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Sen. Sanders on The O'Reilly Factor (Original Post) cal04 Apr 2015 OP
He's a better man than me. If I ever got on that show, I'd just chant... onehandle Apr 2015 #1
I love Bernie Plucketeer Apr 2015 #2
Does he really have a viewership or is it Murdoch money keeping Cleita Apr 2015 #8
Are you suggesting that Rupert "buys" Neilson ratings? Plucketeer Apr 2015 #14
I really don't know what to think. But considering our market based economy today, Cleita Apr 2015 #16
Clueless, SamKnause Apr 2015 #3
I would rejoice if a hell of a lot worst happen to that damn fascist bastard. olegramps Apr 2015 #6
But that is what his target audience wants. zeemike Apr 2015 #9
this is true redruddyred Apr 2015 #19
Keep it in perspective though. zeemike Apr 2015 #22
You got O'Reilly's audience dead on right Joe Turner Apr 2015 #35
Bernie can even handle Bill O'Reilly without getting "riled" (attempt at pun intended). JDPriestly Apr 2015 #4
President Obama is obviously so much more intelligent than almost anyone with whom he interacts maddiemom Apr 2015 #7
You are so, so right. I'm supporting Bernie Sanders for 2016. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #11
Right! maddiemom Apr 2015 #12
And then the question arises as to whether we have capitalism or some form of corporatism. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #13
"The average U.S. citizen has never had the advantage of an education that admits that..."" redruddyred Apr 2015 #20
The "ten foot tall cry baby" is so damned delusional... Hulk Apr 2015 #5
Spot on as to Billo. Unfortunately his "Foxfans" will never "get it." maddiemom Apr 2015 #10
and the best he can do is "be somebody to a bunch of stooges" Joe Turner Apr 2015 #36
I give Mr. Sanders props for being articulate and poised in the face of extreme douche baggery, but Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #15
I agree. I wish our spokespersons would boycott them like apparently the RW Cleita Apr 2015 #17
I don't want to boycott them Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #27
You and I both know that would be edited. Stephanie Miller and Thom Cleita Apr 2015 #29
Sneak in your own audio recorder and record the whole thing yourself. Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #30
What good does that do? Their version goes nationwide and your version goes Cleita Apr 2015 #31
It does more good than playing their game, in my opinion Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #34
our comedians are the only ones who have ever done so skillfully redruddyred Apr 2015 #21
I don't believe Franken ever went on Fox Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #26
I watch a recording of that book seminar redruddyred Apr 2015 #28
Franken doesn't get enough credit for being one of the first to really challenge Faux on their lies Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #32
I honestly wasn't paying that much attention back then. redruddyred Apr 2015 #33
I agree on principle but there are other reasons to go on Fox (or most of the other right-wing media salib Apr 2015 #24
I don't necessarily want to see a boycott of Fox Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #25
how is lack of political corruption, affordable uni and health care a "big government vision"? redruddyred Apr 2015 #18
F#*k Bilow bahrbearian Apr 2015 #23

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. He's a better man than me. If I ever got on that show, I'd just chant...
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 12:30 PM
Apr 2015

'Falafel Loofah, Falafel Loofah, Falafel Loofah, Falafel Loofah...'

...over and over until he yelled 'Cut his mike...!'

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
2. I love Bernie
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 12:42 PM
Apr 2015

My feelings about Bill-O are 180 degrees opposite. Bill-O could have Christ as a guest and badger and interrupt him to make him (Bill-O) superior. Ignorance and arrogance and a determined blind eye to history are O'Lielly's strengths. And yet, it's his viewership that keeps his ugly mug on the air every evening. Bill-O couldn't hold a CANDLE to Bernie's integrity!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. Does he really have a viewership or is it Murdoch money keeping
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 02:47 PM
Apr 2015

him on their air because he says what Rupert likes?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
16. I really don't know what to think. But considering our market based economy today,
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:39 PM
Apr 2015

where everything is for sale, our politicians, our religious leaders, our radio, TV and other media and soon our water and maybe even our air, I wouldn't be surprised.

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
3. Clueless,
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 12:49 PM
Apr 2015

condescending, smirking, arrogant, uniformed, misinformed, asshole.

I hope he takes pleasure in the damage he has caused this country with his lies and hate.

I hope he chokes and gags a little every time he cashes a check.

Fox viewers really are the worst the U.S. has to offer.

If only the mainstream media had held them accountable.

Instead unfortunately, they seem to have morphed into their own versions of Fox 'news'.

How grateful I am for the internet and independent media.

