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Jimmy Kimmel asks which is better, ACA or Obamacare? (Original Post) ffr Oct 2013 OP
Uninformed Idiot America Lives. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #1
Unfortunately, they vote, too! TheDebbieDee Oct 2013 #26
I did the same experiment on my mom - same results tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #2
That Was Priceless Stainless Oct 2013 #3
Thank you. That is hysterical. Just posted to my facebook. lamp_shade Oct 2013 #4
Well ya know, Amerika is stoopid! SoapBox Oct 2013 #5
/sigh Wait Wut Oct 2013 #6
OMG SmittynMo Oct 2013 #7
Progressives should put Conservative MythosMaster Oct 2013 #14
Why do people voice their opinions if they are clueless? JDPriestly Oct 2013 #22
Yeah - I don't like either one! Plucketeer Oct 2013 #8
Painful as this is to watch, I think it is actually helpful in educating people. RedSpartan Oct 2013 #9
These are the people complaining Flo Mingo Oct 2013 #10
oh my goodness. I had no idea.. robinlynne Oct 2013 #11
Just linked to your post at Twitter. madfloridian Oct 2013 #12
Right Wing Media has been telling everyone "Obamacare" is free healthcare for black people,... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #13
it's the opposite of a McNugget Enrique Oct 2013 #15
...and they vote. KansDem Oct 2013 #16
for people like Ted Cruz.......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #46
someone should do a nationwilde poll! shireen Oct 2013 #17
It's been done...... results similar to Kimmel's. rdharma Oct 2013 #18
The ACA covers ignorant people, Obamacare does not Coyotl Oct 2013 #19
lol grantcart Oct 2013 #24
Burton LaFlore, Democratic candidate for AL Dist. 1 feels the same way. trof Oct 2013 #20
Would you really want him to represent you if he doesn't know that? mucifer Oct 2013 #47
No. I will hold my nose and vote for the least objectionable repug. trof Oct 2013 #50
That's why it's so important to keep informing people without insulting them. nolabear Oct 2013 #21
Same thing when you tell old teabaggers that their Medicare is socialized medicine. Rozlee Oct 2013 #23
I hit the righties in my life with that, too. You can get em on schooling, toby jo Oct 2013 #25
Medicare is not socialized medicine, though. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #34
Ah! Thanks for the clarification. Rozlee Oct 2013 #35
You're more than welcome! Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #36
I hope every one of these ignorant opinionated fools watches themselves on TV cui bono Oct 2013 #27
geez heaven05 Oct 2013 #28
You made me look stupid - NO, your did a fine job of that all by your self liberal N proud Oct 2013 #29
This is because of the culture of having to always be right. Neoma Oct 2013 #49
Stop. Copy Link. Post to your facebook accounts. Sky Masterson Oct 2013 #30
I'm thinkin' that sheepal just repeat what some talkin' head says and ignors reality drynberg Oct 2013 #31
I bet everyone is a Fox News Viewer yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #32
Hilarious. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #33
Thats why rethugs call it Obamacare; they know people are stupid zebonaut Oct 2013 #37
In a year, when it's a success, the rethugs will call it Romneycare or Heritagecare. nt valerief Oct 2013 #40
Now that they think it's called that, SmittynMo Oct 2013 #43
OOOOOOOOOOOOO! BillyRibs Oct 2013 #38
Thank you, Jimmy! nt valerief Oct 2013 #39
what a good sport that lady is. nilram Oct 2013 #41
This thing has gone viral SmittynMo Oct 2013 #42
I wish they would have asked one more question and SmittynMo Oct 2013 #44
This is great! You have to laugh to keep from crying. pacalo Oct 2013 #45
K&R question everything Oct 2013 #48

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
2. I did the same experiment on my mom - same results
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:38 AM
Oct 2013

The irony is that labeling it 'Obamacare' perhaps has some short-term pitfalls with those who hate the President anyway, but in the history books, it will forever put a stamp of legacy on this legislation that rests squarely on his efforts to bring health care to those without it in America.

