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Jeb Bush: "Taking Out Saddam Hussein Turned Out To Be A Pretty Good Deal"
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valerief
(53,235 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)I think around a million.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)SpankMe
(2,969 posts)The facts stated in the picture are, indeed FACTS. They are in-context and completely un-distorted. They are provable by anyone of any political persuasion. Yet conservatives still nuance and lie their way into believing twisted and illogical versions of these facts. And these conservatives vote and donate to Republican candidates.
We have to support Democrats with our $$ and with our activism. Get out the vote. Pick Hillary, or Bernie or whoever reflects your views and donate and vote. We cannot afford a Republican in the White House. It would be unthinkable.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Bibi Netanyahu is more bloodthirsty and more dangerous than Saddam ever dreamed of being -- and US politicians line up to suck his dick on a daily basis. And Bibi does have WMDs.
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Jeb! selfie
hibbing
(10,109 posts)Yeah, keep living in some delusional world with your trust fund and your sociopath brother. Good deal for the Iraqis for sure since they do not have basic things like electricity, clean water and any other aspects of "normal" life they had before the immoral war based on lies.
Peace
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Nationwide.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)The scent of Chimp permeates his every molecule and follows him everywhere, wherever he goes. He can say or do anything but he will carry the scent of Chimp forever.
tavernier
(12,406 posts)in Iowa, no doubt as some sort of "gotcha" to HRC.
Perhaps we should all send him a copy of the OP?
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)coined by someone here at DU
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)I had decided that, henceforth, I will refer to him exclusively as Jeb! However, I renege on that. I will, from time to time, use Dimmerson.
eppur_se_muova
(36,299 posts)... not to make an omelet or anything, just to get some eggs broken.
yuiyoshida
(41,864 posts)"war President".
barbtries
(28,811 posts)i think he's every bit as stupid as his brother and as craven as his mother. fuckall the bushes.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Telling the truth is not an option, so they have to count on teabagger types being stupid enough to believe the lies.
Of course there is no shortage of real lunatics like Ghomert & Bachmann.
erronis
(15,355 posts)notemason
(299 posts)that Mommy sent Jeb out not to win but to try to perfume Bubba's stink.
merrily
(45,251 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)C Moon
(12,221 posts)Let's see if this spinning sticks. The media doesn't seem to be concerned with him spinning things.
ffr
(22,672 posts)The Bush Crime Family.
Register. And vote for Democrats. At every level. It's your civic duty to protect this nation from those who are here to destroy it.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Cholera and dysentery just for starters.
Then there's the stupidity of thinking everyone in jail was a political prisoner of Saddam. They "liberated" a bunch of people who sought revenge against those that sent them to jail. In some cases is was husbands who went home to rape and murder their wife.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)We see what happens to communities when they're hit hard by a devastating disaster. Loss of the lives of loved ones, jobs, homes, schools, means a rise in depression, suicide, and a plethora of other mental health issues.
How do you weigh the cost of it all? Saddam is gone, and so is his family. But look at what's replaced his rule in that region. How dare a Bush minimize the pain that's been endured by these people.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Elric: Well, take this for what little it will profit you. As I look at you, Ambassador Mollari, I see a great hand reaching out of the stars. The hand is your hand. And I hear soundsthe sounds of billions of people calling your name.
Londo: My followers?
Elric: Your victims.
P.S. This video almost demands the viewing of the one wherein Mollari unwittingly has his first dealing with a representative of the Shadows. It goes to the vanity and insecurity behind the quest for glory and grandeur, the siren call of which lured those who pushed us into war.
I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power. I want to stop running through my life like a man late for an appointment, afraid toto look back, or to look forward. I want us to be what we used to BE! I want I want it all back, the way that it was!
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Babylon_5
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)That show was ahead of its time. President Clark and the Nightwatch, the bending of the media to support the administration. JMS has a lot of insight.
In case you missed it:
And the authorized forum: http://jmsnews.com/forums/
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I have all of the episodes. They have to be watched in order for it to make sense.
The ending was cool. The most advanced fleet of warships in the galaxy reassigned to peacekeeping.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)for the 20 seconds or so in Fahrenheit 911 for showing Iraqui people living normal lives under Saddam Hussein, kids on swingsets and flyng ki.tes. That was called a distortion of reality when in fact Iraquis were living like many in the west, playing in heavy metal rock bands and women showing heir faces and hair in public and wearing make-up and western clothes.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Greece not that long had a military dictatorship, Russia has something of a dictator in Putin. And of course :cough: Saudi Arabia :cough:.
(By way of ineptness and malfeasance) Render any of those nations into barbarism and you'd be called the worst kind of dangerous criminal.
No one mourns Hussein and he was a thorn in everyone's side. His murders and tortures, his bellicosity and plots, were reason to want him gone. Our best minds thought up a strategy to eventually win out over the Russian bloc without taking down civilization while doing so. It's a sad commentary that the Bush administration didn't have the wherewithal to match their kind of vision against such a relatively insignificant, and already hemmed in, country like Iraq.
