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TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:03 PM Apr 2014

SHOCKER: Paranoid Militia Nuts Start Suspecting Each Other, Kick 'Oathkeepers' Out.

Two things that will not come as a shock to anybody, and one thing that probably SHOULD shock you, but won't.

1. Anarchist militia nuts, who hate all forms of 'government' are having trouble 'governing' their alleged defense of the Bundy ranch. (Not surprised.)

2. Paranoid militia nuts, who see conspiracy theories and plots everywhere are starting to suspect each other of being gummint agents. The 'Oathkeepers' are labelled traitors and deserters by other nutcases who don't consider them to be crazy enough. (Not surprised.)

3. These same paranoid crackpots are allowed to continue being the most heavily armed people in the country. (SADLY, not surprised.)



Clearly these guys were never forced to read LORD OF THE FLIES in school. Otherwise they'd know they're supposed to have possession of the CONCH before they can speak.

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SHOCKER: Paranoid Militia Nuts Start Suspecting Each Other, Kick 'Oathkeepers' Out. (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 OP
I saw a comment in some article a few days ago that the FBI Frustratedlady Apr 2014 #1
They probably have, despite all attempts by the GOP to stop any government law enforcement TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 #5
Careful, this just gives these racist thugs an opportunity to gun down someone... 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #13
Good point. TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 #14
Assuming infiltration to be true, the first person I would suspect is the guy who seems to have JDPriestly Apr 2014 #19
Good read from SPLC on the wingnut rift. teknomanzer May 2014 #30
Wow, the story at link is hysterical. HooptieWagon May 2014 #31
In comments on a Youtube video that I watched, bitchkitty May 2014 #36
Too funny. Votes being taken during a circle jerk. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #2
"Votes being taken during a circle jerk" is a pretty good analogy. TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 #6
oh look they are forming a mini government. But the two guys on the right are traitors zebonaut Apr 2014 #3
The whole thing reminded me of those 'conch shell' meetings the boys would have in Golding's TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 #4
If that is what the gubmint is up against.... AAO Apr 2014 #7
Remember, this ranch is only big enough for one of you... Blue Owl Apr 2014 #8
Yahoos fighting over who runs the show. LMAO. Hoyt Apr 2014 #9
Just wondering what the correct term is for a group of yahoos (pronounced yay-whos). Dollface May 2014 #34
Wait till the temp hits triple digits... HooptieWagon Apr 2014 #10
They're bringing support dogs out with them in the heat 951-Riverside Apr 2014 #15
They probably feed those poor dogs that absolute shit Wal-Mart dog food. kysrsoze May 2014 #28
Its shameful. 951-Riverside May 2014 #29
Shot at Dawn PeoViejo Apr 2014 #11
Nah. Corporal punishment. "Stoppage of Mountan Dew rations." TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 #17
No Snickers Bar for You. PeoViejo Apr 2014 #22
Cowards Scared of the Military erpowers Apr 2014 #12
Very true. TrollBuster9090 Apr 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author DhhD May 2014 #32
Exactly. What a bunch of stupid, fvcking douchebags. Get a hobby, FFS. kysrsoze May 2014 #26
How long before they start shooting each other, or turn against their master Cliven? Crowman1979 Apr 2014 #18
One can only hope. kysrsoze May 2014 #27
First if I were in charge of that group, that conversation would have never been recorded. A Simple Game Apr 2014 #20
Why? chopper050 Apr 2014 #21
Mr. Black T-Shirt Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2014 #23
Frequancy class- El Shaman Apr 2014 #24
At 9:34 they raise their hands to vote, but Miss Tough Teabag doesn't get a vote. Imagine that! n/t freshwest May 2014 #25
The Leader. jalan48 May 2014 #33
It's probably easier for the FBI to have them all in one place. They can do background work while Dollface May 2014 #35
The weird part? DeSwiss May 2014 #37

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
1. I saw a comment in some article a few days ago that the FBI
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:12 PM
Apr 2014

had infiltrated the militia. Whether that is true or just put out to cause confusion and distrust, I don't know. Don't even ask where I read it, as my memory won't help me come up with an answer. It was one of the myriad of articles about the Bundy situation. I DID see it, though.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
5. They probably have, despite all attempts by the GOP to stop any government law enforcement
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:28 PM
Apr 2014

agents from investigating the people who make up a large, energetic chunk of their base. Apparently, it's only illegal to plot to overthrow the United States Government if you're brown.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
13. Careful, this just gives these racist thugs an opportunity to gun down someone...
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:47 PM
Apr 2014

then say it was done by FBI infiltrators.

Whenever they're caught doing anything illegal such as murder or rape they'll scream "FBI infiltrator!", its a common right wing tactic.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
14. Good point.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:57 PM
Apr 2014

Although, they'd do that whether the FBI had infiltrated or not. So, given a choice, I'd rather the FBI or the ATF infiltrated these groups. Harry Reid is 100% correct to call them domestic terrorists.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. Assuming infiltration to be true, the first person I would suspect is the guy who seems to have
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 05:15 PM
Apr 2014

taken charge. The language he uses "treason," "chain of command," etc. suggests some sort of military training. His mastery of the English language is significantly better than that of the others who speak. He appears to be a fascist, militaristic personality -- or at least imitating one very well. He could be leading the entire group into using language and taking actions that might put them all in jail for a long time.

I'm just guessing, but I would not expect a provocateur to be the soft-spoken guy who isn't sure how far he wants to take things.

These guys are a bunch of fools.

The leader is so authoritarian and playing so cleverly on the paranoia of the fools who are following him. It is very sad.

