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Mushroom cloud Explosion at Donestk (Original Post) lovuian Feb 2015 OP
when? leveymg Feb 2015 #1
From another source lovuian Feb 2015 #3
post this to L b n if possible please leveymg Feb 2015 #6
Could someone else post it lovuian Feb 2015 #11
Is this breaking news? applegrove Feb 2015 #2
I haven't seen our news agency report it lovuian Feb 2015 #5
Another angle Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #4
Yes more videos out there lovuian Feb 2015 #7
That can't be happening now. I can't believe it. applegrove Feb 2015 #8
Artillery hit vacant industrial chemical facility....what chemicals? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #9
Glad it was vacant. Hope nobody was hurt. The poor environment. applegrove Feb 2015 #20
looks nuclear. g-d forbid leveymg Feb 2015 #10
it looked like it to me too lovuian Feb 2015 #12
US would know if it was nuclear... jimlup Feb 2015 #16
More than that, they might keep it secret -- eom. rogerashton Feb 2015 #32
More than that swilton Feb 2015 #39
That's pushing the conspiracy theory further than I would, rogerashton Feb 2015 #40
It depends upon what happened swilton Feb 2015 #44
I think a nuclear explosion would have been brighter and wouldn't have faded so fast WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2015 #42
I found this lovuian Feb 2015 #13
Why are two different people randomly filming the EXACT area? Moostache Feb 2015 #14
The area was being bombed. Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #15
Whoah lovuian Feb 2015 #17
single large explosion - no visible secondaries leveymg Feb 2015 #18
Not an ammo dump. A very big tank of something highly flammable. My bet would be gasoline. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #29
Not *this* kind of mushroom cloud: freshwest Feb 2015 #19
No confirmation, but several sources toddwv Feb 2015 #21
"humanitarian convoy" Russian convoy? or Rebel convoy lovuian Feb 2015 #22
Apparently some Ukrainian field commanders are saying they hit a rebel convoy. toddwv Feb 2015 #23
Ukrainian field commander humor. leveymg Feb 2015 #24
wow it broke his window Voice for Peace Feb 2015 #25
Also seen by NATO satellites from space Jacoby365 Feb 2015 #26
Thanks Jacoby for that photo lovuian Feb 2015 #28
Where did you find this? leveymg Feb 2015 #33
Perhaps the source is dubious Jacoby365 Feb 2015 #36
I saw 4 explosions like this in Vietnam in the spring of '68. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #27
I saw something like it in Shock and Awe of Baghdad lovuian Feb 2015 #30
Interesting and probably it. Warpy Feb 2015 #31
There was a huge explosion much like this after a Ukrainian ballistic missile attack late last year leveymg Feb 2015 #34
That's why I mentioned fuel-air bomb Warpy Feb 2015 #41
Explosion at chemical plant in eastern Ukraine sparks fire Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #35
Per LOCAL reports, it was the Ukrainians taking out lots of Russian missiles. Daemonaquila Feb 2015 #37
LULZ... Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #38
bump...nt Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #43
Finally confirmation from a news ageny lovuian Feb 2015 #45

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
3. From another source
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:31 PM
Feb 2015

Донецк Мощнейший, мать его, взрыв! 08 02 15

The explosion occurred west of Donetsk around 22:50 local time (20:50 GMT) and caused a shock wave that swept the city. In many parts of Donetsk felt a shock and detonation destroyed windows. According to the data of social networks, the explosion was felt even in the neighboring cities of Makeyevka and Gorlovka.

.As of 12:30 a.m. Monday, there was an on-going violent bombardment of Donetsk by cannon artillery and multiple rocket launchers.

As it turned out, the epicenter of the explosion was in the Kuibyshev region, near a Donetsk state chemical factory. The roar and the glow from the blast was so strong that it could be heard and seen are tens of kilometers away by residents of the Textilschik neighborhood.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
11. Could someone else post it
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:36 PM
Feb 2015

I'm not sure of the source that is why I brought it to see if others could confirm it

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
5. I haven't seen our news agency report it
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:32 PM
Feb 2015

I just saw it come up on alternative media
Was wondering if it's true
I don't speak Russian

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
7. Yes more videos out there
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:35 PM
Feb 2015

It reminded me of Baghdad Iraq bombing that was a ammunition supply house

their saying it's a chemical plant

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
16. US would know if it was nuclear...
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:50 PM
Feb 2015

they would be able to detect the fallout radiation.

Then again - if it was - they might just not bother to tell us...

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
40. That's pushing the conspiracy theory further than I would,
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:23 PM
Feb 2015

at least today.

Actually, there could be good reason for keeping it secret, since open acknowledgement could make nuclear war more likely.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
44. It depends upon what happened
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:13 AM
Feb 2015

But I wouldn't rule it out - US special forces cut their teeth on demolition and US Navy Seals started out as UDT (underwater demolition team)....Special forces/CIA operatives are behind the coup in the West....this has happened before.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
42. I think a nuclear explosion would have been brighter and wouldn't have faded so fast
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 04:37 PM
Feb 2015

Plus the fact that the cameras were still working after the shockwave hit indicates there was no EMP. However, if enough flammable stuff were ignited all at once, a fireball like that would seem a likely result.

