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"We are living in an age where nothing makes sense. And it is done on purpose." (Original Post) joshcryer Feb 2015 OP
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If we were to accept this premise, what actions do we have for changing this? drynberg Feb 2015 #7
Stop buying into clickbait. joshcryer Feb 2015 #8
This skirts around where the confusion really is coming from - The media newthinking Feb 2015 #9
The media is manipulated by effectively FUD. joshcryer Feb 2015 #10
This really isn't new. Rather the scale of it. It has been happening for many years newthinking Feb 2015 #12
Manufacturing Consent joshcryer Feb 2015 #13
absolutely. It is an art form in this age. newthinking Feb 2015 #15
Interesting premise 90-percent Feb 2015 #11
Yep, everything is about narrative. Hell, that is the function of half this site? newthinking Feb 2015 #14
This site hasn't been known for much substance. joshcryer Feb 2015 #16
Well said, Jimmy. I don't believe in amazing coincidences Enthusiast Feb 2015 #18
Yep you nailed it. zeemike Feb 2015 #21
"For now we see through a glass, darkly"... CJCRANE Feb 2015 #17
So what? Depaysement Feb 2015 #19
We are encouraged to feel rather than think GreatGazoo Feb 2015 #20
DIRECT LINK, PUHLEEEEEZ??!! ellennelle Feb 2015 #22
You Tube Link cantbeserious Feb 2015 #23
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joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
8. Stop buying into clickbait.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:37 AM
Feb 2015

Just ignore it, if you see clickbait crap, then take the title, get a general sense of what it's going for, and search for alternate views.

Don't bite.

It's very similar to creationist or climate change denialism. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Sowing those things causes people to not know WTF is going on, and they believe anything that makes sense, rather than looking at the bigger picture. Yes, creationist arguments and climate denial arguments, in a vacuum, make perfect sense, but they're not true.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
9. This skirts around where the confusion really is coming from - The media
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:38 AM
Feb 2015

Media reporting has become tabloid, shallow, and manipulated.

Investigation has been replaced by narratives. Behind the scenes economic and political powers corrupt or threaten it.

It truly is one of the biggest issues of our time. How do we create dependable and (mostly) truthful media in the modern age? Especially when it is difficult to keep the average viewer's attention long enough to provide depth on a report?

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
10. The media is manipulated by effectively FUD.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:45 AM
Feb 2015

Just throw so much random shit out there no one knows what to think about anything at all. Include, notably, false narratives, and people start "questioning" the "veracity" of a given report. M17 comes to mind.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
11. Interesting premise
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:45 AM
Feb 2015

Ties in with the concept that the people we have running everything only give us stuff to worry and fear about. ISIS, as one example, came to be as a result of America's war crime invasion of Iraq in 2003. This proved the use of the Nazi "Big Lie" to fool all of the world all of the time works exceptionally well in the present day. (And there's mounting evidence Saudi Arabia bankrolled the 9-11 terrorists. Oops, we invaded the wrong country! A mistake criminally incompetent to the point of bona fide treason and war crimes)

We are indeed being bombarded with propaganda and we are being told to think and perceive what the oligarchs want us to think. There does seem to be a never ending stream of the distracting and worrisome crisis of the week. Ebola came and went. Whats up with the investigation of Petreaus? How many more abortion clinics have they shut down in Texas and other religious fundamentalist states? They're coming after our Social Security, like they have since it's inception in the 1930's? Why do they want to take away something so nice for all of us that we fucking pay for via payroll tax in the first place? How come the economy is "getting better" if so many of Obama's economic policies have been blocked by obstructionist sabotage Obama even if you have to wreck America to do it? When will the next Wall Street Bubble burst and are there going to be riots in the streets if the taxpayers have to bail out the Oligarchs within mere months after they nullied that critical part of Dodd-Frank? Isn't this just too blatant and brazen for criminals to make the formally illegal perfectly legal so you can steal billions from the American Taxpayer again? The MIC is brazen also. Now there's rumbles of a new world war triggered by ignorance belligerence fear and stupidity or maybe even more of this stuff from the video? And hasn't our drone program burning alive a lot more people than the poor pilot's murder by burning (full tape including spoken propaganda viewable on fox, I've heard?)

The end result is that by some Amazing Coincidence our Oligarchs are getting even more obscenely and unseemly wealthy by such things as for profit war and Fascist TPP of by and for the multi-national corporations getting shoved down our throats by a complete end run around what's left of our Democratic republic.

-90% Jimmy

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
14. Yep, everything is about narrative. Hell, that is the function of half this site?
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:50 AM
Feb 2015

I am talking about election politics, but it really is the same thing. Once we get to the point where we replace substance with narrative anything is possible.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
16. This site hasn't been known for much substance.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 07:53 AM
Feb 2015

Since at least 2004-2005, imo. Narratives rule the place. CNN headlines literally rule GD on any given day.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
18. Well said, Jimmy. I don't believe in amazing coincidences
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 08:12 AM
Feb 2015

Obviously Saudi Arabia did it at the Neo-Con's behest. But we are not allowed to say that.

It isn't a conspiracy theory if it's true.

Oh, another unmistakable coincidence is the way personal bankruptcy laws were changed right before the meltdown. Geez.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
21. Yep you nailed it.
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 11:06 AM
Feb 2015

And it is noteworthy that this clip focused on Putin...who is the latest one we need to fear and hate.
But says nothing about our own manipulators of reallity...but demonstrates how it is diverted to other concerns.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
17. "For now we see through a glass, darkly"...
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 08:10 AM
Feb 2015

Once you realize that our politicians and media present us with the world through a distorting lens, you start to try to figure what the real image is behind the distortion.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
19. So what?
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 09:52 AM
Feb 2015

We are making progress on social issues and I can buy a great soy latte in the morning and frequent my really amazing whiskey bar with Edison bulbs at night. Who really cares if the peons and proles are backsliding?

Have you been to that new, really great vegetarian Ethiopian restaurant? Let's go sometime. I can show you my new hot idiot app!

















GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
20. We are encouraged to feel rather than think
Sun Feb 8, 2015, 10:39 AM
Feb 2015

"news" is presented without context or memory -- Am-news-ia -- on a screen cluttered with crawling words at the bottom and looping plane crashes in the corner. It overstimulates and by-passes the filters of conscious thought.

Facebook has no button that says "I agree" or "I disagree" -- only "Like"

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