Yay!

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
6. /sigh
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:49 AM
Oct 2013

I'd say this is depressing, but I've seen so much idiocy surrounding the ACA that I've become jaded. Let them be dumb. Eventually, they'll have no choice but to figure it out.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
7. OMG
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:06 PM
Oct 2013

Did you notice anything labeled with "Obama", is bad for us? I also noticed a racial issue here, which is really sad. All the whites voted for the ACA, and not Obamacare. The one black voted for Obamacare. And the hispanic, said the name speaks for itself? OMG. And why did these people voice their opinions, if they knew they were clueless? I'm willing to bet that the ones against Obamacare, are republicants. Which also tells you of their ignorance and stupidity. I wish they would would have made a fool out of each and every one of them.

MythosMaster

(445 posts)
14. Progressives should put Conservative
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:38 PM
Oct 2013

in front of any bills they put on the floor....

The Conservative Affordable Healthcare Act, would sell!

You know those that were filmed would still be in denial after watching this...

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
22. Why do people voice their opinions if they are clueless?
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:22 PM
Oct 2013

Because they watch Fox News (or similar media) and think they are informed.

That's the power of propaganda.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
8. Yeah - I don't like either one!
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:18 PM
Oct 2013

See, I don't like Obamacare cause I don't like the idea of muslim medicine. And ACA? Who wants to be part of the American Communist Act??? I like a good ol' hospital emergency room! Love the exciting ride there with the sirens screaming and all the pretty lites flashing to clear the roads. After all, the fact that I had to put off whatever until it reached critical mass - shouldn't the hospital be GLAD to have me as a training aid???

RedSpartan

(1,693 posts)
9. Painful as this is to watch, I think it is actually helpful in educating people.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:21 PM
Oct 2013

Both the dopes they are interviewing and, more important, the audience watching at home.

Flo Mingo

(492 posts)
10. These are the people complaining
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:21 PM
Oct 2013

about the uninformed electorate who voted for Obama.

Stoopid is as stoopid is.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. Right Wing Media has been telling everyone "Obamacare" is free healthcare for black people,...
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:31 PM
Oct 2013

That's paid for by white people.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
18. It's been done...... results similar to Kimmel's.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:59 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/09/29/obamacare-affordable-care-act-obama-column/2892183/

"A recent CNBC poll found more Americans oppose ObamaCare than oppose the Affordable Care Act. But more Americans support ObamaCare than the Affordable Care Act.

Confused?

That would be understandable given that these are two names for the same law. CNBC polled two different groups, using "ObamaCare" for one and "Affordable Care Act" for the other. Forty-six percent of the group asked about "ObamaCare" opposed it. But only 37% of those asked about the health law opposed it.

Conversely, ObamaCare had higher support than the law. As CNBC put it, Obama's name "raises the positives and the negatives."

As a rational matter, this is nuts. An informed person should have the same opinions — positive or negative — about a piece of legislation regardless of what it's called. But because politics is so often driven by our attitudes toward specific personalities, for many Americans, their attitudes toward a monumentally significant piece of legislation are driven by something as petty as whether "Obama" is in the title."

trof

(54,256 posts)
20. Burton LaFlore, Democratic candidate for AL Dist. 1 feels the same way.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:08 PM
Oct 2013

He spoke to our local Democratic club last week.
We had to explain to him that ACA and 'Obamacare' were the same thing.


