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hschulein

(1,168 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:37 PM Jul 2015

Mike Malloy - James Fetzer: "Cheney Was In Charge Of 9/11 False Flag Operation"



Former US Vice President Dick Cheney was in charge of the September 11, 2001 "false flag" operation in the United States, says American scholar James Henry Fetzer, who has extensively researched the 9/11 attacks.

Fetzer, a retired professor at the University of Minnesota who currently resides in Madison, Wisconsin, made the remarks in a phone interview with Press TV on Saturday while commenting on release of dozens of never-before-seen photos from the day of the 9/11 attacks.

The photographs, captured by Cheney's staff photographer, show then-President George W. Bush and senior officials in their immediate response to the incidents.

Full story: http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/07/25/421797/Cheney-911-false-flag-

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Archae

(46,335 posts)
1. "False flag??!!??"
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:21 PM
Jul 2015

That guy Fetzer is a total asshole.

Bush and Cheney botched 9/11.
They did NOT set it up.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
7. Right, sociopaths like them would never do anything like that.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:25 PM
Jul 2015

Even if they talk about it, they would never actually do it. That's too much even for people with no conscious.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
5. This reminds me
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jul 2015

of the military trial scene (blanking on name of film) exchange between Cruise and Nicholson, wherein Cruise shouts "I want the truth," and Nicholson roars back, "You can't handle the truth."
I think that pertains here.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
6. The guy who brags that he will rob a bank, then ends up with the stolen bank money is
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jul 2015

pretty likely a bank robber.

The guy who carves up the Iraq oil fields prior to 9/11 clearly has advanced knowledge that some "Pearl Harbor" like event is in the works which will make it possible to confiscate those Iraq oil fields.

The fact that there was an Air Force drill simulating a terrorist attack with jets scheduled on 9/11 is too much coincidence for me.

The fact that the Neocons were hoping for an event like 9/11 is too much coincidence for me.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
9. James Henry Fetzer is a complete nut and Mike Malloy loses credibility promoting this nonsense.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jul 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer

Interested in alleged government conspiracies since the 1963 assassination of US President John F. Kennedy, Fetzer became "a familiar and controversial figure in the JFK research community". With Don "Four Arrows" Jacobs, Fetzer said the 2002 airplane crash that killed US Senator Paul Wellstone had been an assassination. Fetzer alleged the 9/11 attacks were treason and called for military overthrow of the President George W. Bush, a call that hurt his credibility.

In 2005, with Steven E. Jones, Fetzer co-founded Scholars for 9/11 Truth. From mid-November 2006 until the end of that year, Jones, Fetzer and a series of other researchers and individuals engaged in a dispute about the direction of the organization. Jones and others examined the claims of James Fetzer and Judy Wood — i.e., that directed energy weapons or mini-nukes destroyed the WTC Towers, and that no real planes hit the Towers — and delineated empirical reasons for rejecting them. Fetzer has asserted that the World Trade Center buildings collapsed by controlled demolitions or by high-tech weaponry, although his speculations have drawn further critics.

A Fetzer article published by Press TV and Veterans Today titled (by the latter) "Did Mossad death squads slaughter American children at Sandy Hook?" was described in January 2013 by Oliver Kamm as "monstrous, calumnious, demented bilge" that "violates all bounds of decency." Jovian Byford criticized Fetzer's speculations that Jews or Israel were involved in a conspiracy to commit the 9/11 attacks as "a contemporary variant of the old, antisemitic conspiracist canard about the disloyalty of Jews and their usurpation of power in the name of communal interests and the accumulation of wealth."


Osama took credit for 9/11.
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
11. The aspect ratio is screwed up in many copies of the "Osama Confession Video" making him look fat.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:36 AM
Jul 2015

Here's a screen shot of Osama from a proper video compared to other pictures of him:

The translation on the video clearly indicates he did 9-11.

If one doubts that translation, here is a later video of him claiming responsibility for 9-11:

Here's the October 29, 2004 video of Osama from Al Jazeera:



with the English transcript from Al Jazeera:

http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2004/11/200849163336457223.html

This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known, and it means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of children - also in Iraq - as Bush Jr did, in order to remove an old agent and replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and other outrages.

So with these images and their like as their background, the events of September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs, should a man be blamed for defending his sanctuary?

Is defending oneself and punishing the aggressor in kind, objectionable terrorism? If it is such, then it is unavoidable for us.

This is the message which I sought to communicate to you in word and deed, repeatedly, for years before September 11th.


If it were possible for the US to fake the 9-11 attacks from the hijackers, the US certainly wouldn't claim that Saudis were the perpetrators; and that Bush Sr's slaughter or Clinton's devastating sanctions against Iraq, or our support for Israel were motivating factors for 9-11 (If one claims the videos were somehow faked also.)

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
12. James Douglass, in his book, "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 05:16 AM
Jul 2015

...Why It Matters," published in 2011, establishes, beyond any question, that the CIA assassinated JFK. You ought to read it before you accuse someone of being "a complete nut" for working with others to try to piece the thing together in prior years. And you ought to do some thinking about "why it matters."

