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EarlG

(21,950 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:15 PM Sep 2015

Pic Of The Moment: Cheney Attempts To Spin Faster Than The 5000 Centrifuges He Allowed Iran To Build



Chris Wallace Dazes Cheney: Iran's Centrifuges 'Went From 0 To 5,000' While You Were VP


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Pic Of The Moment: Cheney Attempts To Spin Faster Than The 5000 Centrifuges He Allowed Iran To Build (Original Post) EarlG Sep 2015 OP
Ugh... SoapBox Sep 2015 #1
Cheney can spin all he wants, but that doesn't change the facts. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #2
Oh, but he doesn't think of it like that. Chemisse Sep 2015 #4
Just an outright lie maindawg Sep 2015 #3
He DID call it right then and there. maddiemom Sep 2015 #36
"Wouldn't change a thing, would do it all over again." czarjak Sep 2015 #5
He DID make untold millions, after all. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #13
There is a method to his war crimes. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #6
This! Delmette Sep 2015 #11
could be right but whatever his reasoning, Cheney should be indicted now! wordpix Sep 2015 #19
IIRC, cheney was urging bush to attack Iran Unknown Beatle Sep 2015 #27
Stellar moment for Wallace. Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #7
I sure wish somebody would ask that old war criminal 2 things: Botany Sep 2015 #8
Yes, never understood why no figure has been attached to the fortune Cheney profiteered off Iraq War stuffmatters Sep 2015 #15
KBR made 39.5 billion in profit and Botany Sep 2015 #23
HRC should use this line! wordpix Sep 2015 #20
HRC should use this line! AlbertCat Sep 2015 #31
Cheney is delusional. Worst. President. Ever. EEO Sep 2015 #9
omg, Cheney refers to * as "King Meddler"!?!?$$ lmao wordpix Sep 2015 #21
How is Cheney gonna spin things when... Helen Borg Sep 2015 #10
Chris Wallace found his one remaining vertebra! Cheney better watch his back; TPTB just let him know WinkyDink Sep 2015 #12
I think the Fox graphic was supposed to say "2001=zero, 2009=5000 centrifuges." stuffmatters Sep 2015 #14
Go hide under a rock Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #16
Is there a worse American living now than Dick Cheney? Faygo Kid Sep 2015 #17
Absolutely the worst who gets air time to express his opinions on national TV. Martin Eden Sep 2015 #32
Yes. Why does a deluded and/or lying war criminal (in the eyes of much of the rest of the world) maddiemom Sep 2015 #37
Lynn is out spinning too libodem Sep 2015 #18
This may be the first time so called "Fox News" exposed Cheney as a..."liar" Stuart G Sep 2015 #22
You Call Iran Part of the "Axis of Evil" then... Herman4747 Sep 2015 #24
His words are revealing: "I think we did a lot to deal with the arms control problem in the Middle WinkyDink Sep 2015 #25
The outing of Valerie Plame is the biggest reason Iran has a nuclear program d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #26
Wallace corrected him but didn't push it liberal N proud Sep 2015 #28
Wallace has always been a good interviewer. Takes after his dad. 7962 Sep 2015 #29
"There was a time when they stopped their program because they were scared of what we did..." AlbertCat Sep 2015 #30
Cheney's foreign policy explained right there. Make the rest of rhe world "scared of us." maddiemom Sep 2015 #38
The memory fails all the Republicans on how Bush and Cheney allowed Iran rladdi Sep 2015 #33
Shootemintheface destabilized the entire middle east and apparently doesn't recognize that. What a lonestarnot Sep 2015 #34
double talking dick. nt Javaman Sep 2015 #35
POS media keeps stroking this bastard IkeRepublican Sep 2015 #39
Bush/Cheney FORCED Iran to build those centrifuges. aquart Sep 2015 #40
Cheney: "... that happened on Obama's watch" left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #41
Republicans remind me of George Carlin's routine about cats....... LongTomH Sep 2015 #42

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
1. Ugh...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:21 PM
Sep 2015

Dr. Evil speaks.

At least he makes himself and the other Bush War Criminals look like the idiots they are.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
3. Just an outright lie
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:32 PM
Sep 2015

'it happened on Obamas watch', Wallace should have called that a lie right then and there. Pure evil.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
6. There is a method to his war crimes.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:41 PM
Sep 2015

By allowing Iran's centrifuges to go from 0 to 5,000, Cheney and his war crimes crowd were positioning the US for another war.

