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John Cleese weighs in on Fox news... (Original Post) Archae Sep 2014 OP
It is absolutely true still_one Sep 2014 #1
I always wonder why liberals don't start their own yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #2
Clear channel owns most of the radio stations kimbutgar Sep 2014 #4
A quick demise for AirAmerica radio? At least most of their people are still around. maddiemom Sep 2014 #5
I'm guessing there's a correlation between the politically left, and people who AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #23
BullsEye zebonaut Sep 2014 #3
And now for something completely different rock Sep 2014 #6
Some have a good ear but can't sing. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #9
There are so many talented people Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2014 #7
This should be on a "Greatest Page" so it doesn't drift off into obscurity. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #8
I always loved this guy... freebrew Sep 2014 #10
I must disagree or offer a modification. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #11
And there was much rejoicing. EEO Sep 2014 #12
expected to hear him continue edgineered Sep 2014 #14
"frighteningly good" OR a lot of people are just very, very stupid Skittles Sep 2014 #19
I'll offer a second modification: frighteningly effective. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #20
Pox News is the oracle The Wizard Sep 2014 #13
K&R valerief Sep 2014 #15
Bingo, Bango, Bongo SmittynMo Sep 2014 #16
I'm sending this to my climate-denying, libertarian friend... immoderate Sep 2014 #17
Miss Piggy had a cute quote about fox news mucifer Sep 2014 #18
Art is in the eye of the beholder and that's fine. But News is supposed to be FACTS. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #21
Cleese is rather good at observing art... Archae Sep 2014 #25
ROFL! longship Sep 2014 #27
Well Said Mr. Cleese!!! supercats Sep 2014 #22
I really shouldn't be suggesting this but.... chknltl Sep 2014 #24
The Dunning Kruger effect! longship Sep 2014 #26
This is great Gothmog Sep 2014 #28
Let's not blame stupid people and compare them with Faux News PeoViejo Sep 2014 #29
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. I always wonder why liberals don't start their own
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:39 AM
Sep 2014

Network and talk radio. We can't just complain about how unfair it is for the Republicans to have a network and radio station while we do nothing about it. How long have people complained about Fox News and talk radio? 20 years. And it has gotten us what exactly?

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
4. Clear channel owns most of the radio stations
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:51 AM
Sep 2014

When they go bankrupt we might be able to pick up some stations. Mitt and Bain loaded clear channel up with debt. Rush is costing them a lot of ad revenue. It will only be a matter of time unless the Koch's bail them out and take over all our public airwaves. It the rethugs get in count on them weakening the regulatory control of the FCC and giving the Koch's unfettered access.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
23. I'm guessing there's a correlation between the politically left, and people who
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 02:22 AM
Sep 2014

don't listen to an actual radio AT ALL. Instead, relying on podcasts, streaming music, etc.

rock

(13,218 posts)
6. And now for something completely different
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 12:18 PM
Sep 2014

The principle he quotes (established by David Dunning of Cornell) is clearly at work on American Idol (as well as other places). If you've ever watched the auditions you know what I mean. However, the really odd point is everyone can assess another person's singing ability regardless of their musical ability, but their ability to assess their own singing depends on their musical ability. This leads to the American Idol principle: (nearly) everybody thinks they can sing! I say 'nearly' for sadly some of us are tone deaf and can't carry a tune in a bucket and know it.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
7. There are so many talented people
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:40 PM
Sep 2014

in the entertainment field who should run for office, including John Cleese.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
11. I must disagree or offer a modification.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:57 PM
Sep 2014

This explains the immense SUCCESS of Fox News. It does not explain Fox News itself. Fox is frighteningly good at crafting false narratives, creating deflection, spin, smoke and mirrors, and other social manipulation. Possibly the best in the business. Extreme talent.

But it does suggest something about the VIEWERS of Fox News.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
14. expected to hear him continue
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:28 PM
Sep 2014

by adding 'and its viewers' at the closing. It was the loudest thing I heard even though it wasn't there. I guess I'm not good at listening.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
17. I'm sending this to my climate-denying, libertarian friend...
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:49 PM
Sep 2014

... who said connecting "warming" with "thermodynamics" was a red herring.

--imm

mucifer

(23,550 posts)
18. Miss Piggy had a cute quote about fox news
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:41 PM
Sep 2014


Not as intellectual as Cleese. But, she had a good point.


But, regarding Cleese's quote, I feel that way about music. I like some music that people who know a lot about music say is crap. Because I don't know much about music I can't tell what is good or bad. I can only tell what is pleasing to me. That's ok when you are listening to music.

But then it does get ugly if you say only intelligent people should vote. Everyone should be allowed to vote. But, something should be done to regulate the lies on tv.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. Art is in the eye of the beholder and that's fine. But News is supposed to be FACTS.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:14 AM
Sep 2014

Not pure, unmitigated, fabricated bullshit.

 

supercats

(429 posts)
22. Well Said Mr. Cleese!!!
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 02:06 AM
Sep 2014

An accurate explanation that was also a well deserved truth-ism that some might call a put down...Bravo!!!

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
24. I really shouldn't be suggesting this but....
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 02:45 AM
Sep 2014

....this really needs to be posted over at Discussionist too!

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
29. Let's not blame stupid people and compare them with Faux News
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:25 AM
Sep 2014

Some folks are burdened with a cognitive disability that is not of their making. FOX is WILLFULLY stupid, and takes advantage of those with low levels of Critical Thinking, by appearing to craft a message on their level, but in fact, is designed to cleverly manipulate their emotions and drive their behavior.

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