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thomhartmann

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Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:55 PM Apr 2012

Thom Hartmann: Catholics to Ryan - Hands off our Religion!



John Gehring, Faith in Public Life, joins Thom Hartmann. House Republicans again passed Paul Ryan's budget yesterday - and under it - 46 million Americans on food stamps will see massive cuts to their benefits over the next ten years. Is this really the moral way to govern the nation - by stealing from the poor and giving to the rich?


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Thom Hartmann: Catholics to Ryan - Hands off our Religion! (Original Post) thomhartmann Apr 2012 OP
The hierarchy's lukewarm response is a stark contrast their moral indignation over birth control. olegramps Apr 2012 #1
Ah, you said that much better than my rant. Thanks. freshwest Apr 2012 #3
Fair enough, except when Democrats follow 'the law of the land,' such as Roe v. Wade, freshwest Apr 2012 #2
Great interview. Thanks! n/t Peregrine Took Apr 2012 #4

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
1. The hierarchy's lukewarm response is a stark contrast their moral indignation over birth control.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:45 PM
Apr 2012

If the sactimonious bishops and their boot lickers can excommunicate desperate women who have a abortion, it would seem that they would have little problem excommunicating Paul Ryan and any other Catholic legislator who supports starving helpless men, women and children to death.

Every day millions of our children trudge off to school without a descent meal in their stomachs. Malnutrition can cause permanent damage to both the physical and mental wellbeing of children who will be robbed of a equal change to succeed. The longer that I see what is happening in our nation, the more disgusted I have become with the greed and outright hatred that the Republicans and their propagandists have cultured. It has come down to survival of the fittest and the hell with the rest; let them starve.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Fair enough, except when Democrats follow 'the law of the land,' such as Roe v. Wade,
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 02:02 PM
Apr 2012

They are being denied communion by the Church. No one wants to lose a powerful ally for social justice issues such as the Church has been at times. They have been consistent in opposing the Death Penalty, which gives credibility to their views on abortion and even contraception.

Other groups that want to call down their version of God's wrath with the death penalty and making wars, are two-faced, while making laws on women's bodies, whining about the unborn.

But exactly who is giving the Randians in the GOP communion, the same ones who are busy eliminating the people they term as 'parasites,' while catering to the so-called 'producers?'

They still get a free pass for killing the poor. The Church has ex-communicated kings for less in the past, yet these men are still acceptable to the Church.

They know that not only will people will go without food, but die from lack of medical care with cuts to Medicaid, which pay for long-term care and other arrangements which naturally include food. Church pantries can provide food, but not the kind of care that these people need.

Until the Church shows as much commitment to the already born as they do the unborn in shunning these monsters, they are speaking gracefully about nothing.

I wish Thom had asked why none of them suggested humiliating Ryan or Boehner in public as was done to Kerry and the Kennedy's, by no less than Cardinal Ratzinger for simply acknowledging that they must follow the will of the majority on abortion rights.

Most likely it was because they honor the concept of secular government, even if personally opposed to what the majority has wanted.

Yet Ryan and Boehner wear their 'faith' on their sleeve and are not being punished by the very weapon they claim moral authority from to wield death. This was a slap on the hand, while people are dying from what the GOP are doing, the very people Jesus commanded his followers to help.

The Church is enabling the GOP to kill people if they allow them to stay in their ranks, but no one calls any of them out on this.


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