I mean, you guys KNOW how much Halliburton and the other profiteers made off the Iran deal, not to mention Afghanistan, Pakistan, and other sundry mid-Eastern countries.

Cheney was setting us up to create another cash cow for the MIC.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
27. IIRC, cheney was urging bush to attack Iran
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:11 PM
Sep 2015

but bush and the State Department wanted a diplomatic approach instead. cheney, AIPAC, and the neocons were looking for ways around bush to invade Iran, even going so far as telling Israel to invade because if they did, it would give bush no choice but to follow.

Botany

(70,518 posts)
8. I sure wish somebody would ask that old war criminal 2 things:
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 01:24 PM
Sep 2015

1) How much money did you and your family make on the Iraq?

b) Do you feel any shame at all seeing the dead little Syrian boy or
the story about those Syrians who died in the truck in Austria because they
were fleeing ISIS which was created by your war in Iraq?

Cheney should be in jail but we still have the swiftboating of HRC because
she used emails.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
15. Yes, never understood why no figure has been attached to the fortune Cheney profiteered off Iraq War
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:31 PM
Sep 2015

The World deserves to know.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
9. Cheney is delusional. Worst. President. Ever.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 01:33 PM
Sep 2015

He was allowed to run things by George W. Bush, who eventually caught on that Cheney was a "bad man."

Cheney Presidential Memoir Heavy On Criticizing George W. Bush

WASHINGTON (The Nil Admirari) - Today, excerpts from former Vice President Dick Cheney's presidential memoir titled "Leading America From Underneath The White House" were released. The 33,000-page book absent of pictures and attempts to personify Cheney was heavy on its criticism of George W. Bush, which the text referred to as "King Meddler."

RELATED: Cheney Announces Run for President, Promises Minimum of Two Wars

On the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks, Cheney's presidential memoir stated:
When the terrorists attacked America on 9/11 it was fortunate for America that King Meddler was reading the book 'My Pet Goat' so there would be no interference with the official response from our government - determined by me. I was the one who ordered commercial planes shot down, if necessary, while I made sure King Meddler flew on Air Force One from one God-forsaken place to another. That day marked the first day of my leadership of America from underneath the White House.
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
12. Chris Wallace found his one remaining vertebra! Cheney better watch his back; TPTB just let him know
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015

he is expendable.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
14. I think the Fox graphic was supposed to say "2001=zero, 2009=5000 centrifuges."
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:26 PM
Sep 2015

Throughout the Bush-Cheney Administration Iran's nuclear capabilities soared, not just the last 2 years.

Cheney even tried to weasel out during the interview, exploiting Fox's truncating of the time period & blaming it on Obama (2009) Rightfully Wallace shut him down on that typical Repub defense ('If it happened 2009, then it was Obama's fault&quot they've used
to justify all colossal messes their eight years of misgovernment left Obama.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
17. Is there a worse American living now than Dick Cheney?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:37 PM
Sep 2015

I can't think of any. I marched against Vietnam in DC, then again 30 years later against the war in Iraq. Both were insane. Cheney is a cold blooded killer, a truly evil man, and a heartless (literally and figuratively) figure.

Martin Eden

(12,871 posts)
32. Absolutely the worst who gets air time to express his opinions on national TV.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:14 PM
Sep 2015

Good to see him get shot down, but he really belongs in prison.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
37. Yes. Why does a deluded and/or lying war criminal (in the eyes of much of the rest of the world)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:09 AM
Sep 2015

continue to be given so much coverage and book-selling publicity on what are supposedly serious news shows? Dick Cheney may well be the most hated man in the U.S., but he isn't worth the time to revile... until he starts showing up everywhere promoting his book and dissing the current POTUS. His absolute, delusional nerve is really without precedent.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
22. This may be the first time so called "Fox News" exposed Cheney as a..."liar"
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:36 PM
Sep 2015

Very very important..I am not sure, but, I think this has never before been done by Fox as far a Cheney is concerned.

