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(51,122 posts)TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)The irony is that labeling it 'Obamacare' perhaps has some short-term pitfalls with those who hate the President anyway, but in the history books, it will forever put a stamp of legacy on this legislation that rests squarely on his efforts to bring health care to those without it in America.
Yay!
Stainless
(718 posts)Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people!
lamp_shade
(14,835 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I'd say this is depressing, but I've seen so much idiocy surrounding the ACA that I've become jaded. Let them be dumb. Eventually, they'll have no choice but to figure it out.
Did you notice anything labeled with "Obama", is bad for us? I also noticed a racial issue here, which is really sad. All the whites voted for the ACA, and not Obamacare. The one black voted for Obamacare. And the hispanic, said the name speaks for itself? OMG. And why did these people voice their opinions, if they knew they were clueless? I'm willing to bet that the ones against Obamacare, are republicants. Which also tells you of their ignorance and stupidity. I wish they would would have made a fool out of each and every one of them.
MythosMaster
(445 posts)in front of any bills they put on the floor....
The Conservative Affordable Healthcare Act, would sell!
You know those that were filmed would still be in denial after watching this...
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Because they watch Fox News (or similar media) and think they are informed.
That's the power of propaganda.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)See, I don't like Obamacare cause I don't like the idea of muslim medicine. And ACA? Who wants to be part of the American Communist Act??? I like a good ol' hospital emergency room! Love the exciting ride there with the sirens screaming and all the pretty lites flashing to clear the roads. After all, the fact that I had to put off whatever until it reached critical mass - shouldn't the hospital be GLAD to have me as a training aid???
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)Both the dopes they are interviewing and, more important, the audience watching at home.
Flo Mingo
(492 posts)about the uninformed electorate who voted for Obama.
Stoopid is as stoopid is.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)That's paid for by white people.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)shireen
(8,333 posts)Do you prefer the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare?
rdharma
(6,057 posts)"A recent CNBC poll found more Americans oppose ObamaCare than oppose the Affordable Care Act. But more Americans support ObamaCare than the Affordable Care Act.
Confused?
That would be understandable given that these are two names for the same law. CNBC polled two different groups, using "ObamaCare" for one and "Affordable Care Act" for the other. Forty-six percent of the group asked about "ObamaCare" opposed it. But only 37% of those asked about the health law opposed it.
Conversely, ObamaCare had higher support than the law. As CNBC put it, Obama's name "raises the positives and the negatives."
As a rational matter, this is nuts. An informed person should have the same opinions positive or negative about a piece of legislation regardless of what it's called. But because politics is so often driven by our attitudes toward specific personalities, for many Americans, their attitudes toward a monumentally significant piece of legislation are driven by something as petty as whether "Obama" is in the title."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)He spoke to our local Democratic club last week.
We had to explain to him that ACA and 'Obamacare' were the same thing.
BTW, he has NO chance in a solid repug district.
mucifer
(23,547 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)In a runoff, it's a teabagger vs a guy who switched from Dem to repug in 1997.
I'll take the former Dem in the repug runoff and the general.
The teabagger scares the hell out of me.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)I get mad at these kinds of folks for what they do to my life and the lives of many Americans, but I also feel sorry for them. Everyone wants to think he's well informed, and often believes he is, when in fact he's just been well manipulated. Our job is to gently, kindly guide them toward what's real. And that's what the facts of this thing will do, at least those who can be guided. The others? Well, they'll get to benefit too. I'll think of it as a particularly nasty illness on their part and hope for a cure.
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)I thought an argument I had once with one of my husband's old military cronies was going to come to blows after I told him his TRICARE was socialized medicine and so had our Army healthcare when we were active duty. He served partly during the Cold War era and angrily informed me that he deserved his military healthcare and was enraged when I cracked up and told him he was fighting the Evil Socialist Empire for the honor of serving in a socialist organization and having socialist health care.
toby jo
(1,269 posts)roadwork, the fired dept., the police dept, the park systems, etc.
It just blows their minds.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)The medical costs are socialized (it's a single-payer system), but the providers are either private or public. So, even saying that Medicare is "socialized medicine" is incorrect. The costs are socialized in terms of payment, but so is every insurance entity then. The delivery (the medicine part) is still either private or public.
An example of "socialized medicine" would be the VA.
Just to make a comparison.
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)I use the VA system, but I know Rethugs have long had a hardon for privatizing it. I like it just the way it is.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)The Republicans want to privatize everything, and we need to fight them every step of the way.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)and hears the audience laughing at them.
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Uninformed America thanks to the "librul media"
Neoma
(10,039 posts)A sign of someone who makes room to be wrong is someone who actually asks questions of say, the difference between ACA and Obama care. Clearly all these people don't truly know, but they pretend to know it. There isn't a difference between the two, but thinking there is, is a natural response to a question that does separate something they don't know much about.
That's what I have problems with, people who don't ask questions and thinks they know enough to argue the topic to the death and state their opinions down firm on something they don't really know about.
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Proof that people hate what they don't understand.
Hmmm..So, If you get people to not understand something, then they will fear it an probably tend to hate it.
Fascinating...
drynberg
(1,648 posts)This is very sad, and makes me think that s/he who can get Americans to really listen will call the shots, y'know, be in the Oval Office. Any ideas as to how this could be done?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)wotcha think?
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)zebonaut
(3,688 posts)Why did we let them call it Obamacare?????
valerief
(53,235 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)it's gives them one more reason to hate it. Anything tagged with his name must mean it's bad, bad, bad. The hatred of the right comes out again, and again.
BillyRibs
(787 posts)THE STUPID HURTS SO MUCH!
valerief
(53,235 posts)nilram
(2,888 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Sure says a lot for these uninformed FAUX viewers.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)then made total fools out of each and every one of them, by telling them its the same thing. And the other question would have been: What news channel do you frequent?
pacalo
(24,721 posts)It's a testament to Fixed News & all the Chuck ("fact-checking is not my job" Todds out there. This is their handiwork -- the fruit of their labor.
question everything
(47,485 posts)No different from 2009 when a would be Teabagger demanded that the government not touch his Medicare..