10 Inconvenient Facts Both Parties Love To Ignore

[dcmfox]

Wanted to get DU'ers opinion on this one. 10 caught my eye as well as others




After all this slaughtering of sacred cows, it’s now time to blow up the entire cattle ranch. Obama is perhaps the thing hardcore Dems love most about their party: a talented, urbane intellectual who just happens to be objectively worse than even Richard Nixon.

I kid you not: A recent study by the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) found the Obama administration had pursued the most aggressive war on journalists since the Nixon years. By prosecuting more than twice the number of journalists and leakers under the Espionage Act than every single previous administration combined, the Obama White House was found to have created a climate of fear described by the CPJ as “chilling.” The American Civil Liberties Union, meanwhile, is suing the Obama Department of Justice for shredding the Fourth Amendment. Even former Obama nuts in the liberal press have declared the President “worse than Bush” for his casual disregard of civil liberties and journalists’ rights. Yet Dems everywhere continue to paint him as some sort of cross between Gandhi and Jesus, a poor, hand-tied President who is trying his best but can’t close down Guantanamo because of those nasty Republicans. Well, I’ve got news for you guys: If the President can’t get his own way even after five years on the job—well, then let’s just say you’ve elected yourselves a pretty crappy President.




http://listverse.com/2013/10/25/10-inconvenient-facts-both-parties-love-to-ignore/

[Thinkingabout]

1. Do you work for FOX? Just saying, your link looks a lot like links I receive

From RWers.

[emsimon33]

2. Too many of today's leaders in the Democratic Party are among the best Republican

leaders in the traditional sense of Republican. Take my two senators from Virginia. They may be socially more "liberal" than a member of the Tea Party, but they, and too many other "Democrats," make Nixon look like a socialist.

The problem is not with self-identifying Democrats who are just regular citizens but with a corrupt political system that is little more than a fascist plutocracy. We need to significantly reform how elections are conducted and paid for as well as how candidates are chosen and permitted a platform to present their ideas.

The 1992 election where Ross Perot spoke the truth in the debates and called out both Bush the First and Clinton on their bullshit was the last time a third party candidate was actually permitted to participate. In fact, the presidential debates were taken away from the League of Women Voters and placed under basically the Democratic and Republican Parties...so long any real open debate on issues.

At some point, people will get fed up enough to vote for the public interest and not that of the 1-2% and corporations.

TPP may be the tipping point.

[Historic NY]

3. So let me guess the 95% of the..

people at Listverse aren't even Americans....thats a bit inconvenent wouldn't you say.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

4. Some of this stuff has been debunked...

But I like several references to "sophisticated techniques" for calculating something that hasn't happened (a rise in the minimum wage) in quite some time, and didn't cause a wave of youth unemployment (which when you get down to it, a lot of teens work because they have to help support their families, I know that's why I worked through high school instead of studying my ass off).

I call bullshit on this. Besides, a good portion of the writers come from Cracked, and Cracked can't get much of what they publish correct, and they don't publish anything noteworthy.

[Warpy]

5. 9, 5, and 3 are highly debatable

So debatable that Morris's claim that he is starving is the one thing I believe most about this one. He's going to have a better grip on the facts before anybody is going to pay him for this.

5 is the one I want to box his ears over. Morris just relied on ultra short term studies. Shame on him. Increases in the minimum wage result in increases in employment as demand picks up. It just takes time. That's why no businessman has ever called for a rollback on the minimum wage six months out.

[broiles]

6. You need to get your post count up before you start slamming POTUS.

[dcmfox]

7. wtf does that mean?

On this site, really? I do post in other places sir, perhaps the points you speak of and wtf is slamming?

Tell me if you think I'm a republican..



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[cali]

8. something smells about that site and its guise of "fairness"

and dog knows I'm not hesitant criticize administration policies that I oppose. Hell, a sizable cadre of _ _ _ hats around here falsely insist that I hate the President and America. (please see my tagline).

but c'mon, this is just dog shit "journalism":

"Right now, the touchy-feely, sunshine-and-pixie-dust Democrats are overseeing the largest mass surveillance of innocent people in Western history—....."

Seriously? "touchy-feely, sunshine-and-pixie-dust Democrats?

And this dog shit?

"They’ve become the party of drone strikes and domestic spying, with Tea Partiers like Rand Paul basically taking the Democrat initiative on stuff like drones and throwing it back in their faces. They’ve done everything they once hated Bush for doing and then made it worse—but it no longer seems to matter because now “their team” is in charge. The Republicans may have become the party of clueless ideologues, but the Democrats have sold their souls."

Jaysus, poster. what. the. fuck. LIES and bullshit. Rand Paul has fucking not taken the dem initiative. That would be Ron Wyden followed by Senators Udall and Leahy.

don't use right wing slime on DU and expect back slaps, hon.

[Enrique]

9. good post, but not video and multimedia

yes, as others have pointed out, the points are debatable, but so what?

[rock]

10. Just one point

"...the Obama administration had pursued the most aggressive war on journalists since the Nixon years," Now that journalists can blatantly lie in their reporting, perhaps they're the ones to blame.

[marble falls]

11. Good post. The sources are not many here's favorites, but there are some valid points ....

bound to rile up those who think that any questioning of the POTUS is treason. Which I would point out was the same thing W's and Ronnie Raygun's supporters used to say, too.

Just wish it weren't so Fox heavy.

[dcmfox]

12. I can't stand republicans

well the moderate ones are ok

[marble falls]

13. Ya know there are progressive Republicans, too, right?