..Yes, he did not call him a liar...but he came as close as one could..People watching that moment, know what Wallace was doing. I doubt Cheney knew it was coming, because Wallace followed up with questioning him a 2nd time, and correcting the lie...so, Cheney had to lie again.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
24. You Call Iran Part of the "Axis of Evil" then...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:15 PM
Sep 2015

...it is no surprise that it went from 0 to 5,000 centrifuges.

Obama intends to work with Iran, not against the country, so I expect his deal will meet with far more success.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
25. His words are revealing: "I think we did a lot to deal with the arms control problem in the Middle
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:36 PM
Sep 2015

East."

ARMS CONTROL PROBLEM. I.e., the control of arms WAS THE PROBLEM to Bushco!

EXAMPLE A-1: Outing CIA Operative for Arms Control in the M.E., Valerie Plame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#.22Plamegate.22

EXAMPLE 2: Claiming Saddam had not allowed Arms Inspectors to work.
http://www.salon.com/2006/03/31/bush_lies/

EXAMPLES 3 - A BILLION: How We Got There:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
26. The outing of Valerie Plame is the biggest reason Iran has a nuclear program
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:05 PM
Sep 2015

These fools knew what they were doing. They wanted another war and they almost got it. This guy should be in prison, not off doing interviews.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
29. Wallace has always been a good interviewer. Takes after his dad.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:50 PM
Sep 2015

Glad he didnt let Cheney weasel out of it

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
30. "There was a time when they stopped their program because they were scared of what we did..."
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:01 PM
Sep 2015


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Only in your mind, Dick..... like your entire administration. See you can make up your own reality, but it doesn't change real reality like you thought it would.

And since Bin Laden's attack on us, under your tenure, was such a big success and still is, and your wars were and are such a dismal failure, no one was, or is, scared of us.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
38. Cheney's foreign policy explained right there. Make the rest of rhe world "scared of us."
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:14 AM
Sep 2015

It's why he actually gets off on being called "Darth." Just the sort of psychopath who we should allow power.

rladdi

(581 posts)
33. The memory fails all the Republicans on how Bush and Cheney allowed Iran
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:23 PM
Sep 2015

to build so many centrifuges. They lost them memory on the Bush era and how he almost destroy America. The GOP think they are the savors of this nation, when they really are the destroyers. When will the voters understand the Republicans cannot have PEACE, but only war. They cannot negotiate a peace agreement, but just start wars. The GOP is incompetent at the highest.

The hate that Obama has done so well in his 2 terms are President. They continue to fight him to destroy any peace agreement, climate change agreement, etc. They hate that Obama can get all this done. The GOP has been a constant failure when in control of the USA. It taken 17 of them to run President for any chance to win in 2016. 17 incompetent Republicans running in 2016 and all will be failures.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
34. Shootemintheface destabilized the entire middle east and apparently doesn't recognize that. What a
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:48 AM
Sep 2015

bozo. And to think this fuckwit was second in line.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
39. POS media keeps stroking this bastard
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:20 AM
Sep 2015

We all know what he's going to say. I don't care what he's questioned, babbles or whatever. We need him gone. GONE. Put back to his lair in Wyoming or whatever phony-rural-setting place he resides and ignore him until nature takes the next proper step.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
40. Bush/Cheney FORCED Iran to build those centrifuges.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:39 AM
Sep 2015

The US does not invade non-nuclear nations.

Bush showed the world a little list called Axis of Evil. Iraq was on it. Iran was on it. Iraq got invaded, destroyed. HOW'S IT GOING, IRAQ? Iran shit in its pants.

The only sane way to prevent the invasion foretold by Bush's hit list was to become a nuke power. So that's what Iran tried to do.

This is our fault.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
41. Cheney: "... that happened on Obama's watch"
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:50 AM
Sep 2015

Why not:
When the U.S. invaded Iraq ... that happened on Obama's watch"

GOP nut jobs would swear it's true.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
42. Republicans remind me of George Carlin's routine about cats.......
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:46 PM
Sep 2015

......they never pay dues for their mistakes!

Bring the economy to the brink of collapse -- Obama's fault!!!!!

Lie us into an unnecessary war and keep it going long after it should have ended, and turn the whole thing into an ultimate clusterfuck -- yeah, Obama again!!!!!

They do this repeatedly; they blame the previous Democratic administration; when the Democrats bring the country out of recession, they take credit for the recovery.

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