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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:13 PM Sep 2013

Violent Tea Party Mob Attacks Media.




Description from yt: This was filmed on the public lawn of the Arizona State Capitol on September 7, 2013 where the "We Are America Tour" added Arizona racist, former State Senate President President Russell Pearce. Pearce is famous for SB1070 and his association and endorsement of neo-Nazi JT Ready, who killed an entire family before killing himself in 2012. The local racists have worked closely with FAIR for years. I was there to film the speakers. It's a safe guess that if Minute Man Founder Chris Simcox wasn't sitting in jail for multiple counts of child molestation that he would've been a speaker at this event also. Is it any wonder why they didn't want the "liberal Media" filming them? For my own safety, I refused to leave without a police escort. It took over 7 minutes for any law enforcement to arrive. The video is edited only for length.

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Violent Tea Party Mob Attacks Media. (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 OP
Where was that? NT alfie Sep 2013 #1
az Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #2
updated the op with the context Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #4
big crowd they drew there.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #3
pretty sparse...nt Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #5
This needs to go viral so everyone gopiscrap Sep 2013 #6
They are biker gang thugs. RandiFan1290 Sep 2013 #7
Bunch of Thugs lib87 Sep 2013 #8
Sorry you had to deal with that Ahpook Sep 2013 #9
What? Why Pabst?? n/t Beartracks Sep 2013 #15
Pre-Hipster, Pabsts was the breakfast of backward, low class individuals. TalkingDog Sep 2013 #23
"The beer of the Army?" Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #31
Red neck, white socks & Blue Ribbon Beer? Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #26
The collective IQ must have been less than your shoe size! MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #10
Did The New Times have a reporter there? Downwinder Sep 2013 #11
. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #12
K&R! Light needs to be shown at the fringes so the people can see the result some of the Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #13
Permit? Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #14
Yeah, I think the permit is just to allow the event to take place. Beartracks Sep 2013 #16
A bagger for the most part sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #17
you just described two of my siblings. n/t LittleGirl Sep 2013 #18
Have you ever considered divorcing your family of origin? Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #27
I have actually LittleGirl Sep 2013 #30
Goebbles knew the power of propaganda. AAO Sep 2013 #41
I can empathize with your situation, as can a number of people on DU LongTomH Sep 2013 #50
Well, most of the people where I retired ARE poor IrishAyes Sep 2013 #33
The teabaggers are afraid... canuckledragger Sep 2013 #44
And the teabagger poor HAVE to believe that the ax will never fall on their own personal neck IrishAyes Sep 2013 #45
I'm sorry but AsahinaKimi Sep 2013 #19
I'm curious about those taking photos of you. Any idea who they were? nolabear Sep 2013 #20
I did not film this...nt Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #22
Oh, sorry. My misinterpretation. I'd still like to know, though. nolabear Sep 2013 #24
At least they were smart enough not to grab your camera but instead block your view. BB1 Sep 2013 #21
I became enraged watching this video. Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #25
If the camera'd had a Fox Noise sticker xfundy Sep 2013 #28
I thought these teabag freaks were supposed to be all about the Constitution. JeffHead Sep 2013 #29
At various times IrishAyes Sep 2013 #35
What are they so afraid of? HatTrick Sep 2013 #32
Cons always compare ... JEFF9K Sep 2013 #34
Here's what I don't get . . . MrModerate Sep 2013 #36
Pretty common these days to send a camera person to film your opponent Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #48
Ouch! And those unscripted moments . . . MrModerate Sep 2013 #52
By any other name The Wizard Sep 2013 #37
The STATE CAPITOL GROUNDS are PRIVATE PROPERTY NOW? EFFIN' FASCISTS! freshwest Sep 2013 #38
This is great, JimboBillyBubbaBob Sep 2013 #39
don't they know? Mkap Sep 2013 #40
Teabaggers are nazis workinclasszero Sep 2013 #42
"Don't cuss" they say as they are assaulting him. WhoIsNumberNone Sep 2013 #43
Bump for exposure of Tea Party. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #46
Why does it bother them so much that people are filming them? What are they hiding? fasttense Sep 2013 #47
Baggers ... The New Scientologists Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #49
The hell do those people think they're doing? shenmue Sep 2013 #51

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
6. This needs to go viral so everyone
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013

can see what a bunch of fucking assholes these tea party shit stains are are!

Ahpook

(2,750 posts)
9. Sorry you had to deal with that
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:19 PM
Sep 2013

And I applaud you for mixing it up with those freaks. Some of the comments are exceptionally fucked up. I wouldn't even begin to know how to respond to the nonsensical bullshit that comes from them.

