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merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Only in the Senate two years, supposedly unelectible except in a state like MA, yet
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 12:18 PM
Oct 2014

being asked to speak in red states on behalf of Democratic candidates, including the ones running away from Obama.

Who is responsible for that lousy call?

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
2. You know when the extremist corporate media representing the 1% call EW "far left"...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:37 PM
Oct 2014

... when she is representing the 99% in their interests to help rebuild the middle class that's been destroyed by this powerful extremist fringe group that like to call themselves and their corporatist servants "moderates", you know that this is someone they want to hold back. Because if red state America starts to see her more in the trenches and hears her talking about issues that affect them so directly without the social issue distraction constant interruptions that the corporate media, that most Americans, left, center, and even a number on the right, will LIKE her!!!''

Everyone says she keeps denying she'll run in 2016. And you KNOW that if she even dropped a hint about running, the corporate media would be ready to unleash a huge media campaign against her from now until 2016 election.

Taking trips to help other senators not only helps them, but it also helps her get in touch with other voters outside of Massachusetts, and especially to let her talk more with those in red states. If she still has in the back of her mind that she MIGHT want to run in 2016, what better way for her to prepare for that than to travel with Senators in red states in this election to help her make that assessment and still stay below the radar screen of those who want to try and bury her if she pokes her head up too high.

The issues she's championing on accountability of Wall Street, helping students as noted in the video, and others are those that should resonate with all of us, no matter what we might feel about gay marriage or birth control.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. Let me posit a hypothetical scenario.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:46 PM
Oct 2014

What if some Democrat or Democrats in power told you that, if Hillary runs, that is where all the DNC money, donors and support will go. No one will show up to campaign for you. No donor, even EMILY's List or a union, will contribute to your campaign. And Wall Street and the banksters aren't going to line up for an orphan candidate either. And not only that, but you will also be on your own the next time you run for re-election-and maybe the Party will even back a primary challenger.

Would you run?
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
4. I think that she'll only come and run if she feels she has a good chance at winning the nomination.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:54 PM
Oct 2014

And as I noted, I think the way she's campaigning for other Democrats is a great way for her to get more information to help her with that analysis.

And the more she helps other candidates, and if her presence actually helps them win elections, then the party should realize how valuable she is to them in holding on to their base who VOTE, and not just those with money who wish to buy a candidate's obeyance.

That's why at this point, it's too early to assess whether she will or won't run. Yes, it's a tough uphill battle for her, and tougher for her than those that would drink from the corporate trough like Hillary, but I don't think any of us should write her off just yet. It's still too early, as we have to remind those that bring up corporate media propaganda about the "inevitable".

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Winning the nomination would be very difficult, if not impossible, in the hypothetical situation
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:56 PM
Oct 2014

that I posited and failure to win it would be very costly personally.

Not saying it actually happened to Warren or anyone. It's just my hypothetical. I made it up. let's be clear about that. But, I don't see it or something like it as outside the realm of possibility.

On the other hand, there's always a possibility that Hillary will not run.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
6. And a much greater possibility that Hillary will fall flat as a pancake, like last time
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:54 PM
Oct 2014

she has not grown as a candidate or a person.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. I just hope that, if that is destined to happen, it happens during a primary,
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 10:58 PM
Oct 2014

not the general. However, I do not see that as the plan they have for us this time around.

Got umbrellas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Hong_Kong_protests

I have a feeling that, if anything stops the plan to anoint Hillary, rather than have a pesky, genuinely contested primary, the events in Hong Kong will do it faster than anything we registered Dems do here.

 

supercats

(429 posts)
7. Senator Warren Is The Best!
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 12:10 AM
Oct 2014

She needs to run for president because she seems to be the only person willing ,and most importantly able to play smash mouth politics. She isn't afraid of any republican and she takes it right too them...'In your face you criminal, racist, bigoted, liar'!!! She is exactly what this country needs after 30 wasted years of reaganomics!

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