All the resources of the CIA couldn't fund and organize a leadership to eventually supplant Hussein's clique in the Ba'ath party? Even when the writing on the wall was clearer every year?
mudstump
(342 posts)when you don't have any skin in the game and you are a war profiteer.
gordianot
(15,245 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)cindyperry
(151 posts)fucking crazy
malthaussen
(17,217 posts)It simply depends on whom one is serving.
-- Mal
jwirr
(39,215 posts)points.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)The Jebster!
polynomial
(750 posts)With family tradition all the lies in the last millennium of the Bush Crime Inc. these are family lies of Jeb. Besides something smells fishy and the media just ignores it.
The catastrophes of the Bush Crime Inc. include the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill began on April 20, 2010 and lasted 87 days, releasing about 4.9 million barrels of oil into the ocean from a mile deep well.
Halliburton a key player admits to cover up, the key player here is long time Crime Inc. friend Cheney skipping away with million if not billions in profiteering.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/lessons-from-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill-2012-12#ixzz3iochn0De
This oil spill is categorized as the largest oil spill in American history and the effects on public health and food supply are determined and kept in silence.
Ground Zero is a war monument of Bush Crime Inc. Profiteering in your face, they made money on the new Twin towers and slapped America in the face sending the bulk of twin tower salvage to China, was that move used to cover up the details of crime? Details surface on the Internet that the complicit media avoids talking about the material for a new war ship. Never forget the corruption...
The biggest media complicity is Bush Crime Inc. long time business partnership with the Bin Laden family that has been going on for decades in the last millennium.
What is really striking is the complete silence by mainstream media in Bushs long time association with Nazi finance during world war two.
Today history repeats itself with arrogance and defiance Bush Crime Inc. along with Jeb covered up a massive air lift of the Bin Laden family days after 911. A secret air lift so the Royal Arab family would not be jeopardized. Yet nineteen Arabs are identified as 911 terrorist.
Bush Crime Inc. ethos or integrity of lies continues to penetrate todays very depreciated transportation railroad company the Union Pacific. I intend to prove that Union Pacific company safety managers are still tied to old fashion retaliation or retribution with the ability to make employees as victims rather than assets.
My true story will convince America will be another Bush Crime Inc. victim.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Totally clueless. And I thought GW was a dingbat. WOW.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Or are they hidden like "My favorite Martian". Hmmmm
TBF
(32,102 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Proves that he's no less clueless than his brother.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)By 16 February 2007, António Guterres, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, said that the external refugee number fleeing the war reached 2 million and that within Iraq there are an estimated 1.7 million internally displaced people.[10] [11] The refugee traffic out of the country has increased since the intensification of civil war.[10][12]
This is a demonstration of one of the reasons why it's considered a war crime to use false pretenses, and no credible threat, to invade a country and destroy its ability to maintain the peace. And it flat out stinks that our Congress doesn't allocate more money to take care of these people. To talk more of that would be to head to an off topic rant.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I think many Republicans saw Iraq as a potential future regional power. It had a ton of oil, including long-term oil reserves. And it had a senior military leadership that gained tactical skills in the Iran-Iraq war.
Saddam's state was quite pathetic towards the end. 12 years of sanctions, along with the air campaign against Iraq during Desert Storm, had left the country a shell of its former self. But many Republicans saw long-term potential in Iraq to become a future regional power.
The war has left Iraq decimated. I think that this was exactly what many of the war's proponents wanted.
Initech
(100,104 posts)We know what they did, and they can't bank on election theft anymore.
niyad
(113,582 posts)monicaangela
(1,508 posts)This is a perfect example of how some in this country are led down the path of insanity. JEB!...Short for Just Elect Bernie is trying to rewrite history while it should be still fresh in the minds of we the people who just, by the way, lived through this disaster, and are still suffering the effects of the havoc his sibling and his administration brought to this nation...How about we give JEB (Just Elect Bernie) a History lesson every time he has a rally...Evidently he has been attending a Charter school in Texas since retiring from the Governors Mansion in Florida where he also did mischief to help get his brother elected in the first place.
niyad
(113,582 posts)niyad
(113,582 posts)the field. it does not count the ones who died later in hospitals elsewhere, does not count the ones who came home and committed suicide (sometimes, after killing loved ones). it does not count the devastation wrought on the families, there and here.
Stuart G
(38,449 posts)A "good deal" sure, for Dick Cheney..
not for the dead and wounded.....on all sides.
.Jeb's comment will define his stupidity...
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)1) Millions of Iraqis displaced, some becoming refugees
2) Undermining of International Law
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)I would have thought his brother was the one blessed with the lion's share of those traits.
Looks as though they are spread around quite abundantly among the Bush brothers...
Just like his mommy said katrina victims had it pretty good. If you look at the photo in the OP and add a fuzzy gray wig and pearls, who do you have?
VA_Jill
(9,999 posts)"Hungover Owls"? http://hungoverowls.tumblr.com
And don't you think Jeb belongs on that page?
EEO
(1,620 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)All the warmongers. Jeb. Dubya. Cheney.