They are trained parrots:

Squawk

Commie

Squawk

Socialist

Squawk blah, blah

Go drink a Pabst you fucking beer swilling puppets


MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
10. The collective IQ must have been less than your shoe size!
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 04:21 PM
Sep 2013

And, we've learned that the Capital is "private property"!

Wow! How'juh like that party getting a platform .... oh... they already do, sorry...

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
13. K&R! Light needs to be shown at the fringes so the people can see the result some of the
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 05:24 PM
Sep 2013

more mainstream views and where they originate!

Update please!

Sanddog42

(117 posts)
14. Permit?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 05:24 PM
Sep 2013

What was the basis of their contention that because they had a permit they had the right to ban you from the property? Is there any law that can be interpreted -- or even misinterpreted -- to support that?

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
16. Yeah, I think the permit is just to allow the event to take place.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 05:29 PM
Sep 2013

But the permit is not required to simply BE there.

Idjits.

=================

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
17. A bagger for the most part
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 05:30 PM
Sep 2013

is a 50s something, lower middle class bigot whose idea of liberty is not paying income taxes but getting benefits from those who do. They hate poor people because most poor people don't pay income taxes but still receive some benefits from society. The baggers think the poor are getting something for nothing they think they deserve but don't want to be poor to get. They are about the sorriest kind of people America produces after investment bankers.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
30. I have actually
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:59 PM
Sep 2013

My Mother and brother are liberal thinkers and they are the only ones I speak to. I haven't spoken to my sister in 2 yrs and my other brother that listens to Rush every day, like my sister, in almost a year. He refused to speak to my Mother after the November election. She was heart broken and furious at him. He finally admitted in December that he didn't want to speak to anyone in the family that voted for that n****r in the white house. Both of these siblings have divorced themselves from us.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
41. Goebbles knew the power of propaganda.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:25 PM
Sep 2013

They are brainwashed, pure and simple. We may need to send people to reeducation camps at some point. I think it's worth trying to save as many souls as possible.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
50. I can empathize with your situation, as can a number of people on DU
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:05 PM
Sep 2013

In my case it's a cousin on my Mom's side. She keeps Glenn Beckerhead's Agenda 21 on a reading stand like a devotional. I avoid political discussion (on my rare visits!); but, she always makes some comments about Obama, or unions, or just 'socialists.'

The last time I visited she bent my ear about how it was Obama's fault (through Obamacare) that her mother was discharged from the hospital a day early.

I remember an absolutely terrifying incident a couple of years ago, when I was riding with her. It was an icy snowy day and the roads were treacherous. She turned to me -- taking her eyes off the road -- and started up a rant about Obama and Acorn. Her face was absolutely distorted with hate! Her eyes were closed while she talked about hoping Air Force One would fly into a mountain!

I kept visiting, because, well, they're family, and largely for the sake of my late aunt. Now that my aunt has passed, I doubt that I'll see them more than a couple of times a year, at most.

The funny thing is, my mom was the quietest, gentlest soul you could ever want to meet. She wasn't political in any sense; but, a lot of her opinions could be called liberal. She thought that higher education, at the college level, should be provided free (as it actually was in California at the time). I think she'd be with us on the idea of single-payer healthcare.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
33. Well, most of the people where I retired ARE poor
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:21 PM
Sep 2013

So that means most of the local baggers are poor. But as John Steinbeck said, they think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. So they'll scream about blood sucking leeches on welfare but don't you dare touch their food stamps or throw them off Medicaid, etc. Maybe they excuse themselves by feeling they would work and/or get better wages if they only had opportunities, but these damned minorities keep taking all the jobs! (Never mind that the supposedly stolen jobs aren't here in the first place, and these baggers refuse to see they're being robbed blind by the really rich via corporate welfare etc.)

Of course every area is different. And I do realize that quite a few baggers are less than poor themselves - but terrified of becoming poor.

canuckledragger

(1,642 posts)
44. The teabaggers are afraid...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:24 AM
Sep 2013

of being treated the same way they themselves treat the poor, women and minorities.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
45. And the teabagger poor HAVE to believe that the ax will never fall on their own personal neck
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 09:35 AM
Sep 2013

because after all, they've kissed the feet of the rich faithfully, so they'll be exempt from the consequences - right? RIGHT??????

