Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

b.durruti

(102 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 12:29 PM Mar 2015

US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation



Shocking and insightful videos detailing the neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, ultra-nationalist movement in Ukraine. The videos examine the ongoing US support of these groups, including the Svoboda party and Right Sector.

Visit http://stpeteforpeace.org for more info.
18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation (Original Post) b.durruti Mar 2015 OP
Blame our resident NeoCon who likes to piss on the EU and NATO. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2015 #1
Yeah, right Duckhunter935 Mar 2015 #2
Funny that some people here don't seem to care about the iandhr Mar 2015 #3
yeah, funny that. Almost makes you think they uhnope Mar 2015 #8
The fact that you're comparing the two means ... MattSh Mar 2015 #10
Russia is much more fascist than Ukraine could ever become. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #18
Pure BS from a fake "peace" group fronting for fascist Russia uhnope Mar 2015 #4
What an ugly smear of St. Pete for Peace. They are the real deal. ~nt~ b.durruti Mar 2015 #17
Oh, baloney! ColesCountyDem Mar 2015 #5
Timothy Snyder? Please... MattSh Mar 2015 #9
According to whom? ColesCountyDem Mar 2015 #12
The fact that he's been one of the USA's biggest cheerleaders... MattSh Mar 2015 #15
You assume my only source of information is the US media. ColesCountyDem Mar 2015 #16
hilarious post uhnope Mar 2015 #13
<Shrug> No surprise, really. They have a lot in common with Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #6
Bullshit Plucketeer Mar 2015 #7
We sure are good a picking them salib Mar 2015 #11
b.durruti - It appears that you are new (or new to posting) here... truth2power Mar 2015 #14

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
1. Blame our resident NeoCon who likes to piss on the EU and NATO.
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 12:34 PM
Mar 2015

Isn't she married to one of the Krystals, or Kagans?

Victoria Nuland, I think.

My question, WHY IS SHE STILL EMPLOYED BY STATE? She is a danger to the world. For failing to clean house of all Bushistas and NeoCons, I blame Rahm Emanuel. He had Obama's ear, and unfortunately, all the bad or poor decisions made by Obama early on lay at Rahm's feet.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
2. Yeah, right
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 12:42 PM
Mar 2015

The US supports the democratically elected government that those groups you mentioned got around 1-2 percent of the vote. You should look at the anti LGBT groups in Russia and now in occupied Crimea. You know the ones Russia supports.

And welcome back

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
10. The fact that you're comparing the two means ...
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:18 PM
Mar 2015

you know absolutely nothing about what's going on in Ukraine.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
4. Pure BS from a fake "peace" group fronting for fascist Russia
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 01:12 PM
Mar 2015

The USA does not support neo-nazis in Ukraine! What BS. That isn't even discussion, it's just blatant garbage

Far right in Ukraine politics is small and getting smaller: http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.com/2015/01/whither-ukrainian-far-right.html

For them to smear Ukraine this way, while they are under attack by the much stronger Russia, is really rather scummy.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
9. Timothy Snyder? Please...
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:14 PM
Mar 2015

He's been just about the worst "scholarly" voice on the whole Ukraine mess.

Stephen Cohen is a much better choice.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
15. The fact that he's been one of the USA's biggest cheerleaders...
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 04:07 AM
Mar 2015

regarding Ukraine makes him suspect.

But maybe you think Snyder's a good guy because you believe everything the US media says about Ukraine.



ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
16. You assume my only source of information is the US media.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 06:00 AM
Mar 2015

That assumption is incorrect. I obtain information from many media sources, from family in Ukraine and from a good friend who works in Kiev. Furthermore, simply because Snyder tells the truth about what is occurring in Ukraine does not make him a US 'cheerleader'.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
13. hilarious post
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 10:32 PM
Mar 2015

Stephen Cohen has discredited himself pretty thoroughly in the last year. He's a disgraceful apologist for fascism and a fucking joke

salib

(2,116 posts)
11. We sure are good a picking them
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

- The Contras
- The Mujahadeen who became al Qaeda and the Taliban
- Syrian Rebels who are joining ISIS/L

Just to name a few.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
14. b.durruti - It appears that you are new (or new to posting) here...
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 02:07 AM
Mar 2015

What is in that video is nothing that I haven't been aware of for over a year because I've been following the events in Ukraine since February of 2014.

You should know that your attempt to bring the truth of the events occurring in Ukraine will be viciously attacked by a certain contingent, here. Of all the subjects that could be discussed, this is the one that must NEVER be allowed to gain even the semblance of a foothold. You might want to ask yourself why that is. What are certain people afraid of?

You might also notice that most responses are in the form of an ad hominem attack, which is utterly worthless, because it doesn't address the issue on its merits.

Thanks for your courage in posting. Here are some phrases to Google, for those who refuse to be intimidated. "debaltsevo cauldron" and "Givi and Motorola".

Oh, and here's an interview with Stephen Cohen where he clearly and simply explains the events in Ukraine, starting in Feb. 2014.











Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Video & Multimedia»US support of violent neo...