9/11 is similar, in my opinion. I don't think anyone has yet put all the pieces together, as definitively as Douglass does on the JFK assassination, but I think it will come. I hope it doesn't take fifty years.

We have been a democracy under siege since November 22, 1963. And we are a people suffering a kind of mass psychosis, due to the massive complex of lies that we have been inundated with, for so many years. General Eisenhower stated, in his last speech in office, that the U.S. "military-industrial complex" was a grave threat to our democracy. He was not kidding. He knew it from the inside.

It is very difficult to face the terrible things that the U.S. "military-industrial complex" has done, to others and to our own society, but face them we must, if we are to become the country that we all wish to live in.

9/11, in my opinion, was the end stage of a long series of crimes, subversions, treason and propaganda, that include not only several assassinations, at home and abroad, but also the slaughter of millions of other people, in Vietnam, in Cambodia, in Indonesia, in Africa, throughout Latin America--200,000 Mayan villagers slaughtered in Guatemala alone, with Reagan's enthusiastic support--in Iraq, in Afghanistan and now in Libya, Syria, Yemen and other places.

As a people, because of the relentless propaganda, we are "in denial" about these things. It is partly out of shame, I think--it is so difficult to own up to our own inaction and our seeming powerlessness. We let our own president get shot by our own CIA and most of us did nothing--we just crawled into our holes. And those who DID try to do something were called nutters, and we let that happen, too, because it was a comfortable illusion.

We have let our soldiers die and be maimed in war after war after war, and most of us have done nothing. How can we live with ourselves? Well, we can't. We cannot abide the reality, so we don't live in it. We live in an alternate reality in which Americans are always "the good guys" and no crazy conspiracy to assassinate the president could possibly be true, and no crazy conspiracy of arms profiteers to create endless war can possibly be true, and no president and vice president and secretary of defense could possibly have designed the very event they needed--and even stated that they needed in a public document--to end all hope of world peace forevermore, not to mention looting us blind, and everybody else.

We need to wake up from this nightmare of oblivion that started so long ago. It will not be easy. But I think a proper investigation of 9/11 would be a good beginning. And I am grateful to those who have tried to do it. No more diving into holes and comfortably thinking, "Oh, they're crazy." That won't do. We absolutely need to do an open-air investigation of 9/11, and then maybe we will understand why James Douglass added that phrase to his title: Why. It. Matters.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
13. +1,000,000. Labeling someone a nut is an overused ploy to smear those who make
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:27 AM
Jul 2015

powerful people uncomfortable by sniffing around for the truth.

I don't know what the complete truth about 9/11 is, but I am 100% sure that the story we were fed by Cheney and his 40 thieves is complete hogwash.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
14. Mixing unfounded conspiracy theories with an anti-war message
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

damages the anti-war message.

I'm strongly anti-war so please don't do that.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
15. You don't think there are conspiracies by war profiteers, fascists and...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 07:41 PM
Jul 2015

...secret agencies to create wars?

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
16. Conspiracy is a very broad word.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jul 2015

The world is full of conspiracies, including the efforts to promote both Iraq wars based on hoaxes: WMD's and incubator babies in those wars. Those aren't unfounded conspiracy theories, but are facts.

Just because there are conspiracies doesn't mean one should fall for every baseless conspiracy theory that comes along, such as the JFK, 9-11, Sandy Hook, and many other impossible conspiracies theories. That would be foolish.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
17. Have you read James Douglass' book, "JFK and the Unspeakable:
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jul 2015

Why He Died and Why It Matters"?

Until you do, you really can't say anything about "every baseless conspiracy theory that comes along." Those who pursued this investigation through the decades were scorned just like you are doing now--scorned, ostracized, marginalized, ignored and heaped with abuse. What Douglass establishes is that most of them were RIGHT. It was an internal conspiracy and murder, and he nails the culprits up through the CIA to Richard Helms, CIA operations chief. His research is impeccable; his conclusions are utterly convincing. He solves every part of the mystery, including why they did it (and that was the nuclear war they wanted with Russia).

You also don't seem to understand the implications of President Eisenhower's warning against the "military-industrial complex." I suggest you read or view that speech and ask yourself about all that has happened since that time to keep this country at war--from the CIA's secret machinations in Vietnam to their funding and arming of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, to the Reaganites' secret, treasonous activities in Iran and Nicaragua, and onward to our recent wars and to our current wars and preliminaries to wars (arming, funding armies in Syria, Yemen, Libya, Ukraine). You don't think that the people who profit from war wouldn't kill for that profiteering opportunity? Wouldn't kill anybody who threatened to obstruct their war plans? Wouldn't create "false flag" horrors like 9/11?

I would just say to you, don't be naive. We must evaluate any information as reasonably as we can, and we must also look out for scam conspiracists, who may be being paid to deliberately obscure the truth using disinformation techniques. Skepticism is good. But skepticism needs to be applied with special force against those who profiteer from war and from our naivete about war and its profiteers. These are very dangerous propagandists.

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