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Why Engagement Rings Are a Scam (Original Post) onehandle Feb 2014 OP
Yeah, I knew all that... CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2014 #1
I had no idea. Off to hock my wife's ring... onehandle Feb 2014 #2
As a wise woman once said, "I'd rather have a deed than a diamond." Squinch Feb 2014 #3
I'm glad I know now bayareaboy Feb 2014 #4
I have quite a few zircona rings, they're beautiful and inexpensive..n/t monmouth3 Feb 2014 #5
...And worth about as much WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2014 #7
And he didn't even get into conflict diamonds WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2014 #6
Not all engagement rings are diamonds. Neoma Feb 2014 #24
Go visit the Crown Jewels in London dickthegrouch Feb 2014 #8
Those Anglo Tory bastards stole them from India. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #12
dickthegrouch Diclotican Feb 2014 #26
ALL high priced pretty rocks are a scam groundloop Feb 2014 #9
exactly gopiscrap Feb 2014 #11
Diamonds are like credit derivatives, stay far away from both. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #10
No, diamonds have more intrinsic value than derivatives! eggplant Feb 2014 #13
I agree that Diamonds have an industrial use. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #15
Your argument doesn't make any sense whopis01 Feb 2014 #18
Brilliant analysis! Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #23
Oh no! You've divided by zero! We're all doomed! >poof< eggplant Feb 2014 #30
Great!!!! Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2014 #14
Excellent vid. Too bad it's true that people cling very tightly to societal rituals, even when those Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2014 #16
Its you and me babe....How about this red apple.....? bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #17
My wife wanted a cat instead of a ring CFLDem Feb 2014 #19
You have a "keeper"... how very nice and sexist of you... kiawah Feb 2014 #31
Seriously? CFLDem Feb 2014 #32
Mine was an opal EC Feb 2014 #20
got Mrs. Lib a small sapphire rurallib Feb 2014 #25
I've always been a rhinestone fan myself. They're pretty, they sparkle, what more do you need? DesertDiamond Feb 2014 #21
And that's not the only scam..... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #22
OMG!!!!!!!!! calimary Feb 2014 #27
Gives new meaning to the words: DeSwiss Feb 2014 #28
Not to mention "wrapped around my finger" Thor_MN Feb 2014 #33
Yeah but there's always pawn shops.... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #35
i always thought diamonds were bullshit. pansypoo53219 Feb 2014 #29
We took a sapphire drmeow Feb 2014 #34

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. I had no idea. Off to hock my wife's ring...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 01:37 PM
Feb 2014

Ok, not. But I am going to get it re-appraised for insurance.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
6. And he didn't even get into conflict diamonds
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:11 PM
Feb 2014

Another one of the diamond racket's dirty little secrets is that money from the diamond trade is funding several very nasty wars and propping up a number of brutal governments (mostly in Africa, thus mostly unreported elsewhere- I doubt the diamond money that goes to Israel is considered 'conflict' although it probably should be)

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
24. Not all engagement rings are diamonds.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:07 PM
Feb 2014

I don't get the point of diamonds. No color = boring to me. I got an emerald that looks like one of those lord of the rings ring.

dickthegrouch

(3,183 posts)
8. Go visit the Crown Jewels in London
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:26 PM
Feb 2014

I couldn't believe my eyes at the piles of diamonds in every case.

And Liz wants us to believe that she's broke? Now I know why.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
26. dickthegrouch
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:18 PM
Feb 2014

dickthegrouch

This diamonds who is in the tower of London, are not the property of the royal house - it is the property of the State.. Who now and then borrow it out to the royals when great celebration, and now and then a crowning is in order - Some of it goes back to ancient times - to the middle ages - but most of it, is from the 1600s when Charles II was crowned King after the horrible republic who was for 16 years...

Diclotican

groundloop

(11,521 posts)
9. ALL high priced pretty rocks are a scam
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:30 PM
Feb 2014

Young people are far far better off saving money for a down payment on a house rather than purchasing expensive jewelry.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
10. Diamonds are like credit derivatives, stay far away from both.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 02:43 PM
Feb 2014

Also, they are a far worse investment than gold.

eggplant

(3,912 posts)
13. No, diamonds have more intrinsic value than derivatives!
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:07 PM
Feb 2014

If you are ever trapped in a glass box, try cutting your way to freedom with credit derivatives.

Ok, that's the only example I can think of. But it's an example!

Of course, without gold we'd never have absurdly priced wire! See http://www.amazon.com/Monster-1000HD-2M-Ultra-High-Speed-meters/dp/B000UF3FT8

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
15. I agree that Diamonds have an industrial use.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:13 PM
Feb 2014

Industrial diamonds are usually sold at a fair value. The stuff you see in jewelry shops are never worth the price tag.

whopis01

(3,521 posts)
18. Your argument doesn't make any sense
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:38 PM
Feb 2014

A glass box would imply transparency and there is no way that credit derivatives could exist within a transparent system!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
16. Excellent vid. Too bad it's true that people cling very tightly to societal rituals, even when those
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:24 PM
Feb 2014

rituals involve something as nefarious as diamonds. Even when we discover we've been brainwashed, we have trouble rejecting what we were brainwashed to accept.

EC

(12,287 posts)
20. Mine was an opal
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:52 PM
Feb 2014

I wanted a ring that I wanted rather than one that was supposed to be the chosen stone. I don't like diamonds, too plain. I like opal, rubies, saphires, onyx and others. But not diamonds.

rurallib

(62,433 posts)
25. got Mrs. Lib a small sapphire
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:11 PM
Feb 2014

and the wedding ring is gold. It is different, it is distinctive (never seen another like it) and we were saving money for a house so it was {ahem} inexpensive.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
22. And that's not the only scam.....
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:05 PM
Feb 2014

...those rings will initiate.

- It's like a virtual marriage puddle with concentric scam circles emanating outward for eternity. Ring(s)-car(s)-mortgage(s)-college-fund(s)-401K(s)-Reversemortgage(s)-Nursing-Home(s)-Death. And then The Last Ring from LifeGem......

K&R

calimary

(81,417 posts)
27. OMG!!!!!!!!!
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:26 PM
Feb 2014

Are you kidding me?????

Actually, I know you're not, DeSwiss. I went on that site and was Holy-Shit-Dumbfounded! Gee, how nice! I'm gonna wear my dad/husband/mom/whoever on my finger… EEEEUUWWWW!!! That's pretty doggone REVOLTING!!! And the prices?!?!?! Shit!

Sweet God…

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
33. Not to mention "wrapped around my finger"
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 08:51 PM
Feb 2014

Almost literally, not that one's dead spouse can be persuaded to do anything more...

pansypoo53219

(20,987 posts)
29. i always thought diamonds were bullshit.
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 04:34 PM
Feb 2014

white is BORING. plus i prefer antiques. tho, i did see a nice older diamond ring, but it was the setting.

drmeow

(5,022 posts)
34. We took a sapphire
Tue Feb 18, 2014, 01:12 AM
Feb 2014

which was a gift from my grandmother in a ring that didn't fit and had it made into an engagement ring - there are some small diamonds around the stone for sparkle. It is beautiful and gets lots of compliments. Unique, too.

Most of the other diamonds in the house were gifted, inherited, or bought used.

Now, the strand of black pearls which I think were bought by my grandmother in Japan in the late 60's/early 70's - those I think have value (we still need to get it appraised).

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