Bernie you rock.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
9. But that is what his target audience wants.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 02:56 PM
Apr 2015

Because that is how they are and he reinforces how they feel.
They are basically insecure people and they perceive being an asshole as showing strength...it is common in all bullies.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
4. Bernie can even handle Bill O'Reilly without getting "riled" (attempt at pun intended).
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 01:17 PM
Apr 2015

Bernie is up there with Obama in terms of keeping his cool and staying on topic. The marks of two very brilliant people. Wow! Bernie is THE COOLEST OF THE CANDIDATES. A straight-talker, on topic and very caring.

That was extremely impressive. Someone who can talk with Bill O"Reilly without losing it is focused and steady. What we need in our president.

I'm proud to be a volunteer for Bernie Sanders.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
7. President Obama is obviously so much more intelligent than almost anyone with whom he interacts
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 02:44 PM
Apr 2015

among his detractors, that it's truly humorous. Keeping his "cool" doesn't put much of a strain on him, I'm sure. No president in my lifetime has been as fast on his feet since JFK, who grew up with far more advantages. High intelligence and supreme self-confidence have served Obama well. Bernie Sanders is a very different person, yet one of the few in political office to admit to Socialism, but, sadly, still must run as an Independent. The average U.S. citizen has never had the advantage of an education that admits that almost all the best things our nation offers are Socialistic in origin (yes, I grew up in a largely Scandinavian family). FDR died about the same time I was born, but took a lot of flack as a "traitor to his class". He was. of course, revered in my family. The Kennedys seem to have been (except for possibly a couple of Rockefellers) the last of the one percenters who felt they had an obligation to pay it forward.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. You are so, so right. I'm supporting Bernie Sanders for 2016.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:23 PM
Apr 2015

It's time Americans hear his point of view.

Americans confuse communism and socialism. Bernie is far from being a communist. No way is he in favor of government doing everything.

I don't consider myself to be a socialist either, but government needs to function well and represent all of us. So far, Bernie Sanders is the only candidate I trust to stand for that principle. I have listened to him for a while. He seems to support a strong government with a strong private sector. I think that is a good combination.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
12. Right!
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:57 PM
Apr 2015

The confusion in this country regarding Socialism and Communism is sad. As a retired teacher, I've seen many other teachers try to explain the difference between Communism and Socialism (objectively); it flies completely over most kids' heads, as does much else. The terms become mixed up together as "anti-American." Capitalism is American? It mostly was when sensibly counterbalanced with worker protection. Outsourcing, union busting...out of hand today with a generation feeling more and more that they have no future. A college education makes little difference.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. And then the question arises as to whether we have capitalism or some form of corporatism.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:01 PM
Apr 2015

Can you realistically start a company that will grow and make and offer good services and products in today's market that is overwhelmed by the megacorporations? It's getting tougher every day.

Most of the smaller companies in the US produce specialty products but have little hope of growing large enough to compete with the big corporations. If they have a truly new technology, maybe they have a chance. But even then, the chances are not what they were at the time our Constitution was written and throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
20. "The average U.S. citizen has never had the advantage of an education that admits that...""
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:57 PM
Apr 2015

"that admits that almost all the best things our nation offers are Socialistic in origin"

this is on purpose tho.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
5. The "ten foot tall cry baby" is so damned delusional...
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 02:07 PM
Apr 2015

...it's really hard to listen to such an egotistical butt. he and trump are twins. they both firmly believe they are something "special"....well, they are; total turd balls that smell to high heaven yet get adoration from the loonies on the right.

bill is such a "little man". he really wants to be "somebody"; and the best he can do is "be somebody to a bunch of stooges". That's it.

Yeah...you and Senator Sanders on the same ticket...that would make a lot of sense. What a clown.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
10. Spot on as to Billo. Unfortunately his "Foxfans" will never "get it."
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 03:04 PM
Apr 2015

But Trump? Somehow I'm missing a groundswell of Trump supporters. I'm sure he has a website somewhere touting his presidential qualities, but otherwise...???? He has the celebrity and money to blow his own horn continually. Is that what gives him so much airtime? Name any serious supporter!

 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
36. and the best he can do is "be somebody to a bunch of stooges"
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 09:50 PM
Apr 2015

Ouch! You hit a major truth vein there about Brillo man. People were actually smarter 40 years ago. A guy like O'Reilly never would have got a major platform to air his stupidity night after night back in the day. He would have been laughed off as the partisan hack he is. It seems as technology has risen people have lost their powers of reason.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
15. I give Mr. Sanders props for being articulate and poised in the face of extreme douche baggery, but
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:38 PM
Apr 2015

I'm so sick of liberals going on Faux and giving them legitimacy by pretending that they are a serious news channel. The problem with going on O'Liely and having "respectable dialog" with him is that it maintains both the lie and illusion that Faux is a legitimate news channel. Everyone going on O'Liely should call him out for being a blatant, bald-faced liar, not giving him time to foist his propaganda on the American public under the guise of "debate."