The leader speaks as if he has set up some sort of alternative, authoritarian government out there in the desert, something where he is the dictator and everybody who doesn't agree with him is to be silenced.

I contrast this with what we saw in the Occupy movement. With very few exceptions, the people in the Occupy movement welcomed strangers, sought to listen to viewpoints different from their own, even conflicting with their own and imposed only the most basic rules about who could come and go. Occupy was at its core non-violent although inevitably it attracted some violent types. The violence in Occupy was unrelated to the purpose of the movement.

I find this video to be very disturbing. We are "one nation" not a lot of little punks with guns hoping to shoot it out with the police.

These people could be very dangerous to our country.

What amazed me is that they apparently have internet access out there. One guy talked about his Facebook posts. What in the world?

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
36. In comments on a Youtube video that I watched,
Thu May 1, 2014, 06:21 PM
May 2014

two teabaggers were speculating that this guy is a gubmint plant.

I haven't seen a bigger bunch of idiots in I don't know when! Talk about delusional!

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
2. Too funny. Votes being taken during a circle jerk.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:12 PM
Apr 2014

"Dereliction of duty, blah blah blah." Do these guys even listen to themselves? Actual military members must be laughing their asses off.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
4. The whole thing reminded me of those 'conch shell' meetings the boys would have in Golding's
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 03:25 PM
Apr 2014

Lord of the Flies, which I've now added to the post.

Dollface

(1,590 posts)
34. Just wondering what the correct term is for a group of yahoos (pronounced yay-whos).
Thu May 1, 2014, 05:50 PM
May 2014

I like a skulk of yahoos but other possibilities include a sloth, an obstinancy, a bloat, a crash, or a scurry.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
29. Its shameful.
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:29 AM
May 2014

Those poor dogs just want to offer companionship to vets, they didnt ask to lay out on the hot desert ground while being fed hot water and crap food.

F*ck them, take these morons dogs away and give them to a Vet who will actually cherish them.

Seeing that makes me so mad!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
12. Cowards Scared of the Military
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:23 PM
Apr 2014

Are these guys just a bunch of people who are afraid of the military, but want to play soldier? They love to used military terminology, but how many of them have actually been in the military? Much of what they said did not apply to the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch is neither a battlefield or a kill zone. In addition, considering at least some of them wanted to use women and children as defense barriers they do not seem like the military type.

Furthermore, how much of the Bundy Ranch stuff is about ego and not wanting to share the spotlight for these militia groups. Throughout much of the video I felt the guy in the black shirt with the Gatorade bottle wanted to stroke his ego and be the center of attention.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
16. Very true.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 05:02 PM
Apr 2014

And about the number of actual military vets in these groups. In my experience, some militia men ARE military vets, but generally only served one hitch, probably served as a cook or something, and then didn't re-enlist because they can't stand military discipline and order (not to mention having to swear allegiance to a Kenyan communist usurper). They got to fire lots of sexy guns during basic training, and then proceeded to spend the next four years mopping floors, and figured it wasn't for them.

Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #16)

kysrsoze

(6,022 posts)
26. Exactly. What a bunch of stupid, fvcking douchebags. Get a hobby, FFS.
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:16 AM
May 2014

These morons need to get into work working or SOMETHING to occupy their idle, feeble minds.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
20. First if I were in charge of that group, that conversation would have never been recorded.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 05:16 PM
Apr 2014

Second you never let the enemy know your weaknesses.
Third I would never let the general public know I was there to stroke my own ego which is what that leader is doing.
Fourth I would have known why and when one of the largest factions of my forces were preparing to leave before it happened and wouldn't need their leader to return and explain the reasons.

What a bunch of fools, the leader does seem articulate and having some leadership experience, but not too intelligent.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
23. Mr. Black T-Shirt
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:14 PM
Apr 2014

appears to be drinking Aqua Velva. They're all getting burned out and crabby. Let the fizzling continue!

El Shaman

(583 posts)
24. Frequancy class-
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:30 PM
Apr 2014

little do they know that the cell phone towers have long pinged their coordinates!!! All the NSA or CIA have to do is load the info onto an old, Iraqi surplus, drone and A DIOS Mo Fos !!!!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. At 9:34 they raise their hands to vote, but Miss Tough Teabag doesn't get a vote. Imagine that! n/t
Thu May 1, 2014, 01:05 AM
May 2014

Thanks for keeping on this.

jalan48

(13,881 posts)
33. The Leader.
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:22 AM
May 2014

The leader of this Bundy Bunch looks way to bright to be hanging out with these folks. I wonder if he attended military training school? Maybe worked for a private contractor like Black Water?

Dollface

(1,590 posts)
35. It's probably easier for the FBI to have them all in one place. They can do background work while
Thu May 1, 2014, 05:56 PM
May 2014

these geniuses stand around under a blazing sun. I feel bad for the townies though.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
37. The weird part?
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:40 PM
May 2014
- You could say that about others as well:

1. TeaBagger nuts, who hate all forms of 'government' are having trouble 'governing' -- their alleged reason for running for Congress. (Not surprised.)

2. Paranoid military nuts of the Pentagon and NATO, who see conspiracy theories and plots everywhere are starting to suspect each other of being whistleblowers. The 'Occupy and the Snowden supporters' are labelled traitors and deserters by the other nutcases (local police) who consider them to be crazy enough to kill. (Not surprised.)

3. These same paranoid crackpots (The US Military) are allowed to continue being the most heavily armed people in the world. (SADLY, not surprised.)




Meh. Who cares, eh?
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