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drynberg
(1,648 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)joshdawg
(2,651 posts)like he was the only one who was correct in his assessment of history.
Shove it, Ron!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Like a kind of rictus.
He's a Cheney bot, what a useless POS
barbtries
(28,811 posts)but to say that in the future they will experience and express shame over these terrible statements? ain't gonna happen. they're sociopaths who do not know how to feel shame.
avebury
(10,952 posts)If this agreement holds up over time, the Republicans will never ever state publicly that they were wrong.
George II
(67,782 posts)barbtries
(28,811 posts)and they get away with it.
chapdrum
(930 posts)our country - too bad about that.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I was standing up and cheering....Tweety wins!
catbyte
(34,447 posts)Ron a new one over Hitler. Good for him.
JHB
(37,161 posts)Or did Tweety do that too with someone else?
catbyte
(34,447 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)...the world would a slightly saner place.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)got slapped the fuck, DOWN!!!!! I like Matthews on this one.
samsingh
(17,601 posts)chapdrum
(930 posts)"with everyone's lives" because they can. That's so nice for them, and the tens of millions that consistently vote for them.
samsingh
(17,601 posts)Leith
(7,813 posts)"You guys keep spouting off! You're always wrong! wrong! wrong! And you never come back and apologize!"
Tweety was on fire!
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)I usually can't stand either Chris Matthews or David Axelrod, but both of them were on point and very eloquent. They had valid points and made them well. Of course the bar was set pretty low by Ron Christie, who is a notorious idiot.
"You neither understand history or this agreement, Ron. You're just spouting Republican talking points." Perfect.
Actually, I would not have clicked in to read anything with Chris Matthews in the headline, but I saw the picture of Ron Christie and thought it would be fun to see what he had to say. He's not quite as hilarious as Frank Gafney, and doesn't have the mustache to be a John Bolton, but he can be counted on to display his proclivity as a wind-up toy.
chapdrum
(930 posts)Agree with your caricature references. So many of them, but off the top, two favorites are Jack(ass) Kingston, Rep. from GA, and John Fund from the WSJ.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)they allowed the Republicans to lay all of the blame for the financial crisis and Trillion dollar deficit on Obama. They stood by and didn't say a damn thing which lead to the Control of Congress and even just last year they kept their mouth shut and didn't say anything and now they have control of Senate.... the-hell -of it is ..there are Democrats that would not defend Obama the way Mathews just did.
groundloop
(11,522 posts)I've long felt that Democrats, in general, do a piss poor job of touting their accomplishments. I get it that President Obama is generally a humble person and I have great respect for that, but IMO we'd have been far better when healthcare reform was on the table had he tooted his own horn a lot more often. Likewise, I think he could have done a lot more of advertising his accomplishments leading up to mid-term elections.
And as for Congressional Democrats, they're often downright chicken-shits. As you quite correctly pointed out they turned tail and ran away from President Obama during the mid-terms - HUGE mistake. It's as though they're STILL afraid to be called LIBERAL by repub bullies. We can't keep running away from our LIBERAL accomplishments and expect to win many elections, and the downstream issue is that this will allow any progress we make to be reversed.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)is just another "debit" side of the Koch Bro's ledger.
We could start by and should have already done so replacing the Republican lite Debbie Shultz as DNC chair.
Anyone that would allow her home state Democratic Party to be run by Republi-Chirstine Harris-crats needs to be replaced
panfluteman
(2,066 posts)And regress back to nothing more than a knee jerk reiteration of their talking points to assure themselves of their own superiority in the national security / foreign affairs arena. They are living in an alternate reality now, and no confrontation with the facts will change their minds. Instead of being the best in national security and foreign affairs, the facts of recent history will reveal that the Republicans actually have the worst track record imaginable. 911, the greatest national security failure in US history, happened on their watch, but they make an exception to that, and never include that fact in their calculations and score keeping. And the most disastrous, costly and unnecessary foreign war in US history, the Iraq War, was also instigated by them. The Republicans can just ignore the facts and invoke Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of the Nazis if their goal is to go to war with Iran, which it probably is. Heck - the religious right is waving their Israeli flags and is hell bent on Armageddon, and the defense contractors are chomping at the bit for some fresh red meat. The US and its allies didn't give up anything significant in this nuclear deal, but the Iranians made a whole s#*tload of concessions - and those are the facts. If we listen to these right wing whack jobs and let them railroad us into war despite all evidence to the contrary, we will have snatched war from the jaws of peace, and defeat from the jaws of victory.
bonniebgood
(943 posts)groundloop
(11,522 posts)Bottom line is the guy's a repub idiot.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)Can't say that I'm surprised he's spewing that BS. Good on Tweety for calling him out.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)a) That Obama made a bad deal, which will allow Iran to create nuclear weapons?
b) That Obama made a good deal, which will avert another costly war in the Middle East?
The CCC
(463 posts)Neither. Their opposed to any deal Obama makes with any country for any reason. All they want is the mass murder of war.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)but the TV was on MSNBC and I caught this segment. He really nailed it.
Can't believe Ron Christie is still around. He must be a go-to conservative when they can't find anyone else. He is as unlikable as he is wrong.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Too bad the rest of the corporate media talking heads don't call out the right wingers on their BS every time.
NCcoast
(480 posts)Neoconservatives believe in the use of 'noble lies'. It is perfectly acceptable for them, the ruling class, to employ deception for the common good as they see it. The common good being whatever is most beneficial to them, the ruling class. They want war in the middle east because it's lucrative, and it helps them control the public through fear mongering and expansion of the police and security state, which is also lucrative. This is what neoconservationism is at it's core.
By saying they're simply wrong about this and that, as if they are actually trying to achieve peace and stability, is a disservice to the public. Misguiding the public into more wars is their objective. They need to be called out for that. The objective is war, and disinformation is a tool for achieving it. They're not in this to make the world safer by some misguided means. They're in it to make money and consolidate power and war is a means to that end.
It's all hiding in plain sight. That's what they need to be called out on.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)3catwoman3
(24,041 posts)...Ron Christie. Arrogance and ignorance is a bad combination. That little head-shaking smirk was reminiscent of Alito at the SOTU when President Obama called out SCOTUS for the Citizens' United travesty.
Well done to both Chris Matthews and David Axelrod.
PrefersaPension
(48 posts)chapdrum
(930 posts)is doing much more than counting his ill-gotten millions.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)Tweety was correct to be angry over these stupid comments
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)punching bag for MSNBC. Praising Matthews for making him look like an idiot is like praising the Pittsburg Steelers for beating a Pop Warner football team.