Video & Multimedia
Related: About this forumSupreme Court overturns landmark EPA air pollution rule
From The Hill:
The Supreme Court dealt a blow to the Obama administrations landmark air quality rule on Monday, ruling the Environmental Protection Agency did not properly consider the costs of the regulation.
In a 5-4 ruling, the justices ruled that the EPA should have taken into account the costs to utilities and others in the power sector before even deciding whether to set limits for the toxic air pollutants it regulated in 2011.
The case, Michigan v. EPA, centers on the EPAs first limits on mercury, arsenic and acid gases emitted by coal-fired power plants, known as mercury and air toxics (MATS). Opponents, including the National Federation of Independent Business, say it's among the costliest regulations ever issued.
The EPA estimated its rule, which took effect for some plants in April, would cost $9.6 billion, produce between $37 billion and $90 billion in benefits and prevent up to 11,000 premature deaths and 130,000 asthma cases annually.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/246423-supreme-court-overturns-epa-air-pollution-rule
On the upside, Obamacare covers asthma...
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)when we are in the process of turning the earth into a burnt cinder. We don't just need to get religion out of politics, we need to get economics out.
MiaCulpa
(765 posts)I agree, the economics should not have been a factor. Clean air should be a human right, not an expense for the poor polluting corporations to use as an issue to get legal rulings in their favor.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)And I agree environmental rights are human rights. The human costs should be at the top of the list of considerations, not missed altogether.
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)turbinetree
(24,720 posts)right wingers on this court don't think that just a tad of arsenic and mercury in the air supply, and the pesky acid rain polluting the same water that we all drink and the fish and other aquatic forms of survival that is harvested from the lakes, streams and oceans don't mean much.
It just goes to show they also don't breath the same air we all breath on this blue marble in space and its doesn't mean much.
And then there is this:
"Opponents, including the National Federation of Independent Business, say it's among the costliest regulations ever issued."
I don't think so when I have to pay for your mess with my health care costs--------jerks
I guess the pollution industry with the help of this corrupt court can tell all of us on this planet if they would drink the water from the Dan River---------for starters, if its not to much trouble.
Then if that's not good enough, lets see if they would like to have they eaten any shrimp from the Gulf Coast region-----------I haven't --------------I quit eating shrimp from anywhere on this planet.
Gotta, give a great big thanks for BP oil and any other polluters out there on that one, it was only about 280 million barrels of oil.
And finally maybe they can go ask the Koch Brothers ( since they are part of this federation) if they would like to stand down wind from the coke ash they have planted along the lake in Michigan for about a year, and see if they like the thought they are breathing in arsenic and mercury from there wastes they produce--just for starters.
Then, this same court rules through its litmus test of reasoning that since there is "no dollar amount " equated in the costs, that everyone that comes down with all these health issues is no big deal.
I guess they didn't see the video in North Carolina on what a coal fired generator does with all of its sludge like arsenic, mercury being dumped into the Dan River:
http://www.wunderground.com/news/north-carolina-coal-ash-spill-20140206
Go Bernie -----------this election is about the U.S. Supreme court
Honk-------------for a political revolution
Sanders 2016
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)the biggest danger from SCOTUS is--imho--its favoritism toward the business community. Social justice is not in as much danger as any right that threatens some company's bottom line.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)cprise
(8,445 posts)...so that immediately provable damages in terms of dollars are the only admissible evidence or criteria for environmental regulation.
imo it is all part of the rampant free-market ideology: the invisible hand will fix everything, so we just need to get out of the way and let it work. It's all Magic Beans! and environmental regulation is the biggest single challenge to this mindset. If our whole system operates solely on the profit motive, how can we address air or water pollution, or climate change? Dealing with those things cost money, they don't make it...value to society be damned.
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)how much they love their children and how precious they are. Because anyone who doesn't think water and clean air are the most important thing on the planet can forget about the future of their precious (or so you say) kids. I don't have kids but I couldn't imagine doing everything possible to insure their healthy life, regardless of the monetary price.
appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)our environment, our food and us for profit over life. Freedom from pollution and toxins is a right, health is a human right.
cprise
(8,445 posts)Hmmm. That what the new ruling basically says... you can't put a dent in a polluter's business with silly little rules to protect health.
Doesn't matter if you're in the fundamentally unsustainable business: Only profitable rules are allowed!
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)the only cost of pollution is money. Is that the SCOTUS math?