Fortunately not all the poor are ignorant and gullible. If outright armed revolution ever breaks out, you can expect at least some of the leaders to spring from their ranks. Unfortunately, armed revolutionaries all too often adopt the tactics of their oppressors and turn out to be no better at all in the end.

While holding tight my ultra-liberal beliefs, that's one reason I also remain an ardent supporter of center-left because there's the only real hope of progress w/o conflagration. Those who at least publicly claim to be far left (but are often libertarians, no better than RW teabaggers) seem to think they'll ride that tiger and come out ahead. They're too drunk on hubris to remember history. Very seldom does anyone really ride such a whirlwind unscathed. Far better to build on past advances and continue the progress - that's the Solidarity Democratic way, the only one that can be counted on to deliver and build w/o first destroying everything both good and bad.

Rant finished. For now.

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
20. I'm curious about those taking photos of you. Any idea who they were?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 05:56 PM
Sep 2013

It would be interesting to see the confrontation from the outside. From your perspective it must have been enraging.

BB1

(798 posts)
21. At least they were smart enough not to grab your camera but instead block your view.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:12 PM
Sep 2013

Seems to me they are evolving creatures after all

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
25. I became enraged watching this video.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:16 PM
Sep 2013

I would not have handled it as well as you did; well done.

I guess they realize that their argument is so weak it will not stand up to public scrutiny. Or that somehow the absolute containment of their message promotes an increase in their membership??( we don't need no stinken public relations).

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
28. If the camera'd had a Fox Noise sticker
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:36 PM
Sep 2013

they'd have let him right up front.

Truly, I fear for the nation.

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
29. I thought these teabag freaks were supposed to be all about the Constitution.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:43 PM
Sep 2013

Did they ever read it? I think it says something about freedom of the press. And how is a public park now all of a sudden private property? I don't get it.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
35. At various times
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:28 PM
Sep 2013

a particular hate group tries to look good and gain new members by attaching their program to something most people support; in this case the Constitution. But that doesn't mean they have any real concern for it. There true objective is raw, naked power in the service of hate, which generally seeks total destruction of its enemies, real or perceived. They no more care for the Constitution itself than the man in the moon.

HatTrick

(129 posts)
32. What are they so afraid of?
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:15 PM
Sep 2013

The guy has a camera. So, what?

What did they think he would film the secret handshake.

Afraid, the speaker might say something really stupid, or what?

Or, is it they don't want anyone near them that might have a different opinion?


JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
34. Cons always compare ...
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:25 PM
Sep 2013

Conservatives have been ordered by their media masters - talk radio and Fox News - to compare how peaceful the Tea Party rallies are compared with protests by the Occupy movement. Is it possible that they are wrong?

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
36. Here's what I don't get . . .
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 09:40 PM
Sep 2013

In what way does filming this event even bother the organizers? Wouldn't they 1) appreciate the chance that their message might be seen by people outside their circle, thereby increasing their influence, or 2) not give a damn?

Was the camerman wearing a provocative shirt or sign?

Also, while I accept that laws in Arizona are 'special,' how does having a permit for an event, to which people are allowed access without tickets, give you the right to deny access to anyone, short of there being a crowd-control concern? (And given the approximately 20-30 people in attendance, the word 'crowd' doesn't even come up.)

Or are these people just hopeless troglodytes?

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
48. Pretty common these days to send a camera person to film your opponent
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:01 PM
Sep 2013

just in case the candidate runs into a nut in a deli or other unscripted moment gets captured on video.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
52. Ouch! And those unscripted moments . . .
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:19 PM
Sep 2013

Often say everything you need to know about the candidate.

Notwithstanding very recent examples, there's Allen's historic "Macaca" moment, which arguably cost him his political career. And we won't even go into '47%' territory.

JimboBillyBubbaBob

(1,389 posts)
39. This is great,
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:11 PM
Sep 2013

I like the way they played right into your lens and microphone. A lot of gray hair but minimal gray matter. Wow!

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
47. Why does it bother them so much that people are filming them? What are they hiding?
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 11:56 AM
Sep 2013

Other's were there filming too. Why is this guy harassed and the other media not harassed?


Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
49. Baggers ... The New Scientologists
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:15 PM
Sep 2013

Another batshit crazy cult that is fighting it's leader's imaginary enemies.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
51. The hell do those people think they're doing?
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 03:16 PM
Sep 2013

What about freedom of the press do they not understand?

Since when does an average citizen need a license to take video? Aren't they proud of what they are saying, and why don't they want people to know about it?

A shrink would say that maybe deep down, they realize they're assholes, and can't deal with it.

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