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Although both major Democratic candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are polling ahead of all their Republican opponents, neither one of these candidates will be able to win the election without the support of African Americans. But when you compare the two records, its obvious which candidate is more concerned about the issues facing African Americans.
Mike Papantonio and author Hal Goodman discuss those records.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)One. Link please, I want to see this one.
The IWR vote came up but not the AUMF in which Bernie voted yes, he also voted to increase the troops, now do we believe his votes or just throw it out.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)They are the SAME vote! Nice try.
Clinton - Yes.
Sanders - No.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)I'm not going to even watch that video. Bernie talks about bread and butter issues, how difficult is that to understand.
PATRICK
(12,228 posts)At least here at DU this might have some relevance. In the past election cycles given a strong progressive(not just liberal) choice the majority(as at some other web sites) seemed to back the most with the most support. Kucinich, Dean. the bugbear of "electability" was strong and saying the most progressives things was the anchor. On the surface and as far as the electorate is concerned that still is our local web direction. That changed of course with the reality of primary results.
I remember how the Kerry people rose and fell with their candidate's fortunes when to a more neutral observer it appeared he was solidly in the hunt.
But this is 2015. Sanders is different in record and credibility with a more populist bread and butter appeal that MIGHT catch on despite common wisdom relying on past weakness. It is not merely about charisma and politicking but a sea change that many more of the American people than "intellectual progressives" OR establishment party-goers can describe. It is another attack brand that certainly the much disappointed liberal websites can take as hurtful. Under some conditions Obama might be expected to chastise the "radical fringe left" in some gratuitous attack on Bernie. Again it is irrelevant.
If it is politics as usual and as strictly controlled by the unholy trinity of donors, media and party leadership then the show will go on with another progressive champion in the dust. If Sanders is seen as a sole voice, as credible and a populist champion(even getting that once helpful Bubba vote among not so dumb and crazy males) then the progressive backers can pretend they are leading the way "for a change" both senses of the word). Compared to the phony baloney Reagan Dem vote it is more than possible as it is real, needed, perhaps necessary, and arguably more attractive politically than all other candidates.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)issues from what should be a typical Democrat 's viewpoint, and she's waffled on so many issues that you need a scorecard to keep up. There is some made up shit about Bernie being a racist and such. But the truth is that her support is based on her money and media advantage, on her gender, and on her inevitability/entitlement. The country needs significant change, which the establishment detests. Hillary will not provide any change at all, and so she is the establishment choice