BTW, he has NO chance in a solid repug district.

trof

(54,256 posts)
50. No. I will hold my nose and vote for the least objectionable repug.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 06:26 PM
Oct 2013

In a runoff, it's a teabagger vs a guy who switched from Dem to repug in 1997.
I'll take the former Dem in the repug runoff and the general.
The teabagger scares the hell out of me.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
21. That's why it's so important to keep informing people without insulting them.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:18 PM
Oct 2013

I get mad at these kinds of folks for what they do to my life and the lives of many Americans, but I also feel sorry for them. Everyone wants to think he's well informed, and often believes he is, when in fact he's just been well manipulated. Our job is to gently, kindly guide them toward what's real. And that's what the facts of this thing will do, at least those who can be guided. The others? Well, they'll get to benefit too. I'll think of it as a particularly nasty illness on their part and hope for a cure.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
23. Same thing when you tell old teabaggers that their Medicare is socialized medicine.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:36 PM
Oct 2013

I thought an argument I had once with one of my husband's old military cronies was going to come to blows after I told him his TRICARE was socialized medicine and so had our Army healthcare when we were active duty. He served partly during the Cold War era and angrily informed me that he deserved his military healthcare and was enraged when I cracked up and told him he was fighting the Evil Socialist Empire for the honor of serving in a socialist organization and having socialist health care.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
25. I hit the righties in my life with that, too. You can get em on schooling,
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:07 PM
Oct 2013

roadwork, the fired dept., the police dept, the park systems, etc.

It just blows their minds.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
34. Medicare is not socialized medicine, though.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:06 PM
Oct 2013

The medical costs are socialized (it's a single-payer system), but the providers are either private or public. So, even saying that Medicare is "socialized medicine" is incorrect. The costs are socialized in terms of payment, but so is every insurance entity then. The delivery (the medicine part) is still either private or public.

An example of "socialized medicine" would be the VA.

Just to make a comparison.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
35. Ah! Thanks for the clarification.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:30 PM
Oct 2013

I use the VA system, but I know Rethugs have long had a hardon for privatizing it. I like it just the way it is.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
36. You're more than welcome!
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:05 PM
Oct 2013

The Republicans want to privatize everything, and we need to fight them every step of the way.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
27. I hope every one of these ignorant opinionated fools watches themselves on TV
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:23 PM
Oct 2013

and hears the audience laughing at them.

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
29. You made me look stupid - NO, your did a fine job of that all by your self
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:41 PM
Oct 2013

Uninformed America thanks to the "librul media"

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
49. This is because of the culture of having to always be right.
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 03:06 PM
Oct 2013

A sign of someone who makes room to be wrong is someone who actually asks questions of say, the difference between ACA and Obama care. Clearly all these people don't truly know, but they pretend to know it. There isn't a difference between the two, but thinking there is, is a natural response to a question that does separate something they don't know much about.

That's what I have problems with, people who don't ask questions and thinks they know enough to argue the topic to the death and state their opinions down firm on something they don't really know about.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
30. Stop. Copy Link. Post to your facebook accounts.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:05 PM
Oct 2013

Proof that people hate what they don't understand.
Hmmm..So, If you get people to not understand something, then they will fear it an probably tend to hate it.
Fascinating...

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
31. I'm thinkin' that sheepal just repeat what some talkin' head says and ignors reality
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:16 PM
Oct 2013

This is very sad, and makes me think that s/he who can get Americans to really listen will call the shots, y'know, be in the Oval Office. Any ideas as to how this could be done?

 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
37. Thats why rethugs call it Obamacare; they know people are stupid
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:44 PM
Oct 2013

Why did we let them call it Obamacare?????

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
43. Now that they think it's called that,
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 09:19 PM
Oct 2013

it's gives them one more reason to hate it. Anything tagged with his name must mean it's bad, bad, bad. The hatred of the right comes out again, and again.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
44. I wish they would have asked one more question and
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 09:22 PM
Oct 2013

then made total fools out of each and every one of them, by telling them its the same thing. And the other question would have been: What news channel do you frequent?

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
45. This is great! You have to laugh to keep from crying.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:19 PM
Oct 2013

It's a testament to Fixed News & all the Chuck ("fact-checking is not my job&quot Todds out there. This is their handiwork -- the fruit of their labor.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
48. K&R
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 02:01 PM
Oct 2013

No different from 2009 when a would be Teabagger demanded that the government not touch his Medicare..

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