TYT: Read The WHOLE Second Amendment

[WhoIsNumberNone]

The second amendment keeps coming up because mass shootings keep happening on a daily basis. A lot of second amendment fans are omitting a key part of it, purposely or otherwise, to distort its meaning. Cenk Uygur, hosts of the The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

"As America grapples with a relentless tide of gun violence, pro-gun activists have come to rely on the Second Amendment as their trusty shield when faced with mass-shooting-induced criticism. In their interpretation, the amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms—a reading that was upheld by the Supreme Court in its 2008 ruling in District of Columbia. v. Heller. Yet most judges and scholars who debated the clause's awkwardly worded and oddly punctuated 27 words in the decades before Heller almost always arrived at the opposite conclusion, finding that the amendment protects gun ownership for purposes of military duty and collective security. It was drafted, after all, in the first years of post-colonial America, an era of scrappy citizen militias where the idea of a standing army—like that of the just-expelled British—evoked deep mistrust.”*

Read more here: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/second-amendment-guns-michael-waldman

[napi21]

1. Ruth Bader Ginsberg explained the 2nd amendment last week.

She explained that the time it was written, the founders knew they might have to call up a militia to defend the fledgling Country, but there was no money to pay a standing army, so they put the wording in the Second amendment to insure an army, armed with muskets would be available if needed. "It is no longer necessary!"

[TeddyR]

5. Does the Second Amendment say

"Armed with muskets"? I haven't seen that part but will reread. And I still want someone to point me to the language that states you MUST be in a militia before the right to keep and bear arms is protected. I haven't seen it. Otherwise, the Amendment states the "right to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed." That protection couldn't be any clearer.

[napi21]

6. Here's the Ginsberg's quote

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2013/10/justice_ginsber.php

"The Second Amendment has a preamble about the need for a militia ... Historically, the new government had no money to pay for an army, so they relied on the state militias," she said. "The states required men to have certain weapons and they specified in the law what weapons these people had to keep in their home so that when they were called to do service as militiamen, they would have them. That was the entire purpose of the Second Amendment."

Read the balance of her remarks at the link.

[mentalslavery]

9. Its called sentence structure teddy r

for example if I told you "as long as you don't kill someone, you may have a gun for the next 7 days", then having a gun in your possession for the next week is contingent on not killing someone because the first half of a sentence provides context for the rest of the sentence. A sentence is a way of writing so that people understand how ideas are linked together. The second amendment is a series of statements that are strung together via dependent clause.

Also, it says people, not person. So we can regulate who can't and who can "bear arms" or "keep". We can also regulate which arms people can and can not have!

[zebonaut]

2. The True Second Amendment: "A Well Regulated Militia"

Well Regulated

[TeddyR]

4. "Well regulated"

Means well-trained, i.e., trained in the use of firearms. Both 2d Amendment supporters and gun-grabber scholars agree on this issue. There's no real secret here, and you can find plenty of literature on this issue.

[mentalslavery]

8. no teddy r well regulated does not mean well-trained

because trained and regulated are two different words with different definitions. I say we grab all the guns from people who can't read!

[MADem]

7. Here are some "well regulated" militiamen....

If "well regulated" is a synonym for "buffoon."

Since when does "regulated" mean "trained?" Who says that--ever?

I'd say SUPERVISED is closer to the mark. Given limits, told what/when/where...you know, kind of like the military and the national guard.

reg·u·late
ˈreɡyəˌlāt/
verb
past tense: regulated; past participle: regulated
control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.
"a hormone that regulates metabolism and organ function"
synonyms: control, adjust, manage
"the flow of the river has been regulated"
control or supervise (something, especially a company or business activity) by means of rules and regulations.
"the organization that regulates fishing in the region"
synonyms: supervise, police, monitor, check, check up on, be responsible for; More
set (a clock or other apparatus) according to an external standard.

https://www.google.com/search?q=regulated%2C+definition&oq=regulated%2C+definition&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5628j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Trained?

[cantbeserious]

3. This Citizen Suspects That Many Gun Lover Citizens Are Not Prepared To Face Reality

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[turbinetree]

10. The second amendment was .............................................

written:

so lets really look at what it means.............................


Honk-------------------for a political revolution it is the U.S. Supreme Court and the Congress in this election


Bernie 2016

[jjewell]

11. Bottom line:

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It means exactly what it says. If you are part of a "well regulated Militia" (generally regarded these days as The State National Guard), which is necessary to the security of a free State, then the rights of the aforementioned "people" (The State National Guard) to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

THEREFORE, if you're NOT part of a "well regulated Militia" (generally regarded these days as a member of The National Guard), you are by definition NOT "necessary to the security of a free State", and hence YOU CAN and WILL have your "right" to keep and bear Arms infringed/regulated by the state, because you are NOT the "people" referred to in the Second Amendment.