAILED to implement in 1993.

hmm. makes perfect sense, I guess .. sort of ... well ... actually not so much.

[SmittynMo]

17. Good post

Made me laugh. Thanks

[99th_Monkey]

19. .

you're most welcome.

[Divernan]

31. She failed because she did not work and play well with others.

It's her way or the highway, and that has not changed. Of course her way is continually "evolving", which forces her fans to twist themselves into pretzels.

[Plucketeer]

18. Flip Flop

and oh.... can you cash a health insurance co. check for me?

[Ed Suspicious]

21. Honest abe here likes what she likes when it's expedient to like it.

[Cheap_Trick]

26. She was for it before she was against it. nt

[sulphurdunn]

28. When you're worth millions,

a few thousand a year out of pocket for health insurance must not seem unreasonable.

[jalan48]

30. She pays $600 for a haircut so yes, Obamacare should work great for everyone.

[sulphurdunn]

58. If she pays $600 for a haircut

she wouldn't qualify for Obama care, but she would qualify for the same universal healthcare coverage everyone else had if we had it. So, I'm very skeptical of hearing how we can't afford universal health care or any other social program from someone who pays $600 for a haircut. The problem with your reasoning is assuming that having the money to blow on $600 haircuts is necessarily irrelevant to her policy positions. It may or may not be.

[jalan48]

59. I'd venture a guess that it's more than most Americans can pay regardless of their policy positions.

[sulphurdunn]

60. Actually,

I think it's a lot more than most people would pay or would be too embarrassed to pay, regardless of their incomes or policy positions.

[Hepburn]

64. She is 65+ and therefore

the ACA does not include her or Bill. Her huge wealth does not matter on this...it's just the rules.

[HassleCat]

29. Depends on what you mean by universal

We have universal health insurance right now, since everybody is forced to buy a policy. I think we all knew the ACA was only a first step, something that would pass Congress because it was watered down. What Democrats need to do now is work on improving it, but we have so many "Democrats" who are afraid to stand up and be counted, so I'm not feeling happy about our chances. Clinton's ideas about improving ACA seem a little weak, so it will be interesting to see how she defends Obamacare, and how she deals with the Republican governors determined to undermine it state by state.

[jkbRN]

36. we have a PRIVATE (FOR PROFIT) universal health insurance option, which cannot be universal

since it is private and for profit--and for some peopled, they cannot afford ins. cost plus the growing cost of medication. No one should profit at the expense of someone elses death. it's seriously disgusting, i hate the ACA cop out. /rant (sorrry!!!)

[zeemike]

44. We have had universal health insurance before the ACA

It is called Medicare and it applies to everyone...but has an age restriction.
The difference between Medicare and the ACA is that one is for profit and the other not. And the ACA allows the insurance companies to siphon off 30% of all the money into their pockets, and I would guess that less than 50% of it actually goes to health care.

If Democrats wanted universal health care they would have simply eliminated that age restriction on Medicare...problem solved and not mufti billion dollars to create a new thing cynically called the Affordable Care Act.

[DhhD]

55. Third way brings in profits for insurance companies and bonuses. Insurance companies want

$627.00 a month and will only allow two doctor visits that they partially pay for. You get billed the remaining part that BCBS of TX does not want to pay, and part of any medicines you buy.

This Bronze HMO Plan is $7524.00 per year for hardly any health care, is one of the lowest cost plans on the Marketplace.

In 2012 and 2013, insurance companies had to spend 80% on healthcare. Many people got a refund check. Beginning in 2014, with ACA, there is no accountability to the individual.

[zeemike]

57. Wow, that is pretty bad.

I am on Medicare so I don't notice it.
But there is no way that is affordable to low wage or most people.

[MisterP]

32. right above this story on the DU front page

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141290408

point is, if you're the 10% of the country that doesn't have to hold off surgeries over a $1,000 copay (for conditions women who've gotten it say is worse than pregnancy), doesn't have to live with mental issues until the specialist insurance kicks in, haven't gotten crap for daring to buy from an "unsafe" Canadian pharmacy because the expense would require at least one kid/parent move in with you, haven't delayed marriage because of the insurance--then by all means, vote Clinton

[WillyT]

33. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[SoapBox]

34. Round and Round, she goes....

And where she decides to take a stand...hell, no body knows!

[Cassiopeia]

37. As the politician spins.

More drama than the most popular soap opera!

[Thespian2]

38. K & R !!!!

As long as insurance companies are involved in health care, Americans will never have universal care...

[Fuddnik]

39. Her owners don't cotton to that idea.

[raindaddy]

41. We don't want to interfere with the profits of the health insurance giants....

There's a concerted effort to turn the Democratic party into the moderate Republican party and Hillary Clinton is their spokesperson..

[gordyfl]

46. Medicare for All - It Just Makes Sense

A Canadian out of work is in a much better position than an American out of work, regarding healthcare.

Medicare for All is the way to go. Let's join the rest of the major industrialized nations in the world. We begin by voting for Bernie Sanders.

[sonofspy777]

51. Medicare 4 All

Let's, at least in this, join the civilized world.

[Thinkingabout]

52. Medicare for all, Sanders must not know Medicare has a monthly premium

For every person, right now those on Medicare are paying $104.50 a month, pays copayments, pays to be hospitalized, etc. Right now many of the children het health care without paying and some low income gets Medicaid. Medicare for will halt this.

[Doctor_J]

53. disgusting, and entirely unsurprising

I am completely at peace with my decision to not vote for her.

[Hepburn]

61. OMG.....

....she is unbelievable! Hypocrite is not a big enough word to describe her loyalty to the 1%. She makes me ill.

Wonder how much Big Pharma has given her and will not continue to give her in even larger sums. Fuck this shit.