Olberman July 22, 2008: Obama will let ''Bush's Crimes Remain Buried For All Time''

[Octafish]

Wish I'd seen that episode. The least my local TV Guide could have done was give me the heads-up.

[niyad]

1. it bears repeated watching

[bvar22]

2. Not fair to blame just Obama.

The entire Democratic Party, beginning with Nancy Pelosi (then Speaker of the House) is responsible for letting these World Class Murders & Crooks run free.


You know, at one time, the USA had an "Opposition Party".
NOW, its ALL "You cover my ass, and I'll cover yours,
and FUCK the citizens of America and the World."
THIS is ALL about US, and ONLY us.

Justice=Just Us



You will know them by their WORKS!

[roguevalley]

3. given that Obama leads the party, I blame him. Add this to the list

that Holder didn't investigate on the way to his eight figure salary.

[bvar22]

4. The Democrats regained the majority in Congress in 2006,

...two years before Obama was elected. THAT was when Pelosi took investigations of criminality in the Bush Administration "off the table".
THAT set the precedent.

...and , YES, the leader always must shoulder the blame.
President Obama certainly should have known better than to "pal around" with World Class Mass Murders like Bush & entourage.

[sabrina 1]

24. I remember when Pelosi took war crimes 'off the table'. We were told that we had to wait until

we 'had the Senate and the WH' that Congress couldn't do it alone. So we did that. Then we were told we were 'moving forward'.

That is when people began to see the whole picture for the first time.

[Maedhros]

32. Top-level Democrats lie to us again, and again, and again, in the most blatant manner possible.

And we reward them with puppy-like loyalty.

[truedelphi]

28. Yep, during the months of Spring 2007, Congress was just

Too damn busy to handle dealing with the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld war crimes.

However the Democratic majority Congress did have the time to recalibrate the postal rates. They helped Amazon to a really nice big piece of For Profits Pie.

Amazon now has their deliveries handled by the US Postal Service, even on Sundays! At a reduced rate. (Which is why they can offer their shipping free to the consumer.)
Who pays? We in the small business world have to pony up to make up for the deep discounts Congress offered Amazon.

Clearly it was far too important to the leading members of Congress to help out Jeff Bezos, rather than make the Bush Administration pay for their crimes. And I still have no idea of what the quid pro quo for these leading members happened to be? But it would not at all surprise me to find out their families can get cozy and "no work required" executive level positions at Amazon for the next Millenium!

[heaven05]

16. of course you would

no surprise..........

[haikugal]

9. Well put, my thoughts as well! nt

[heaven05]

15. you are correct

Bernie or HRC wouldn't have done any different.

[bvar22]

19. Bernie or HIllary would do the same?

That is a pure GUESS on your part.
I prefer posts supported by reasoned opinions and references.

[heaven05]

21. The political system and the candidate(s)

is all I need as proof of my statement. "Prefer" anything you please, The insulated bubble you're in is sure to burst one day, just don't be close to it....

[bvar22]

34. Still can't support your "guess"?

..but prefer to post diversions instead.
Whatever works for you.

I still prefer reasoned opinions backed with support and references.
You just keep taking shots in the dark if that makes you happy.
At least you don't have to see your "misses".

[heaven05]

37. I don't care what you "prefer"

Is that clear enough for you. America is divided into camps now, racial, political, haves, have some and have not's.. Don't talk to me about division. Actually it seems to be, whatever works for the privileged is what counts. Like you. Typical.

[sabrina 1]

26. No doubt Hillary would have done the same. Bernie otoh, in 2009 with a Dem

Congress and Senate, though now that we know more about the entire 'rigged system' (thank you Elizabeth Warren) might have tried, but most likely would not have had the cooperation of Dems to get the appropriate prosecutions.

Get the MONEY OUT OF POLITICS! The most important issue in this campaign. And one that polls show over 80% of Americans agree with.

THAT, says Joe Biden in agreement with Bernie who admits that one person cannot do much alone, has to be the #1 issue in this campaign, because Biden says 'until that is accomplished, NOTHING else can be'.

[jalan48]

5. The CIA and the National Security State are the people who actually broke the law.

They did so with the OK of the Bush Administration. When Obama took office many of the same people were in the government, they didn't change with a new administration. How can you simply prosecute Bush/Cheney without going deeper into the mess? All the underlings who went along with it. It's a colossal can of worms Obama wouldn't open because the fact is, it would have exposed what the National Security State is doing in our name, and has been doing for decades. Not to mention that these folks have information on everyone, including Obama. Remember when they eavesdropped on the Senate Committee investigating them?

