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clips from 1972 documentary about an evangelist con artist Marjoe (Original Post) BootinUp Oct 2013 OP
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1
I remember that clown. Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #2
"Glory Gee to Beezus!"--Marjoe Gortner Warpy Oct 2013 #3
I agree that he was trying to blow the lid off evangelism in this documentary. murielm99 Oct 2013 #5
Absolutely Marjoe was doing an exposé. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #11
I've seen people get in a large circle and men stand behind every one of them. The minister is in libdem4life Oct 2013 #4
I loved his film "When you comin' back, red ryder?" Tx4obama Oct 2013 #6
now that is one freaky movie Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #10
There was a rumor that a sequel was in the works Francois Jeopardy Oct 2013 #7
This from the past, too Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2013 #8
it is a great documentary and there are any number of this kind of con artist. But it would be a Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #9
He was in the Marcus-Nelson Murders, the pilot for Kojak BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #12
I found the full documentary here on youtube - it is one hour and 28 minutes long Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #13
Thanks! BootinUp Oct 2013 #14

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
2. I remember that clown.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:06 AM
Oct 2013

He sort of tried to blend rock star appearance with an evangelist program. He didn't last long.

Warpy

(111,324 posts)
3. "Glory Gee to Beezus!"--Marjoe Gortner
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:10 AM
Oct 2013

He wanted to blow the lid off what a racket evangelism was. Unfortunately, people who believe that stuff only clung harder to their beliefs.

The rest of us had all our suspicions about those tent revivals confirmed.

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
5. I agree that he was trying to blow the lid off evangelism in this documentary.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:23 AM
Oct 2013

I think some of the people here who are commenting have not seen it.

I ordered it recently from Netflix and watched it again. In some ways, it is dated. It was interesting to see how many people still smoked. And the slang was so drug-oriented.

Marjoe was taught to be a con artist, from the time he was a child evangelist.

This documentary came out just about the time all the televangelists were getting off the ground. They are no different from Marjoe, and I wish more people had taken warning, before people like Pat Robertson became so powerful.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. Absolutely Marjoe was doing an exposé.
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 07:11 PM
Oct 2013

After having been raised in this culture and made to perform on stage from the time he was a small child, he managed to de-program himself and made one last tour of the circuit for the purpose of filming this documentary.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. I've seen people get in a large circle and men stand behind every one of them. The minister is in
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:10 AM
Oct 2013

the middle and starts this stuff like Marjoe, and goes around the circle putting his hands on their foreheads and I've seen it with my own eyes, not even a push, and people fall straight backwards and the others catch them. It's called "slaying in the Spirit". Usually, if you don't go down, it means you weren't healed or are an unbeliever. I know that goes on at that Cruz church.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
6. I loved his film "When you comin' back, red ryder?"
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:49 AM
Oct 2013

It is just about never shown on TV anymore and never has been released on dvd - but I found the whole film on YouTube a few months ago.

Rated R.





A terrifying and very obscure thriller from 1979, this film stars Marjoe Gortner as a psychotic Vietnam vet who holds an entire diner full of people hostage, forcing them to act out a demented play of his improvised creation. Co-starring Peter Firth, Pat Hingle, Candy Clark, Hal Linden, and Lee Grant. Rated R, for mature audiences only due to graphic language and scenario.


More info here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080129/

p.s. The first half of the film sets everything up for the explosive last half


 
7. There was a rumor that a sequel was in the works
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 02:03 AM
Oct 2013

about Marjoe and his later years as an actor and onward. Supposedly it was one of the makers of the original and the guy behind the doc "Paul Williams: Still Alive" that is behind this.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
9. it is a great documentary and there are any number of this kind of con artist. But it would be a
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 09:44 AM
Oct 2013

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mistake to imagine that all or most fundamentalist/Pentecostal type preachers are conscious and intentional con artist. There are a lot more poor preachers than there are rich ones. The biggest problem lies not with the willful con artist preachers - but with the true believers who spread this destructive and self-destructive message - not out of avarice but out of complete and utter sincerity.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
12. He was in the Marcus-Nelson Murders, the pilot for Kojak
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:41 AM
Oct 2013

Pretty awesome for a TV movie. He played the real killer. Very well, I might add.

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