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Here's an example of some of the many reasons Frank has been my hero for decades.
His thinking was remarkable and classic. And he had no fear. Do we have anybody on this planet today that will forcefully take these guys on their own turf? imagine a present day Frank appearing on Fox and Friends or Hannity. He would verbally disembowel them and make them look like the servile cretins they are. And be funny in the process. I do not think there was ever a moment in his entire life when he was at a loss for words.
He spoke to anybody that would have him during the rock ratings debate in 1985. Like a one on one debate with Senator John Danforth live on a network morning show with Maria Shriver. AAAFNRAA Anything Anytime Any place for no reason at all was a credo for his music and life.
His younger brother was sexually harassed by a shop teacher. frank took over the guys class and locked him out of his own classroom. Frank got a suspension over that, but you just don't fuck with Frank - Ask Warner Bros or CBS Records or Herbie Cohen, his first manager.
Enjoy America's original Constitutional Fundamentalist
I do got to dig up more of this segment for more context
-90% jimmy
Alan Grayson has some of Frank in him. It will be to the shame of all Progressives if we do not get him back into Congress, where he can do some good for American Democracy. And it will be to the detriment of our struggle to take back our we the people democracy and all it should stand for if he doesn't win. Do not let this slip through our collective fingers, gang. Alan fights for us. We should fight for him. First, don't stop. Second, keep going.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)I love it when Grayson calls them out on it.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)It's moving America toward a fascist theocracy, and everything that's happened during the Reagan administration is steering us right down that pipe ... I really think that.
When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain religion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one certain religious point of view, and if that code happens to be very, very right wing, almost toward Attila the Hun..."
--Zappa in 1986
Thanks for the reminder of one hell of a influential rocker.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)always light years ahead of Ten Years After and Ted the d. bag t. bag.
BobbyBoring
(1,965 posts)Things are way more fucked now than they were in his days on this rock. Imagine the fun he would have had with Dubya!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)And.... Thank you, Alan Grayson for the same clarity.
FreeBC
(403 posts)I support his political views, but won't be surprised if he eventually gets caught in some awkward or embarrassing situation just like Weiner.
That's the problem with politics: even the people on our side are more often motivated by a love of power and of themselves than the issues they espouse.
Politics, politics, politics... Maybe someday we will stop the incessant talking about politics and start talking about government.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It is almost as if you live in your own little narcissist world. But, that really can't be can it?
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Oh! So you personally know Grayson, Weiner and most politicians.
You don't? Hmmmmm....
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)you'd rather have them bowing and scraping with hat in hand asking "please Mr. Rethug...."?
Hardly. Sometimes it takes a narcissistic personality to have the force to be able to brazenly get their point across and for that, I will not knock them, especially when they are progressives. The tack work really well for the other side. We're too busy on the liberal side of trying not to bring attention to the fact that we're liberals for fear of being attacked for being liberals.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)The difference being, I like mine who do public service, not private service.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)It takes someone with a larger-than-most image of themselves and their importance in order to be able to withstand what they go through to devote themselves to public life. Being narcissistic has its upside up to a point, but you're right, people can trip over into the grandiose illusion that they can get away with things that others can't.
But being narcissistic isn't the same as having a narcissistic personality disorder, which is disconnected from reality and superceded the goals. My hope is that Grayson comes down on the healthy side. I think Hillary does. I think Obama does, if he's on the spectrum at all (and if he's not it's got to be hard on him), I think Bill does now but went to the Dark Side in his youth, I think Bush II was not a narcissist, but was the dumb, incompetent victim of secondary narcissism (trying to live out his family dream) and I think Zappa was God. But that's another story.
Interesting comment aobut discussing government rather than politics. We've got a long way to go.
trumad
(41,692 posts)See how that works.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Dusty old men on their fake "decency" crusades all look alike.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)--dammit we need sharper tongues on the left--this is why Jon Stewart, Rachel Maddow and Stephen Colbert are medicine to our ears. We need a Mark Twain, a George Carlin, an epic satirist who is fast on their feet--so that the IDIOCY that masquerades as popular thought does not reach the light of day. The Sarah Palins should be slapped into their next life with so much wit they reconsider their life purpose.
So many representatives seem to be under some kind of PC stupor when they are responding to the RW---instead of being FIGHTING MAD. Wow 90-percent you are so right on with this post.
My favorite quote:
The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
― Frank Zappa
bayareaboy
(793 posts)I needed that. There was something about Frank that was more I think than you often get from the best of patriots.
he had a no B/S level set low and fair acceptance of other folks set high and was knowing that what he said, should be in the peoples language.
I tried to come up with someone else at present who does the same as Frank, I can't think of anyone.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)My first Frank Zappa dream ever, and it was a happy romance dream!!
Not that I haven't always loved him. So brilliant, and soooo damn funny!! sigh....
and then, here he is on the Greatest Page today!!!!!!
Stainless
(718 posts)He was also outspoken about important issues that affect all of us. In the clip, John Lofton was a jerk, whom I frankly don't remember and really don't care about.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)NBachers
(17,110 posts)God, I get so sick of the equivocating triangulating mealy-mouthed namby pambies that usually get pushed out to represent the progressive side on these broadcasts.
I really like his Lee Van Cleef eyes in the screenshot.
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