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Guy Brings His White Girl To Barbershop In Harlem (Original Post) Quixote1818 Dec 2013 OP
Absolutely awesome! rustbeltrefugee Dec 2013 #1
Thanks for sharing this! Powerful message!! Myth #1: Black people have problems Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #2
I don't know if they are total myths... BUT I think much LESS true these days than it was. Tigress DEM Dec 2013 #5
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. As a black woman myself, I think you tell the truth... Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #14
First thing in the morning sammythecat Dec 2013 #3
What white girl? betsuni Dec 2013 #4
I too have issues with the boy/girl thingy. greiner3 Dec 2013 #6
The worst is "young girl" referring to a young woman betsuni Dec 2013 #12
Marsha Bonner is one of the finest human beings on the planet Small Accumulates Dec 2013 #7
She clearly is a beautiful, brilliant person! nt Quixote1818 Dec 2013 #10
"Sometimes you have to step up, chervilant Dec 2013 #8
this really helped me heaven05 Dec 2013 #9
These were great clips.... Hulk Dec 2013 #11
Religion is your cross to bear? kwassa Dec 2013 #13

rustbeltrefugee

(17 posts)
1. Absolutely awesome!
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 05:42 AM
Dec 2013

Staged, but well played. As a white guy married to a black woman that had me smiling and just feeling good!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
2. Thanks for sharing this! Powerful message!! Myth #1: Black people have problems
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:15 AM
Dec 2013

with interracial relationships. Myth #2: Black women especially have issues with black men who date/marry white women.

I hope this video helped set the record straight.

Rachel was awesome, minus the horrible wig!!

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
5. I don't know if they are total myths... BUT I think much LESS true these days than it was.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 09:47 AM
Dec 2013

ANY person who is secure in themselves isn't going to hate another woman for being with a good man. I think as a society we have moved forward on improving how women in general and pointedly black women feel about themselves by embracing them as beautiful as-is. Ironically, I think of how many people wished Michael Jackson had not destroyed his own black beauty with so much surgery. Add to that an A list of black models and the success of mags like Ebony and Jet to propel different but rockingly beautiful black women that did not exist years ago....

Toni Morrison's "The Bluest Eye" for example was not written about the "myth" that black girls are considered "less beautiful" by society. It was written BECAUSE OUR CULTURE makes it seem that if you are white and beautiful all your problems will be solved. (that IS a myth) BUT at least if you are a young blond haired, blue eyed girl the whole world will stop and look for you if you are missing. A sweet young black girl barely gets the attention of the local police if her mother raises holy hell there every day.

HOWEVER, the dating scene at times is not very logical and people use all kinds of reasons to project their own problems out onto others. I've actually heard black women say that it is hard for them to find good black men because the ones that work hard actually gravitate toward white women because they are easier to please. The gist of it, and this was back in the 80's when I had these conversations with friends, was that black women worked so much harder just to survive and they pushed their men so that the whole family moved forward, moved their generation forward to economic and other freedoms and that even though this was "good" it was really hard to find a man who would take all that on. (Black or white I told them.)

My friends would not have hated on that woman for dating a black man, but they might have shared with her their feelings of sadness about being rejected by strong black men in favor of white woman as a simple fact of their life. I am white and they had these conversations with me, though I wasn't dating a black man at that time, I had in the past.

Ironically, though, black men dating white women and finally being tolerated and accepted has helped in many ways too. So if we look at the whole picture, it's all good. People just each had to deal with their own pieces to get here.

What my friends said back in the 80's was that black women dating white men was looked down upon and that too has changed. Big thing is the couple themselves. They have to be happy with their choice and let the rest of the world feel whatever they do. Luckily love is like that, at least in the beginning, so the ice has been broken on many sides so that these days most of us don't see the "big deal" because we all have met bi-racial couples that are doing just fine.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
14. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. As a black woman myself, I think you tell the truth...
Wed Dec 25, 2013, 04:12 PM
Dec 2013

I used to think that I would only date and marry a black man. I no longer believe that, and I also believe that black women and come to the reality that this world allows us more opportunities. As a whole, we are not as closed off as perhaps many of us were once. It'll take too long to go into exactly what I mean, but more later.

In the meantime, Merry Christmas/Happy/Holidays/Seasons Greetings!!!

betsuni

(25,598 posts)
4. What white girl?
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 09:23 AM
Dec 2013

I only see a white woman. Misleading title. Why not "Boy Brings His White Girl To Barbershop in Harlem"? Hmmmm? If young women can be called girls then why aren't young men called boys? I don't get it.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
6. I too have issues with the boy/girl thingy.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:42 AM
Dec 2013

I've asked several women, late 20s-early 30s, and their attitude runs from "well it's a girl until she's 30" to "until she marries/has children" to "always" at least the female part; risking racial undertones as mentioned above.

When my 2 daughters reached 18 I started, and have since, referred to them as women, although they too sometimes refer to themselves as girls.

I sometimes think it's an age thingy as women are taught they should remain sex symbols until, well, nursing age; at least!

betsuni

(25,598 posts)
12. The worst is "young girl" referring to a young woman
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 06:52 PM
Dec 2013

I think of a twelve-year-old when someone is described as a young girl. The other day I was looking through a list of movie and came across one described as "a young girl's life in New York City." Well, I thought, I don't want to see a movie about a kid. On another list the same film was described as "a 22-year-old woman's adventures in New York City." Big difference. I'm constantly confused. I do, however, call grown adult cats "kitties," but that's different.

Small Accumulates

(149 posts)
7. Marsha Bonner is one of the finest human beings on the planet
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 10:46 AM
Dec 2013

I am privileged to have once worked beside her. I so greatly admire her and what she has done. Bringing tears to my eyes.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
8. "Sometimes you have to step up,
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:06 AM
Dec 2013

so that you don't fall back."

So many of us would do well to heed these words.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. this really helped me
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:57 AM
Dec 2013

cause I get pretty hateful at times toward all people because of the ignorance and hate on both sides of the color line. Thank you.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
11. These were great clips....
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 02:30 PM
Dec 2013

...I just wonder how many clips that didn't work out we missed?

I once traveled through Mexico City, and was staying in a hostel. A young Mexican girl was being interviewed by a journalist from Southeast Asia, Malaysia I think, and he was asking her about her experience living in New Orleans. He asked about the prejudice that she experienced, and then asked about the prejudice she witnessed. The young Mexican girl had lived there for about a year, and what she said woke me up to something I was ignorant to. She said she actually witnessed prejudice by the blacks toward whites much worse than what she witnessed from whites on blacks and Hispanics.
I guess that shouldn't surprise me, since the blacks have been down trodden from centuries, and are still climbing out of it. But what this last lady said was what the black folks in this country need to practice as well: We ALL need to treat others with respect.
I traveled through the South after that experience, and maybe I was looking for it, but I had never been treated so rudely by people of color as I was treated when I drove through New Orleans. It was beyond my imagination. It was like many of them had a read grudge against ME personally. Something to just consider.
I live up in the Northwest, and I've done military time, and I've never really had a close black friend. I've had close Asian friends and Hispanic friends, but never had a close relationship with a black individual. But I honestly feel I could and would accept them as a human being, and not a person of any color. Wish I could say the same for my tolerance of religion. When you wear it on your sleeve, I detest it, no matter what religion it might be: Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu. I just have a personal problem with having to stare at someone's religion. Still my cross to bear.

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