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Pussy Riot punk prayer "Virgin Mary, Put Putin Away" w/English. ARE THESE WOMEN AWESOME OR WHAT? (Original Post) uhnope Mar 2014 OP
Punk will never die as long as practitioners like PR live on!!!! Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #1
No. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #2
Not only "no" but fug "no"! rdharma Mar 2014 #3
The two Kremlin reps on DU, right on cue uhnope Mar 2014 #4
Nice unsubstantionated personal attack. rdharma Mar 2014 #5
lol. nice try. it's not a personal attack to expose your pattern of defending Putin, the dictator, uhnope Mar 2014 #6
Tell us about YOUR motivation, my RW friend. rdharma Mar 2014 #7
Oh I see. So now you're back to Ukraine. What a coincidence. uhnope Mar 2014 #8
And yet you often chose dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #9
ungarble that post to make your point clearly uhnope Mar 2014 #12
I wasn't looking for a reply dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #13
BTW what do you think of Putin? uhnope Mar 2014 #14
He is the President of Russia dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #15
oh really? It's not appropriate to comment about the dictator Putin? uhnope Mar 2014 #16
Talk about a wimpy answer. n/t Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #17
Hitler was chancellor of Germany. I wouldn't classify him as just 'is' anymore than I roguevalley Mar 2014 #23
I'll take that one.. Putin is an asshole.. I don't care what the Putin Fan club Cha Mar 2014 #22
Well, given that this was never a post about Ukraine, but about Pussy Riot Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #18
neo-Nazi head-banger crap? blackspade Mar 2014 #21
Wow they've got BALLS!!! Theyletmeeatcake2 Mar 2014 #10
They are pretty awesome rumdude Mar 2014 #11
Thank you for the translation... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #19
Awesome is as awesome does! blackspade Mar 2014 #20
It's pretty horrendous music. Inkfreak Mar 2014 #24
 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
3. Not only "no" but fug "no"!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:59 PM
Mar 2014

They really suck! That shit isn't any better than neo-Nazi head-banger crap.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
6. lol. nice try. it's not a personal attack to expose your pattern of defending Putin, the dictator,
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:30 PM
Mar 2014

every chance you get, and to denigrate anything that reflects badly on Putin, like Pussy Riot.

Did you know that DU is for progressives?

Did you know that the opposite of progressive is support for a dictator, especially a dictator that is squashing gay rights, closing down independent media and wrecking democracy as actively as Putin is?

Of course you know that. You aren't stupid. You are consciously pro-Putin. Why don't you just come out and tell us all about your motivation?

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
7. Tell us about YOUR motivation, my RW friend.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:40 PM
Mar 2014

Please tell how the interim govt. will stand up for gay rights.

Please tell us how the interim govt. will stand up to neo-Nazi fascist thugs in their midst.

Sweet Jesus on a bike, please tell us ANYTHING that tells us you have an idea of what's going on in the region!

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
8. Oh I see. So now you're back to Ukraine. What a coincidence.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:55 PM
Mar 2014

What a coincidence you support Putin's incursion in the Ukraine's Crimea region and also oppose Pussy Riot which has nothing to do with Ukraine but everything to do with exposing Putin's Russian dictatorship.

The common denominator: you support Putin. You support the Putin dictatorship. Whether that means dissing Pussy Riot or supporting the takeover of Crimea or whatever the issue is.

And when asked directly to explain yourself, you deflect. You call it "straw man" or accuse the question of being "RW". RW--what a laugh since I've mentioned gay rights in Russia and support for Pussy Riot, both of which are the opposite of RW.

You want me to explain myself? Sure. Uncompromising proponent of human rights, of democracy over dictators, of gay rights, of freedom of speech, etc. I have fought neo-Nazis in Eastern Europe. I've both lived in Eastern Europe and stayed in the Ukraine and Crimea. I have several close friends who are Russian Ukrainians, who despite being ethnic Russians, despise Putin and recognize him as another dictator in the Stalin mode.

There's no excuse for being pro-Putin, but in this world of FOX/RT, ridiculousness knows no bounds. So, your turn. Second chance. Explain yourself.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
9. And yet you often chose
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:19 PM
Mar 2014

to pursue unrelated subjects concerning Russia generally classed in with the price of eggs.

As the subject here is actually Pussy Riot if you've not done so then you might want to search Voina and sex in public in a museum.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. I wasn't looking for a reply
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:58 PM
Mar 2014

"What's that got to do with the price of eggs" denotes an irrelevance or non sequitur in a current discussion.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
16. oh really? It's not appropriate to comment about the dictator Putin?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:21 PM
Mar 2014

Very interesting. I don't know how you can say comment is not "needed." That's the essence of free speech. It's also the essence of the fight for human rights in the world--we comment, we agitate, we fight for human rights all around the globe.

So, what do you think of Putin's crackdown on gay rights?
What do you think of the hard prison time for Pussy Riot's protest?
What's your comment on Putin's amassing of power for 20 years?
How about the closing of the independent TV stations in Russia?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
23. Hitler was chancellor of Germany. I wouldn't classify him as just 'is' anymore than I
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:34 AM
Mar 2014

would cut Cheney/Bush any slack. Putin in a fucking criminal and may Pussy Riot who forgot more about courage than this entire board will ever know live on forever. IMO.

Cha

(297,322 posts)
22. I'll take that one.. Putin is an asshole.. I don't care what the Putin Fan club
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:28 PM
Mar 2014

has to say about him.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
18. Well, given that this was never a post about Ukraine, but about Pussy Riot
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:04 PM
Mar 2014

my motivation is to call you out on your bullshit. I really don't know what the new Ukrainian government is going to do about gay rights. But I do know that Pussy Riot is out there defending them, often at great personal risk to themselves.

And that makes them a hell of a lot cooler than you and Putin.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
21. neo-Nazi head-banger crap?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:03 PM
Mar 2014

Such as what?
Why are you linking metal with Neo-Nazies?
And how are they sick?
Please define your terms.

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
10. Wow they've got BALLS!!!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:23 PM
Mar 2014

May need a few music lessons but A for effort...don't think any western state is any better in how it treats people that have an agenda that's against the status quo...

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
24. It's pretty horrendous music.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 10:19 AM
Mar 2014

I saw the documentary on them and the Colbert Report had two members on for an interview. I was impressed with what they had to say and with their determination. They are some tough women.

I realize it's the message not the music. But yea..that's some pretty bad music. IMO. Like that song "Free Pussy Riot" tho. Catchy.

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