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Related: About this forumSHOCKER: Paranoid Militia Nuts Start Suspecting Each Other, Kick 'Oathkeepers' Out.
Two things that will not come as a shock to anybody, and one thing that probably SHOULD shock you, but won't.
1. Anarchist militia nuts, who hate all forms of 'government' are having trouble 'governing' their alleged defense of the Bundy ranch. (Not surprised.)
2. Paranoid militia nuts, who see conspiracy theories and plots everywhere are starting to suspect each other of being gummint agents. The 'Oathkeepers' are labelled traitors and deserters by other nutcases who don't consider them to be crazy enough. (Not surprised.)
3. These same paranoid crackpots are allowed to continue being the most heavily armed people in the country. (SADLY, not surprised.)
Clearly these guys were never forced to read LORD OF THE FLIES in school. Otherwise they'd know they're supposed to have possession of the CONCH before they can speak.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)had infiltrated the militia. Whether that is true or just put out to cause confusion and distrust, I don't know. Don't even ask where I read it, as my memory won't help me come up with an answer. It was one of the myriad of articles about the Bundy situation. I DID see it, though.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)agents from investigating the people who make up a large, energetic chunk of their base. Apparently, it's only illegal to plot to overthrow the United States Government if you're brown.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)then say it was done by FBI infiltrators.
Whenever they're caught doing anything illegal such as murder or rape they'll scream "FBI infiltrator!", its a common right wing tactic.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Although, they'd do that whether the FBI had infiltrated or not. So, given a choice, I'd rather the FBI or the ATF infiltrated these groups. Harry Reid is 100% correct to call them domestic terrorists.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)taken charge. The language he uses "treason," "chain of command," etc. suggests some sort of military training. His mastery of the English language is significantly better than that of the others who speak. He appears to be a fascist, militaristic personality -- or at least imitating one very well. He could be leading the entire group into using language and taking actions that might put them all in jail for a long time.
I'm just guessing, but I would not expect a provocateur to be the soft-spoken guy who isn't sure how far he wants to take things.
These guys are a bunch of fools.
The leader is so authoritarian and playing so cleverly on the paranoia of the fools who are following him. It is very sad.
The leader speaks as if he has set up some sort of alternative, authoritarian government out there in the desert, something where he is the dictator and everybody who doesn't agree with him is to be silenced.
I contrast this with what we saw in the Occupy movement. With very few exceptions, the people in the Occupy movement welcomed strangers, sought to listen to viewpoints different from their own, even conflicting with their own and imposed only the most basic rules about who could come and go. Occupy was at its core non-violent although inevitably it attracted some violent types. The violence in Occupy was unrelated to the purpose of the movement.
I find this video to be very disturbing. We are "one nation" not a lot of little punks with guns hoping to shoot it out with the police.
These people could be very dangerous to our country.
What amazed me is that they apparently have internet access out there. One guy talked about his Facebook posts. What in the world?
teknomanzer
(1,868 posts)Its like an episode of the Twilight Zone. The paranoid mob turns against itself.
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/04/30/back-at-the-bundy-ranch-its-oath-keepers-vs-militiamen-as-wild-rumors-fly/
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)What a bunch of morons.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)two teabaggers were speculating that this guy is a gubmint plant.
I haven't seen a bigger bunch of idiots in I don't know when! Talk about delusional!
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)"Dereliction of duty, blah blah blah." Do these guys even listen to themselves? Actual military members must be laughing their asses off.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)zebonaut
(3,688 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Lord of the Flies, which I've now added to the post.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Blue Owl
(50,490 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Dollface
(1,590 posts)I like a skulk of yahoos but other possibilities include a sloth, an obstinancy, a bloat, a crash, or a scurry.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...and their brains start frying.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)F*ck these a**holes
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kysrsoze
(6,022 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Those poor dogs just want to offer companionship to vets, they didnt ask to lay out on the hot desert ground while being fed hot water and crap food.
F*ck them, take these morons dogs away and give them to a Vet who will actually cherish them.
Seeing that makes me so mad!
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Militiamen set up daily Firing Squads to liquidate anyone accused of Treason.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)Are these guys just a bunch of people who are afraid of the military, but want to play soldier? They love to used military terminology, but how many of them have actually been in the military? Much of what they said did not apply to the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch is neither a battlefield or a kill zone. In addition, considering at least some of them wanted to use women and children as defense barriers they do not seem like the military type.
Furthermore, how much of the Bundy Ranch stuff is about ego and not wanting to share the spotlight for these militia groups. Throughout much of the video I felt the guy in the black shirt with the Gatorade bottle wanted to stroke his ego and be the center of attention.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)And about the number of actual military vets in these groups. In my experience, some militia men ARE military vets, but generally only served one hitch, probably served as a cook or something, and then didn't re-enlist because they can't stand military discipline and order (not to mention having to swear allegiance to a Kenyan communist usurper). They got to fire lots of sexy guns during basic training, and then proceeded to spend the next four years mopping floors, and figured it wasn't for them.
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kysrsoze
(6,022 posts)These morons need to get into work working or SOMETHING to occupy their idle, feeble minds.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)kysrsoze
(6,022 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Second you never let the enemy know your weaknesses.
Third I would never let the general public know I was there to stroke my own ego which is what that leader is doing.
Fourth I would have known why and when one of the largest factions of my forces were preparing to leave before it happened and wouldn't need their leader to return and explain the reasons.
What a bunch of fools, the leader does seem articulate and having some leadership experience, but not too intelligent.
chopper050
(43 posts)Why is this shit still going on? Don't these people have jobs they have to go to? WTF!
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)appears to be drinking Aqua Velva. They're all getting burned out and crabby. Let the fizzling continue!
El Shaman
(583 posts)little do they know that the cell phone towers have long pinged their coordinates!!! All the NSA or CIA have to do is load the info onto an old, Iraqi surplus, drone and A DIOS Mo Fos !!!!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Thanks for keeping on this.
jalan48
(13,881 posts)The leader of this Bundy Bunch looks way to bright to be hanging out with these folks. I wonder if he attended military training school? Maybe worked for a private contractor like Black Water?
Dollface
(1,590 posts)these geniuses stand around under a blazing sun. I feel bad for the townies though.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)1. TeaBagger nuts, who hate all forms of 'government' are having trouble 'governing' -- their alleged reason for running for Congress. (Not surprised.)
2. Paranoid military nuts of the Pentagon and NATO, who see conspiracy theories and plots everywhere are starting to suspect each other of being whistleblowers. The 'Occupy and the Snowden supporters' are labelled traitors and deserters by the other nutcases (local police) who consider them to be crazy enough to kill. (Not surprised.)
3. These same paranoid crackpots (The US Military) are allowed to continue being the most heavily armed people in the world. (SADLY, not surprised.)
Meh. Who cares, eh?