It's time to drop the charade. If you're going to go on Faux at all, call them out on their lies. Until then, you're only playing into their hands, even when you articulate yourself well, as Sanders did here.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. I agree. I wish our spokespersons would boycott them like apparently the RW
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:41 PM
Apr 2015

asshats, boycott Rachel and other left leaning media because they are afraid of being asked pertinent follow up questions.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
29. You and I both know that would be edited. Stephanie Miller and Thom
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:48 PM
Apr 2015

Hartmann have both said that when they have gone on O'lielly their comments were edited and taken out of context.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
30. Sneak in your own audio recorder and record the whole thing yourself.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:51 PM
Apr 2015

They make them quite small these days. Actually, I would never do any interview with the corporate media without making my own copy of it. If they tried to say you illegally recorded them, I would just say how did I do that when it was a news interview in which we had both already consented to be recorded?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
31. What good does that do? Their version goes nationwide and your version goes
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:53 PM
Apr 2015

maybe on Facebook. I also think there might be legal issues with copyrights and such.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
34. It does more good than playing their game, in my opinion
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:59 PM
Apr 2015

Plus, if you're big enough to get on Faux, more than a few people might check out your youtube vid of it. Especially if it clearly shows them lying or selectively editing. Those things have a tendency to make the rounds on the internet.

As for copyright, if Faux has already aired it, there's nothing they can do. You can claim Fair Use as long as you aren't profiting from it.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
26. I don't believe Franken ever went on Fox
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:19 PM
Apr 2015

Maybe he did a long time ago, but what Franken did was call out O'Reilly publicly during a book seminar in which poor Billo for once didn't control the mike. And Billo was humiliated, you could tell that by the way he reacted. And all Franken really had him on was that O'Reilly had lied about receiving a Peabody. Billo has since been exposed as a much bigger liar than that.

Ever since then, I'm pretty sure Franken has been blacklisted from Fox, especially after he beat them in the lawsuit they tried against him. I want to see more people do what Franken did: call them out on their lies. Not pretend to have a serious debate with a news organization that is anything but.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
28. I watch a recording of that book seminar
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:24 PM
Apr 2015

once a year for librul pride also the lulz.
I believe franken wrote an entire book abt what a lying lying liar o'reilly is.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
32. Franken doesn't get enough credit for being one of the first to really challenge Faux on their lies
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:55 PM
Apr 2015

Prior to that, it seemed like everybody was afraid of them. But Franken had the guts to come out and say The Emperor Wears No Clothes. After he did that, many other people followed. But Franken was one of the first.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
33. I honestly wasn't paying that much attention back then.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:59 PM
Apr 2015

but for a guy who is accused of incivility deffo made a significant contribution to our public discourse.

salib

(2,116 posts)
24. I agree on principle but there are other reasons to go on Fox (or most of the other right-wing media
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:03 PM
Apr 2015

If you want to reach ALL of the nation's voters, you are going to have to go on these shows.

A good friend of mine and very motivated Democratic candidate for Congress in south central Texas went to all the super right-wing mega churches to present his positions. Yeah, I know. Is this even "legal" for them to then claim tax exempt status? But, he had to if he expected to reach that audience. His Republican opponent was of course there earlier and so likely most of these people would likely never get the chance to hear from him otherwise. Plus, it showed that he "respected" them, at least so far as recognizing they exist. Perhaps, acknowledged them would be a better word.

Still, there are compelling reasons that are worth the discussion and I could see how Sen Sanders could come down on the side of showing up on O'Reilly.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
25. I don't necessarily want to see a boycott of Fox
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:13 PM
Apr 2015

I want people who go on it to call them out on their lies. If I was going to go on O'Reilly, the first thing I would do is call him a liar. I would ask him to explain his lies. If he cut me off and ended the interview right then, I would leave happy, knowing that I got under his skin.

What I'm tired of is people who know better going on Fox and pretending to have a serious debate with them. It gives them the credibility they yearn for and continues the charade that they are a news organization or have anything of value to say to anyone other than mindless propaganda.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
18. how is lack of political corruption, affordable uni and health care a "big government vision"?
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:53 PM
Apr 2015

thought it was 'democracy'.
what a silly little girl am I.

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