Also, for the Lost In Translation file; Let's not assume that 'vacant' = 'abandoned' when it could just as easily mean 'nobody working at night', or 'temporarily shut down due to shelling'.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
13. I found this
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:45 PM
Feb 2015

The district chief Kievski of Donetsk, Ivan Prikhodko, wrote on Facebook that the explosion occurred in the village of Peski , west of Donetsk.

I don't know if it is accurate but there it is

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
14. Why are two different people randomly filming the EXACT area?
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:47 PM
Feb 2015

Its a little uncanny for an "accident" to be randomly filmed - in dead center frame - from two opposite directions...

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
18. single large explosion - no visible secondaries
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:58 PM
Feb 2015

As one would expect if it were an ammo dump that went up during a bombardment. Strongly doubt anything nuclear but very powerful blast.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
29. Not an ammo dump. A very big tank of something highly flammable. My bet would be gasoline.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:53 AM
Feb 2015

It's a little faster than the 50,000 gallon avgas tanks I saw cook off one night in Vietnam.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. Not *this* kind of mushroom cloud:
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 10:13 PM
Feb 2015


What can I say... The Russkies and Ukies are not screwing around over there.


toddwv

(2,830 posts)
21. No confirmation, but several sources
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 11:12 PM
Feb 2015

have said a "humanitarian convoy" exploded. That's a pretty hell of a big explosion, not likely nuclear, but still pretty large...

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
22. "humanitarian convoy" Russian convoy? or Rebel convoy
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 11:23 PM
Feb 2015

Serious? what's so combustible with food .....where's the media on this?

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
23. Apparently some Ukrainian field commanders are saying they hit a rebel convoy.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 11:27 PM
Feb 2015

Russia's version of a humanitarian convoy likely includes a fair amount of arms and ammunition.,

Again, no official confirmation.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
33. Where did you find this?
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:20 AM
Feb 2015

Normally, the military doesn't release its own satellite imagery - unless they want to make a point.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
27. I saw 4 explosions like this in Vietnam in the spring of '68.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:50 AM
Feb 2015

I was about 2 miles away & thought they were nukes going off in the 1t Cavalry Division ammo dump. The dump had been hit by 122mm rocket fire, and all sorts of artillery rounds, aerial rocket artillery arounds, flares, illumination rounds, etc. were exploding. I was sitting out on a sandbag bunker watching the show.

Then BOOM! Something just like on that film. I rolled backward off the bunker, convinced I had been nuked.

Turns out it was a 50,000 gallon tank of helicopter fuel (which is basically kerosene) cooked off and vaporized in the heat & exploded.

Over the course of the night, 3 more fuel tanks went off just like that. This was just before the 1st Cav air assaulted into Khe Sanh to dig out the Marines, so the ammo dump was holding about 3 times its normal supply of munitions when it went off.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
30. I saw something like it in Shock and Awe of Baghdad
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 12:56 AM
Feb 2015

in the Iraq war and it was a ammunition depot

Something very combustible

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
34. There was a huge explosion much like this after a Ukrainian ballistic missile attack late last year
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 09:46 AM
Feb 2015

That was during the day, and didn't attract as much western public attention. What we saw last night wasn’t a nuke - the EMP would have knocked out the digital video recorders. The rebels claim Kiev hit a nearby chemical factory with a Ballistic Missile, reportedly a Luna-M.

The same complex was hit last Fall by what was the rebels say was an SS-21 missile. There was a huge explosion close to Donetsk, a city of one million. This war is getting awfully dangerous:

Warpy

(111,354 posts)
41. That's why I mentioned fuel-air bomb
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 02:00 PM
Feb 2015

I know about the EMP frying everything for miles.

I hadn't seen that photo. You're right, it's nasty.

I hate war.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
35. Explosion at chemical plant in eastern Ukraine sparks fire
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:00 AM
Feb 2015

A powerful explosion rocked a chemical plant and set it on fire Monday outside the separatist stronghold of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine. Rebels said the plant was hit by government shelling.

No casualties or damage were immediately reported from the blast, which could be heard in downtown Donetsk. The city lies in the middle of Ukraine's industrial heartland and explosions like this have long been feared.

An armed conflict between Russia-backed separatists and Ukraine government forces has killed more than 5,300 people and displaced more than a million people in eastern Ukraine.

The rebel mouthpiece Donetsk News Agency said Monday the chemical plant to the west of the city was hit by a Ukrainian artillery shell but the fire was put out and it posed no danger.

http://www.kentucky.com/2015/02/09/3685391/chemical-plant-in-eastern-ukraine.html

lulz at western spin

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
37. Per LOCAL reports, it was the Ukrainians taking out lots of Russian missiles.
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 10:14 AM
Feb 2015

Apparently the Russians had 20+ GRAD missiles, launchers, and a bunch of other ammo coming in, all grouped rather tightly. The Ukrainians sent it home, air mail. The explosion was no joke, and could be felt 10s of kilometers away.

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