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Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 07:54 PM Aug 2014

A Change Is Gonna Come!

IT has to!

We cant just leave shit like this.

The rich getting richer. The poor getting poorer. Black men by the millions being locked up stagnating their progress as a race.

Cops killing dogs.

CEOs raping our country.

Corporations raping our planet.

WE NEED CHANGE!


it cant stay like this.

I wont accept that.

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A Change Is Gonna Come! (Original Post) Garion_55 Aug 2014 OP
Agreed newfie11 Aug 2014 #1
There'll be NO "Change" out of Washington DC, (D) or (R), that you'll ever want. Guaranteed. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #2
That is a load of defeatist crap. nt tridim Aug 2014 #3
Not defeatist. Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #4
What an individual can do is..... TheMick Aug 2014 #9
That is dreaming. Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #16
You do realize that with every purchase you make WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2014 #18
We should learn from French farmers. alfredo Aug 2014 #22
If you mean... ReRe Aug 2014 #23
Fuck with us, we'll shut down the country. alfredo Aug 2014 #30
Sadly, that's not true with American farmers... ReRe Aug 2014 #32
I'm talking about American workers taking a hint from French farmers. alfredo Aug 2014 #33
Absolutely! ReRe Aug 2014 #34
We also need to engage in peaceful non compliance. alfredo Aug 2014 #35
You have given up. Defeated. tridim Aug 2014 #13
No, I have not. Curmudgeoness Aug 2014 #17
Yeah... nikto Aug 2014 #5
Yes they are. tridim Aug 2014 #14
It is defeatist, by definition. "Give up, there is nothing we can do", it fits the definition. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #7
It's a worthless attitude and it pisses me off. Democrats don't give up. Period. nt tridim Aug 2014 #15
I Understand Your Cynicism, BUT . . . cer7711 Aug 2014 #10
Those few exceptions that you enumerate swilton Aug 2014 #28
Scientifically-speaking, an example of one . . . cer7711 Aug 2014 #31
In this entire thread... nikto Aug 2014 #37
Sadly agree. 840high Aug 2014 #21
+++++ swilton Aug 2014 #29
With all due respect, B.M.M., I'm not sure we can afford that kind of thinking..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #36
"Never believe" Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #6
^^^^^This^^^^^ ReRe Aug 2014 #24
I can almost smell it in the air. rurallib Aug 2014 #8
the MEdia is colluding w/ the 2% + the GOP/tinkle down. pansypoo53219 Aug 2014 #11
How we gonna know? GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #12
change kardonb Aug 2014 #19
Policies and Programs humbled_opinion Aug 2014 #20
I'm recc'ing because I love Sam Cooke. historylovr Aug 2014 #25
Agreed swilton Aug 2014 #27
Saddens me deeply to that this is so appropriate swilton Aug 2014 #26
 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
2. There'll be NO "Change" out of Washington DC, (D) or (R), that you'll ever want. Guaranteed.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 08:33 PM
Aug 2014
The Banks Own The Place, and by logical extension, they must also own both political parties
 

TheMick

(23 posts)
9. What an individual can do is.....
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:43 PM
Aug 2014

....to change his own life. Imagine if everyone went out and made an effort to improve his or her own life.
Imagine a country where people THOUGHT first and ACTED later. No drug or alcohol abuse, no unwed
pregnancies, no crime, etc. Imagine a country where people who created babies actually took care of them,
nurtured them and taught them how to be good, honest citizens. Then we would have a much better country.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
16. That is dreaming.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:10 PM
Aug 2014

I wish. But we have to do more that hope for Utopia. We have to keep talking to people, especially the people who either do not agree with our worldview, or specifically people who are apathetic. Wishing and hoping that people will become better human beings on their own will do no good.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
18. You do realize that with every purchase you make
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:12 PM
Aug 2014

you are voting with your dollars, it may not seem like much, but added together it becomes huge.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
32. Sadly, that's not true with American farmers...
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 08:47 PM
Aug 2014

... but in France, a few years ago, the dairy farmers filled up their big shiny milk tankers, drove them to a big field, parked them in wagon-train fashion in a circle, and spilled out all of the milk! It was a sight to see.

alfredo

(60,077 posts)
33. I'm talking about American workers taking a hint from French farmers.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 10:58 PM
Aug 2014

We need to take back the power that was taken from us by the Capitalist and their punks in DC.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
17. No, I have not.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:12 PM
Aug 2014

But I do not have faith in the politicians to make the changes we need. There is a difference between giving up and working for change in other areas instead of pinning all our hopes on a few people.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
5. Yeah...
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:14 PM
Aug 2014

The forces of Progressivism and democratic reform are so strong and
resurgent right now.

cer7711

(502 posts)
10. I Understand Your Cynicism, BUT . . .
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:45 PM
Aug 2014

. . . consider these three names:

Elizabeth Warren
Alan Grayson
Ruth Bader Ginsburg

A senator, a representative and a Supreme Court judge.

Would you like them to wake up tomorrow and say, "F--k it; I'm packing it in. It's hopeless." And step aside for lesser lights to take their place?

As I said, I understand your cynicism. And the anger and despair that fuels it. God knows the system does it's level best to inculcate a sense of learned helplessness in us all; it's what the 1%--and their lick-spittle lackeys--want.

But if those three fighters are still in there mixing it up with all manner of trolls, plutocratic scumbags and right-wing bully-boys, don't you feel there might just be the merest sliver of hope remaining for the working and middle classes of this country (in league with enlightened aristocrats--let's call them what they are, eh?) to right myriad wrongs before a second American revolution becomes necessary?

I certainly hope so. Because the alternative is too horrifying to contemplate . . .

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
28. Those few exceptions that you enumerate
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 10:40 AM
Aug 2014

are paraded out on occasion to titillate the masses.

But like rotten apples, they will eventually be eliminated for fear that they spoil the barrel. Just look at Dennis Kucinich as a case study.

cer7711

(502 posts)
31. Scientifically-speaking, an example of one . . .
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 03:18 PM
Aug 2014

. . . proves nothing.

But I do take your point. I'm inclined to agree with you: The system drifts ever-rightward, enriching plutocrats and the corporate masters they serve at the expense of everyone else. Our 1% overlords care nothing of Cicero's "concordia ordinum" (harmony of the classes); they play the socio-economic/poli-sci game the only way they know how: as a brutal, zero-sum exercise in social Darwinism.

Yet I need to remind myself, if no one else: There are good, decent people in all walks of life battling this ever-increasing concentration of wealth among our elite, fighting the good fight to ensure that at least a record of resistance is written into history before it all collapses in blood and fire--again.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
36. With all due respect, B.M.M., I'm not sure we can afford that kind of thinking.....
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 05:47 AM
Aug 2014

whether it's related to politics, or climate change, etc.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
19. change
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:14 PM
Aug 2014

throughout history , change has been a constant , otherwise , we would still live in caves .

As long as change is achieved through peaceful means , its progress . Violence is mostly harmful .

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
20. Policies and Programs
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 10:20 PM
Aug 2014

Have to work, if things were working and the people felt it then it would be all good.... Problem is stuff just isn't going good anywhere here at home or in the world... Sad really....

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