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libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
1. Important...US is upset that there might be peace, because it interrupts our decision about
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 10:31 AM
Feb 2015

how many arms to send in...read, MIC profits. The nerve of those Europeans. RT has photos and video...not propaganda for the Russians.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. So, pick apart the actual video footage and the report. Go ahead...let me know. What is bunk?
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 11:04 AM
Feb 2015

You seem to want to be the retort expert.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
7. no, we don't "pick apart" a Trojan horse made and paid for by the fascist Kremlin. We reject it. nt
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 12:59 PM
Feb 2015
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. First of all...the Fascist Kremlin? And who's in the Castle and who's in the horse?
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:09 PM
Feb 2015

I wasn't responding to you, but this is fascinating. Are you suggesting Merkel and Hollande are a Trojan Horse and Russia is the King of the Castle? It all seems pretty much out in the open to me and it's pretty much now common knowledge...except for the MSM in the US.

And just what exactly are you rejecting? That Europeans can try to solve an international problem with dialogue before the US ponders to send arms and "advisors"?

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
9. RT is the Trojan Horse, run by and paid for the Kremlin, as Putin's Russia develops its own special
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 02:10 PM
Feb 2015

kind of fascism.

Find out a little bit about is going on in Putin's Russia. The homophobic laws, the cult of personality, the closing down of the free press, Putin's years in power that show know end, the use of war and external/internal enemies to consolidate power, the combination of government and corporations/oligarchs in a kleptocracy (Putin is now one of the richest men in the world, did you know that?), the use of government-connected groups, from Nashi to the skinheads, to intimidate, control, harass, and even attack/kill opponents...These are all elements of fascism that are present in Putin's government.

Here's a start:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/putins-way/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101723574

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017242223

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016110943

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016110684

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017229540

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. Good information. But the facts of Hollande and Merkel talking with Russia, sans US, was the issue
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 02:35 PM
Feb 2015

The OP was a news show with important information, especially more so in light of your posts, about Europe dealing with their own problems. Russia is strongly tied economically with the North Europeans so they cannot afford to emphasize whatever the condition of Russia at this time. Kind of like us with the Saudis.

My fear is that the US will stick our noses/taxpayers money/arms willy-nilly into a mix we know little about...just because we can.

And as far as corporations owning the government...I won't go Kleptocracy, but surely Corporatocracy...we're on track here.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. A quick look at the "Western" Press and one finds the exact same story on UK Telegraph
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 11:10 AM
Feb 2015

Christian Science Monitor, AFP, Bloomberg, kyivpost ... no major US news outlets. That's OK, you can read one of them if you feel offended that the OP is from RT.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. First of all, I wasn't the OP. Second of all, not all life is black and white...up and down...good
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 04:53 PM
Feb 2015

or bad. RT is pure evil.

I'll say it again...I've never watched a Thom Hartmann program that I disagreed with. I don't watch regularly and yes it's probably the Russian version of Fox News...the other side. No one tells Fox what to spew out but we know they are run and supported by the RRW. God help us if you judged all of America by that...just sayin'

polly7

(20,582 posts)
5. I don't understand people who not only censor themself, but try to dictate to others
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 11:13 AM
Feb 2015

what is 'readable'. It's like living in a little prison. Adults are smart enough to read something and decide whether it's accurate or not. Most people check out a few sources to verify. I'm assuming you don't think we're capable of doing that.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
13. I suppose that by now you've realized how incorrect your comment was......
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:27 AM
Feb 2015

...by the fact that all the other major networks have caught up to this story.

RT may indeed be ''bunk'' as you call it.

I think they're all bunk.

Including your ''belief'' in bunk.

- The only thing truly objective, is death.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
6. Glad to see the countries talking. Wish we knew what happened with
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 11:22 AM
Feb 2015

Merkel and Hollande in Kiev. Keeping my fingers crossed a diplomatic solution will be found to end the fighting. K&R

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