Putin's allies turning on him, building bridges to the West: Kazakhstan and Belarus go to Kiev

[uhnope]

[jakeXT]

1. Blair is doing a good job

£7m-a-year Tony Blair tells tyrant: This is how you gloss over a massacre

Tony Blair instructed a hardline foreign ruler how to repair his image after his security forces shot dead unarmed protesters.

A leaked letter shows Mr Blair wrote to Kazakhstan’s despot president Nursultan Nazarbayev about how best to talk to the Western media about the massacre of 14 civilians.

Tony Blair Associates – the consultancy firm set up by the former Labour leader after he left Downing Street – is estimated to receive £7million a year for advising Mr Nazarbayev.

The former Labour PM told Mr Nazarbayev the killings in the Kazakh oil town of Zhanaozen in 2011 “should not obscure” progress his Government has made.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/7m-a-year-tony-blair-tells-tyrant-4100264

[DFW]

2. Don't trust Nazarbayev or Lukashenko

They look where the money is. Until the ruble tanked, they were still happy to be resting snugly in Vladimir's pocket. Lukashenko, in particular, is a ruthless SOB who'd be more at home running a Gulag somewhere. These are no friends of ours, and no friends of Ukraine's. Presumably, Poroshenko knew exactly who was coming to dinner.

[KoKo]

6. Thanks for your cautionary reply....

Interesting view of the Wolves seeking Dinner and Favors..

[DFW]

14. One of our best friends was station chief in Moscow for West German radio news for years

He still has a Russian girlfriend, spends many months a year there, knows all the bad guys (not too many good ones). He is our source for what's going on there.

His girlfriend speaks no other language but Russian, so she would be miserable if she moved to the West permanently. She comes to visit him and they travel around, but he spends more time there than she spends here. When they visit us, it's awkward for my wife, since she is the only one of the four who understands no Russian, but they manage get along somehow. I think women get pre-natal courses in body language, or something.

[TrollBuster9090]

3. So much for the conservatives' love affair with the decisive, strong-man leader Putin...

[KoKo]

7. I don't watch MSM Faux News because they are crazy....but,

are you suggesting that the RW Supports Putin? I've never met a RW Repub who would support a person they consider a Communist......So, there's something else going on if you are saying that RW America/Tea Party supports Putin as a Dictator unless they equate him with McCain and Graham from South Carolina or it's another RW Fakeout to use Pretense for Manipulationl.

[TrollBuster9090]

8. Hypocrisy and double standards are not a problem for the right wing audience. So, yes, they've been

'supporting' Putin for a long time when it's convenient. They're supported him for:

A) Being a 'decisive leader,' to throw their cartoon character of Obama as a wishy-washy equivocator into sharp contrast.

B) They gave HIM credit for 'brokering' the deal to remove chemical weapons from Syria because they didn't want to give the credit to Obama, and finally,

C) They give him credit for keeping a low, and nearly flat tax rate in Russia; and having virtually no regulations on the oil industry in Russia. Both conservative ideals. Putin hasn't been a communist for 20 years.

On the other hand, when they NEED him to represent Communism, they remind everybody that he was a KGB colonel. They usually do this when Obama reaches some kind of a deal with him, so that they can say he is weak, and appeases communists.

So yes, conservatives both support Putin and vilify him, depending on what's convenient that day.

[KoKo]

9. So they and their Many "Think Tanks" tend to Play Both Sides

Against the Middle" while coercing in the Left into Supporting this Policy? With our one or two even Middle Leaning Think Tanks trying to provide Balance?

Since I'm not a Faux News or MSM Viewer.. but, more a Print Media Reader (with Focus on International Print Media)...this all sounds quite Bizarre.

[DeSwiss]

4. More EuroNews Propaganda.

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Do not fuck with Elvira

[uhnope]

5. Congrats! Most ironic post of the year

from an RT fan, that is as rich as peanut butter and tar

[KoKo]

10. Unhope....what are YOUR MSM Views as Sources for your Views?

Give Us a List..........

[uhnope]

11. the "MSM" meme comes from RW and conspiracy theory

Do you have a problem with DU's LBN section? They don't allow BS like RT or FOX.
That's my view, what do you think?

[KoKo]

12. Your list of "Approved Sites" that you find "Reliable"

is what I'm asking for.

It would be good to post them to "Progressive Media Resources Group" here on DU.

Here's your opportunity to give your Sources...so that we can add them to the DU "Group."

What are they?

[uhnope]

13. sorry I don't have a list

[KoKo]

15. No List? What?

Surely, like the rest of us ...you must have Some Familiar Sources you read when you get up every morning, before work, to start your day feeling "Informed."

I would hope you would share them here with us and then post them to "Progressive Media Resources Group" so they can be added to our list..after "vetting and approval" of course. After all it is a "Progressive Media Group" and therefore there will be some restrictions. But, if they are interesting...I'm sure we would all enjoy reading.

[uhnope]

16. Was RT "vetted and approved" in "Progressive Media Resources Group"?

I notice you post RT vids in the Progressive Media Resources Group. Was there "vetting and approving" for that? If so, that group is a joke.

[OilemFirchen]

17. Your interlocutor is one of the three hosts.

You're being grifted.

[uhnope]

20. yeah I'm being played

by one of the best, apparently.
Otherwise there's the "useful fool" phrase www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

[KoKo]

19. It has diversifed sources and links for news of interest to Progressives n/t

[newthinking]

18. War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda - Link

Most media has become either tabloid (run with whatever is the flavor of the day or emotional) or propaganda. Notice how many "news" stories use pitched language or subjective inference?


Secrecy, Surveillance and Censorship
War by Media and the Triumph of Propaganda
by JOHN PILGER

Why has so much journalism succumbed to propaganda? Why are censorship and distortion standard practice? Why is the BBC so often a mouthpiece of rapacious power? Why do the New York Times and the Washington Post deceive their readers?

Why are young journalists not taught to understand media agendas and to challenge the high claims and low purpose of fake objectivity? And why are they not taught that the essence of so much of what’s called the mainstream media is not information, but power?

These are urgent questions. The world is facing the prospect of major war, perhaps nuclear war – with the United States clearly determined to isolate and provoke Russia and eventually China. This truth is being turned upside down and inside out by journalists, including those who promoted the lies that led to the bloodbath in Iraq in 2003.

The times we live in are so dangerous and so distorted in public perception that propaganda is no longer, as Edward Bernays called it, an “invisible government”. It is the government. It rules directly without fear of contradiction and its principal aim is the conquest of us: our sense of the world, our ability to separate truth from lies.

The information age is actually a media age. We have war by media; censorship by media; demonology by media; retribution by media; diversion by media – a surreal assembly line of obedient clichés and false assumptions.


http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/05/war-by-media-and-the-triumph-of-propaganda/

[uhnope]

21. "the high claims and low purpose of fake objectivity"

you don't ever notice that on your RT, do you?