TYT: Mom Beaten To Death With Tire Iron - Killer's Note: 'Go Back To Your Country'

[ihavenobias]

A 32-year-old woman from Iraq who was found severely beaten next to a threatening note saying "go back to your country" died on Saturday...Alawadi, a mother of five, had been hospitalized since her 17-year-old daughter found her unconscious Wednesday in the family's house in El Cajon, police Lt. Steve Shakowski said. The daughter, Fatima Al Himidi, told KUSI-TV her mother had been beaten on the head repeatedly with a tire iron, and that the note said "go back to your country, you terrorist"...".* Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young turks.

* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/24/shaima-alawadi-dead_n_1377724.html

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[robinlynne]

1. There is no difference between this death and Trayvon's, really. But we aren't talking about this

murder. (including myself here)

[pnwmom]

10. Ordinary domestic violence hasn't been ruled out in this case,

so that's a difference.

All we know so far is what the daughter and a friend reported to the media.

[robinlynne]

11. and that there was a racist note, correct?

[pnwmom]

14. And you're sure it was a genuine note written by a terrorist?

And not someone who was just trying to divert suspicion from himself? A family member, an angry business associate, or someone else with a grudge?

It seems strange to me that this "terrorist" didn't cause any damage inside the house. And I haven't heard that anyone outside the family has ever seen the original note that supposedly was left a couple of weeks ago. For all we know (as reported in the media), the daughter was only TOLD about the earlier note, and never saw it herself.

We just don't know enough now to draw ANY conclusions.

[robinlynne]

15. terrorist? I thought it was a racist note.

[pnwmom]

16. Hate crimes are a kind of personal terrorism. But the point is

we don't know the note was genuine -- or just a diversion, meant to throw the police off the scent.

[robinlynne]

17. right but someone said there was a terrorist? I understood a racist note written by an American.

where did the "terrorist' come from?

[pnwmom]

20. Sorry if my use of the term confused you. The note in this situation was intended to cause terror,

therefore the person, if he existed, was a type of terrorist, just as an IRA murderer would be a terrorist.

[robinlynne]

25. ahhh. got it.

[RKP5637]

18. You make an excellent point about it 'possibly' having been a "diversion, meant to throw

the police off the scent."

[pnwmom]

21. Remember Susan Smith, with her story of black men

who had killed her family?

She wasn't the first murderer who tried to scapegoat a vulnerable/unpopular target, and she won't be the last.

Maybe that's not what's happening in this situation. I just don't think we have nearly enough information yet to decide either way.

[patrice]

24. Odd, how many Americans think that an entire nation, Iraq, will just forget.

[jjewell]

2. Very sad...

I'm waiting for Geraldo Rivera to announce that her hijab was just as
responsible for her death as the the murderers with the tire iron....

This is really a mean time in America.

[RKP5637]

19. It's really getting revolting. Hatred seems to be the #1 US product these days. I'm really fed up

with all of the hatred and insanity anymore. No matter who you are or what you do, you can be sure about 1/2 of the country hates you.

[hlthe2b]

3. Probably the same ilck that rants and raves about Sharia Law and how superior WE are...

in terms of the way we treat women... May the culprit rot in whatever hell is possible.

[griloco]

4. The note could be a red herring n/t

[pnwmom]

12. That's true. Anyone who wanted to divert suspicion

could have written it. A business associate with a grudge, a loan shark, a family member . . . it's way to early to jump to conclusions.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. K&R. This is truly unspeakable...

[SHRED]

6. The police are not ruling out anything

That note could be a diversionary tactic.


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[itsrobert]

7. Yup

most likely was.

[2banon]

8. omg.. I havn't heard anything of this story mentioned at all until I saw this report here tonight

hatred that inspires these kinds of actions were not long ago considered to be something that happened on the Continent of Africa, or Kosovo and Bosnia or in the Deep South of this country decades ago.

I am so sickened and sick to death of all of this.. no words..

[Obamacare]

9. I wonder why we haven't heard anything about this story.

If this woman was Jewish and a hate note was left near her body, this story might even trump Trayvon's murder in the eyes of the media.

[pnwmom]

13. I've been hearing about this story for days. It's not being hidden.n/t

[aptal]

26. I am not so sure about that...

I have been hearing about it for a few days.

[Douglas Carpenter]

22. The ONLY reason that there is all this dismissiveness and all these snarky remarks is because

an Arab/Muslim was murdered. If this had been a black person, a Jew, a gay person or any other marginalized group - people might legitimately wonder if there was some other story behind it. Fair enough. All possibilities need investigation. But we certainly wouldn't hear all these cold, sardonic and dismissive remarks. Just look at the attitude right here on this thread - "oh, well it was probably another Muslim who did it - must of been, bet it was!" Everyone would know that such baseless speculating that borderlines on assuming would sound insensitive and cruel and would be considered socially unacceptable if it was some other group. This is happening even here on an ostensibly liberal forum ONLY because it was an Arab and a Muslim who was murdered. Let's be honest now. That is the ONLY reason.

[patrice]

23. To treat a note as ANY words wrtten by ANY -one is not dismissive. It is the opposite of dismissive.

Respect for what you don't know is also respect for what you do know.