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Course when your choices are a between Giant Douche or A Turd Sandwich....swilton
(5,069 posts)- that voting makes a difference is analogous to the other childish illusion - that all soldiers are heroes - let's all grow up and admit that there is no Santa Claus.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)is that it doesn't really make much difference, both choices usually suck.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)swilton
(5,069 posts)the message became lost in the language - it wasn't worth waiting for the bottom line.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Johnny Rash
(227 posts)Must be getting closer to an Election Year, so "Don't Forget To Vote"!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)but at the time of this episode, the choice in reality wasn't between a "giant douche" or a "shit sandwich". Maybe I didn't correctly grasp the episode, but it made me cringe even as a 14 year old. John Kerry (like Al Gore before him) offered a distinct path that he planned to take the country on as president versus what Bush ll offered. Everyone in my family knew this. If you're a poor person, a woman, black, and/or are gay, elections the past several decades typically have meant something other than choosing the "lesser of two evils" or choosing between a douche and a shit sandwich. If voting didn't make a difference, there would've been no strengthening of Social Security (and other earned benefits), less highways, no Civil Rights, no women's rights, and so on.
Progressives probably wouldn't have gotten 100% of what they want under a President Kerry, but it would've at least been close to it, and this country wouldn't have been in the ditch that it is stuck in now. I mentioned it before, but even some of my POSCI professors argue that the two parties are the furthest apart in history--so much that they can hardly agree on anything in Congress anymore. JK's main flaw was that he didn't run a good enough campaign.
Also what made me cringe was the idea that someone is forcing people to vote (by gunpoint). Americans are not required to vote. We are free to do whatever. In fact, some people in power historically have not wanted every single person of age to vote. Americans should realize, though, that by not voting, it allows more of the status quo and more corruptness. Sitting out elections doesn't change a thing positively (be it the corruptness of Wall Street, job creation, ending wars, etc.). There will still be corrupt people elected even with a low turnout (perhaps more so than with a high turnout).
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Now I just view the whole system as corrupt. The more we have Teabaggers in charge the faster they will bring the system down.
Better than the death by a thousand paper cuts we are getting under the Moderate Republicans---sorry Democrats, we have in charge right now.