[KeepItReal]

6. Anyone remember the transition when Pres-Elect Obama went to WH?

President Bush came out of that meeting with President Elect Obama looking like he didn't have a care in the world.

I knew then, there'd be no consequences for Bush & Co.

[Hydra]

10. Just part of the Family now

I also remember how the inauguration was- you could tell the Bush Admin felt like it was in good hands.

[stupidicus]

7. it only goes to show you -- bipartisanship more often than not

means the rest of us are getting screwed.

[silvershadow]

8. Shout out to Octafish, a DU treasure! Now, in regards to the post,

can you just imagine if he had tried? My God, they'd have gotten to him before he could get to the safety of JFK's limousine. But I sure get your point. I too, am quite disappointed that it does appear Bushco might get off Scot-free. (no offense to the Scottish, I actually don't know where that phrase comes from)

[Hydra]

11. They never would have let him run if he had not already agreed to all that's been done

That said, selling your soul is always your own decision. Someone else(Hillary?) would have been happy to do it in his place, but that does no absolve the one who does it.

[haikugal]

12. .

scot-free (adj.) Look up scot-free at Dictionary.com
Old English scotfreo "exempt from royal tax," from scot "royal tax," from Old Norse skot "contribution," literally "a shooting, shot; thing shot, missile," from PIE *skeud- "to shoot, chase, throw" (see shoot (v.); the Old Norse verb form, skjota, has a secondary sense of "transfer to another; pay&quot + freo (see free (adj.)). First element related to Old English sceotan "to pay, contribute," Dutch schot, German Schoß "tax, contribution." French écot "share" (Old French escot) is from Germanic.

[Marty McGraw]

13. Bvar22 Also a DU Treasure!

Didn't know that about Scot-Free but it seems we're more knowledgeable about Hillbilly & Redneck roots these days

http://www.scotshistoryonline.co.uk/rednecks/rednecks.html

[iandhr]

14. If anyone actually expected something like that to happen

they are extremely naïve

[dougolat]

20. Ah, but "Hope & Change"

and fresh oaths to uphold the Constitution
made the possibility seem real,
even if in some limited manner.

Agreed, naive.

[iandhr]

22. Pulling ground troops out of two countries

A Health care bill that has befuddled every Presdient since Turman. Ending DADT. I call that hope and change. Oh yeah Marrige Equalty too.

I actually listened when he said "the change I seek might not happen in my life time" it means that battle never ends.


We still have more work to do. An example would be a national non discrimination law to protect our LGBT citizens from being fired from there jobs for who.

[Doctor_J]

25. Clinton could have passed heritage care in 1994 when Gingrich proposed it. luckily

There were enough real dems in government then to spike it. Obama is a Gingrich republican, and so is Hillary.

[iandhr]

36. To compare our President to Newt Gingrich is the stupidest thing I have ever heard here.

[seafan]

17. "Money trumps peace (AND justice), sometimes."

Smirk.

Bet that huge Bush spread in Paraguay is still there in case it's needed on short notice.

Thanks for giving a damn, Octafish.

We will get to the other side of this madness; of that I have no doubt.

[zebonaut]

18. Why the hell did they replace the great Olbermann with Mr Narcolepsy Chris Hayes?

[Doctor_J]

23. And more of the same coming with Hillary

I don't think I'm going to vote for her. It won't make any difference but I at least won't be an accomplice

[onecaliberal]

27. I saw it when it first aired.

I just remember becoming so disillusioned. POTUS Obama has been fantastic on so many levels. But this, I believe, is a stain on his presidency and our nation. War criminals are not only walking free but are celebrated by a frightening amount of people.

[Lil Missy]

29. It would have been counterproductive and ill-advised to the extreme

His job was to run the country, not to make DU happy.

[Octafish]

30. His job is to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

That includes the laws of the land -- and that extends to investigating and prosecuting traitors, war criminals, warmongers, war profiteers, and banksters.

As for making DU happy, that would come naturally from the above.

[Maedhros]

33. You can pound your head against this issue all day long, and get nowhere.

Hillary/Obama supporters are fighting with the Republicans over a trinket called "the White House." This thing called "the Constitution" is not nearly as shiny.

Remember: how we feel about the President is so much more important than what he actually does.

[Maedhros]

31. "Let?" Obama is actively involved in the cover-up. [n/t]