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What the one percent does not want you to know (Original Post) greenman3610 Apr 2015 OP
Beautiful, Wonderful,...True progressives have known this all along... ProudProg2u Apr 2015 #1
Saudi Arabia and some other countries in the Middle East are owned JDPriestly Apr 2015 #6
the real meaning of the "ownership" society magical thyme Apr 2015 #2
Time for patient, non-violent organizing of our friends and families. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #7
The old name for that was feudalism. zeemike Apr 2015 #10
Great timely video! yallerdawg Apr 2015 #3
Because 40% of the population is insane, 20% are wishy-washy and malleable to a fault and Moostache Apr 2015 #5
You do realize that to add to those facts our voting machines are routinely manipulated fasttense Apr 2015 #9
High incomes for Bankers, Low income for teachers. This is why inequality exists. midnight Apr 2015 #4
I like Krugman's explanation about the redistribution of wealth in Europe. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #8
+1 zeemike Apr 2015 #11
K&R..... daleanime Apr 2015 #12
I'm Ready For Oligarchy cantbeserious Apr 2015 #13
K&R SamKnause Apr 2015 #14
The #1 thing the rich don't want you to know is they can afford to give you a raise. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #15
http://images.publicradio.org/content/2013/02/20/20130220_traffic-camera_33.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #16
http://www.techspot.com/images/teaser/traffic%20camera.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #17
http://www.wwmt.com/template/ugc/wwmt/1357/4rf05iGo.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #18
http://consciouslifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/US-intelligence-seal-Nothing-Is-Beyond-Our-R blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #19
Nothing is beyond it's reach except the knowledge of how that might ....... nolabels Apr 2015 #20
 

ProudProg2u

(133 posts)
1. Beautiful, Wonderful,...True progressives have known this all along...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:32 PM
Apr 2015

I predict in the future there will be "States" That the Oligarchy literally OWN..and it will be law that only people of certain status will be allowed in..Actually it's already started in Wisconsin to a really,really small extent but the path is clear. Don't think it will be "The Law"...? Think again "citizens united",ect, more and more unjust and terrifying laws based on "legal Bribery" it is a major reason I support Warren/Sanders...or ,we and our children, and grandchildren are doomed...! Hillary is part of the problem certainly not the solution. High paid spin masters can argue all damm day but "SHE IS OWNED...!!!"

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. Saudi Arabia and some other countries in the Middle East are owned
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:30 PM
Apr 2015

by an oligarchy. They hire "help" from poor nations, allow them to enter as what Europeans euphemistically call "Guest Workers," and exploit them. There was a post about that process and its end result on DU yesterday.

The H1-B and migrant worker policies of the US are similar. Invite people in, treat them like rightless non-citizens and then invite them to leave. Underpay them while they are here. Refuse them any political status. Refuse them permanency, and chase them out when their time is up.

That's what living in an oligarchic state will be like. The haves will use the energy of the have-nots and then return the have-nots out to fend in the wide, impoverished world.

We do not have to allow that to happen. And at this point, we do not have to prevent it with violence.

We just have to be careful about who we vote for at all levels of government. And progressives need to work, talk to people one on one and not just join demonstrations. Demonstrations have a very limited effect. They can draw attention to a burning issue for a short time. But the real organizing is in drawing like-minded people together and then going out to your neighbors and friends and talking about why they and you need to elect progressive candidates and not compromise on this.

This kind of campaigning is especially needed in the South and in the conservative midwestern states. There is no substitute for it. And anger has no place in it. Moral courage, not anger, is the key.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
2. the real meaning of the "ownership" society
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:32 PM
Apr 2015

the 0.1% will own everything. we breathe, eat, drink, take up space, at their pleasure.

time for a revolution.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
10. The old name for that was feudalism.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:41 PM
Apr 2015

Where you lived and worked at the pleasure of the Manor house, who owned all the land.
That is our future and we are very close to it now.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. Great timely video!
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:33 PM
Apr 2015

Moyers, Krugman, Piketty and facts! A perfect storm!

As long as the servants of the 1% are given control in Congress by a complacent blissfully unaware ignorant manipulated electorate, this will go on.

They are 1%. We are 99%. How do they keep winning?



Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. Because 40% of the population is insane, 20% are wishy-washy and malleable to a fault and
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:30 PM
Apr 2015

the rest are Democrats, about as easy to get to consensus as a herd of cats.

The 1% also is extremely adept at using their play things - like media outlets and political candidates - to get what THEY want and to convince big %'s of the electorate that the "REAL" thieves are not trust fund brats, or hedge fund sociopaths or greedy corporate "persons"...the "REAL" problem is the poor and you bastards holding onto the middle class by a fingernail better start showing more respect or YOU WILL BE THE PROBLEM NEXT...

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
9. You do realize that to add to those facts our voting machines are routinely manipulated
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:37 PM
Apr 2015

to give the oligarchy the results they are expecting.

So, it's going to take a hole lot more than voting and politics to change from this feudal lords of America path we have taken.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
4. High incomes for Bankers, Low income for teachers. This is why inequality exists.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:58 PM
Apr 2015

Things to fix-compensation. Think of Denmark that has high taxes but amazing returns for all it's citizens, the poor, elderly, and entry level jobs that pay high minimum wages.

We need to find politically leaders that will listen to this economist, and others who coach for more equitable taxation.


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. I like Krugman's explanation about the redistribution of wealth in Europe.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:43 PM
Apr 2015

I lived in Europe for a number of years. My husband was teaching, and we lived on the economy of the Europeans with slightly less pay and fewer long-term advantages.

But still, I could see that the redistribution of wealth consists of excellent public transportation systems, really good pre-schools and education (although the teachers my children had were not as good as American teachers, the system was so much better), secure knowledge of a pension, excellent affordable healthcare (but not as many private rooms in hospitals -- at that time, longer stays in hospitals I note), clean streets, all kinds of public investment that Americans could not imagine.

Imagine a wonderful museum that is subsidized to a great extent from public funds. In my community, a large, wealthy group of people, a private foundation or organization, just bought up the assets of a museum including the building and decided to move the assets -- the museum's collection to a more affluent area. How disgusting can you get. In Europe, the museum would probably have been saved for our community by government money. If you think about the castles in Europe, many are privately owned, but the castles of the kings and queens, Versailles, the Hofburg, etc. are publicly owned and cared for. The treasures of the past are the public responsibility. Europeans pay for these great monuments out of tax money.

We let many of our great monuments deteriorate. I am proud to say that so far, Los Angeles has saved its wonderful central library. I am wondering how our beautiful Union Station will fare as a new facility is built in back of it. (That's my understanding.)

The sad thing is that we are sinking into more and more oligarchy and our oligarchy is so lacking in "class" in the popular sense of the world. There is no sense of refinement, no aesthetic sense, no social responsibility as a rule in our oligarchy. It is pretty crass. Sorry but that is my opinion. A pretty crass, egocentric bunch.

How can we have such extreme wealth in Los Angeles and so many homeless people sleeping under our bridges and in our arroyos? That is not a good sign when we think that the people who own that extreme wealth are likely to become even more entrenched in their positions.

The Roosevelts were moved in part by their religious beliefs to help the poor and care about others. I do not see that influence taken seriously by today's oligarchs. They may profess a religion, but their faith does not seem to move them to care for the least wealthy and most needy among us.

I would like to add to my rant that I fully support the call for free college education for all Americans who can qualify based on their academic work for college. I think that would do more to raise the standards of the performance of our children in schools than any other measure.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
20. Nothing is beyond it's reach except the knowledge of how that might .......
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 09:06 AM
Apr 2015

be the impetus of it's own downfall

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