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Who wants cuts to SS, Medicare, Medicaid? AFL-CIO Policy Director Damon Silvers Delivers the Truth (Original Post) mother earth Jan 2014 OP
Excellent job of keeping to message despite being the minority on the money loving cable channel... freshwest Jan 2014 #1
Wish I could rec this as well. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #5
Brits are there because networks think the accent adds *gravitas* to shilling for Wall St. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #6
I'm glad you told me. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #8
Every move made on MSM is choreographed for maximum psychological effect. After you catch on, it's freshwest Jan 2014 #11
Studies have show the British accent is more effective Enthusiast Jan 2014 #19
That is apparent in the number of British accents Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #23
After just watching this video . . . another_liberal Jan 2014 #12
DURec worthy! bvar22 Jan 2014 #2
The big problem is what will happen to the stock market when Baby Boomers start withdrawing JDPriestly Jan 2014 #16
Loved it! K&R NorthCarolina Jan 2014 #3
I'm with you....I will also withhold my support Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #4
I know you will investigate news blurbs suggesting they do, as possible RW diversions. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #7
Oh, I wasn't born yesterday. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #10
Similar roots. And I've lost family members due to 'pre-existing' and been bankrupted by 'junk' freshwest Jan 2014 #13
Forcing every American to buy Health Insurance from For Profit Corporations... bvar22 Jan 2014 #21
I also will not vote for or support any candidate who agrees to cuts to SS or Medicare. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #15
Damon Silvers is my new hero! another_liberal Jan 2014 #9
That is exactly what they want: a democracy of rich people. Only that isn't democracy. Not as JDPriestly Jan 2014 #14
k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #17
excellent! takes no shit! bowens43 Jan 2014 #18
K&R! That was a masterful job by Damon Silvers. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #20
K&R. So very glad he pointed out again and again the anchor was talking about rich people's opinions Overseas Jan 2014 #22

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
1. Excellent job of keeping to message despite being the minority on the money loving cable channel...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jan 2014
I recommend Jon Stewart's take down of the financial punditry:



Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. Wish I could rec this as well.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jan 2014

And why is it that there are so many British accents on these American news shows telling us how things should be done?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Every move made on MSM is choreographed for maximum psychological effect. After you catch on, it's
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jan 2014
like listening to someone you found out had been lying to you, playing a game to take advantage, putting on a act or whatever it's called. Everything that comes next is just noise, and it means less than nothing.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
19. Studies have show the British accent is more effective
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jan 2014

in convincing Americans to vote against their own best interests.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
23. That is apparent in the number of British accents
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:32 PM
Jan 2014

heard in these news features these days. I will have to remember this and train myself to think opposite of the trend, just in case it does influence me....although I don't think that it works for me, since I just get irritated to hear a foreign accent telling me what is best for me and my country. I have to remember that if they are bringing out the British accent, they are trying to convince me of something that is against my best interests.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. After just watching this video . . .
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:30 PM
Jan 2014

I have to say that Jon Stewart has not lost anything in all the many years he's been on television. This take-down is as sharp and as powerful as any he has ever done on the Conservatives and their bankrupt philosophy of wealth uber alles.

If anything, I would argue Jon Stewart is now better than he has ever been.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
2. DURec worthy!
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jan 2014

The Message Control memes are STRONG in what passes for our Media today.
This is exactly HOW these memes that "we must cut entitlements"
and "Everybody has already accepted that we must raise the retirement age"
should be met.

I reject the Premise that Social Security is a major problem for our economy in the near future.
That is a LIE being told by RICH people.
I wish our Democratic Party Leadership would be as direct in confronting these LIES.


#t=26
Is a simple, direct statement like the above too much to ask from our Democrats?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
16. The big problem is what will happen to the stock market when Baby Boomers start withdrawing
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:58 PM
Jan 2014

their 401(K) and other pension money from it. That's the big question.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
4. I'm with you....I will also withhold my support
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jan 2014

of any candidate who messes with SS and Medicare, or who even suggests that we should.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. Oh, I wasn't born yesterday.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:08 PM
Jan 2014

And I will put absolutely nothing past the RWNJ's. Voting records are easy enough to check, and I do. And I will give new on the campaign trail Dems a pass as long as they don't come out and say that they are willing to cut benefits. I remember the days before Medicare, and I lost both grandmothers to diseases that they could have survived if they could afford a doctor. I will not allow the country to go back to those days.

I do not remember before SS, but my mother did, and her memories of the times before there was any income for older people would break anyone's heart, if they listened.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Similar roots. And I've lost family members due to 'pre-existing' and been bankrupted by 'junk'
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:37 PM
Jan 2014

policies myself. That despite the ability to pay, but then, like the old 'sharecropper's deal' they change the rules in the middle as if your thousands of dollars meant nothing.

Regarding the 'pre-existing' scam, death is a pre-existing condition. We will all die, and the way we do it and how humane it is, or how long it can be avoided, has for too long been in the hands of those who will tell any lie to keep profits to themselves.

Regarding the 'junk' aspect, they go out of their way to not pay for a person to get well. Their bonuses depend on that... you're a just a few digits on their profit and loss sheet. If they don't make a profit, you can just go right ahead and die.

Your life or quality of life, your rights as a patient or consumer mean nothing. They don't call some in the companies 'head choppers' or 'gate keepers' for no reason.

The ACA is just a start, and I believe it is is meant to change the way we look at healthcare to more of the European model. As people benefit and are taken care of, they have more freedom and control over their lives, their ability to work, parent and be involved politically.

It also registers people to vote, as I found in a Daily Kos article. This is why the RWers hate it so much. And I can't go back to the other way, and the GOP knows it. We'll keep an eye out for distractions and diversions. The ones that bother me the most are those that appeal to selfishness and disrespect for others. This is learned from media and it's created a very hostile atmosphere for so many people in their country.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
21. Forcing every American to buy Health Insurance from For Profit Corporations...
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jan 2014

...will certainly change how Americans see Health Care in the USA.

"The Uniquely American Solution"...... indeed.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. I also will not vote for or support any candidate who agrees to cuts to SS or Medicare.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:57 PM
Jan 2014

As far as I am concerned any person who agrees to cuts in SS or Medicare is not a Democrat. Doesn't deserve the support of Democrats. Social Security and Medicare are what differentiate Republicans from Democrats. Absolutely no cuts and no chained CPI.

Baby Boomers provided generously for their parents and still paid enough in payroll taxes to provide for their own retirement. Cutting Social Security and Medicare is stealing from middle class and poor baby boomers.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. That is exactly what they want: a democracy of rich people. Only that isn't democracy. Not as
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jan 2014

long as some people are not rich. And I don't see the day coming when all Americans are rich.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. K&R! That was a masterful job by Damon Silvers.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jan 2014

And I agree with his position 100%.

If a "Democrat" supports raising the retirement age or Superlative or Chained CPI I will not support that "Democrat".

There will be no reason to support such a "Democrat".

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
22. K&R. So very glad he pointed out again and again the anchor was talking about rich people's opinions
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jan 2014

"Most people believe there will need to be entitlement cuts" -- Most rich people believe that.

I'm really glad he was persistent with that because it is a very important point. There is so much of the "most people" stuff pushed on TV and it often isn't true. Then the interviewer even said "Most people who understand the numbers..." Also not true. Glad Silvers clarified that again to be about most rich people who are afraid of their large incomes being taxed more.

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