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Will you buy this war? (Original Post) Bgno64 Sep 2013 OP
It doesn't matter if you buy it, you will however pay for it! liberal N proud Sep 2013 #1
K&R idwiyo Sep 2013 #2
We buy the President the same way that we buy our clothes and our cars... DreamGypsy Sep 2013 #3
A very appropriate song. zeemike Sep 2013 #4
Many people are incapable of learning the lessons of history cpwm17 Sep 2013 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #6
HEY, KERRY IS CARRYING WATER OF THE EMPIRE drynberg Sep 2013 #7

liberal N proud

(60,338 posts)
1. It doesn't matter if you buy it, you will however pay for it!
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013

Just like the last several wars, we all pay! The poor just have to pay more!

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
3. We buy the President the same way that we buy our clothes and our cars...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:56 PM
Sep 2013

...we buy everything from youth to religion and, at the same time, we buy our wars.

Jackson Browne wrote the song Lives in the Balance in 1986, at the time of the Ronald Raygun's (sic) covert war in Nicaragua and the Iran-Contra affair. The times were different, the cause was different, the people and countries involved were different, the political scene in the US was different, but many of the actions surrounding the current proposed action in Syria come out of the same playbook - a big advertising campaign based on fear, loathing, and arguable truths. The song is relevant again (or still). Most importantly, there are...lives in the balance.

The real lyrics are "They sell us the President the same way they sell us our clothes and our cars ..." but I have long thought that missed a bit of the tragedy: the American people bought Raygun's lies.



I've been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ear
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that you've seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war

And there's a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in places
Where their business interest runs

On the radio talk shows and the t.v.
You hear one thing again and again
How the USA stands for freedom
And we come to the aid of a friend
But who are the ones that we call our friends--
These governments killing their own?
Or the people who finally can't take any more
And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone
There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

There's a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we can't even say the names

They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us every thing from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear somebody asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But they're never the ones to fight or to die
And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
5. Many people are incapable of learning the lessons of history
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:24 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:22 AM - Edit history (1)

But this time it will be different and this war will be for legitimate reasons – fat chance.

It is only a coincidence that Syria has long been on the war-mongers dream hit-list. No, that can't have anything to do with this war. Clearly some people aren't that smart, but this time most of the American public isn't buying it. I hope that is a trend.

Response to Bgno64 (Original post)

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
7. HEY, KERRY IS CARRYING WATER OF THE EMPIRE
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 08:52 AM
Sep 2013

This is what he signed up to do by accepting Sec. of State. Now, this doesn't mean we don't catch him in lies, nor ignor the presstitutes that rattle the swords of war (most of the MSM), but we shouldn't be shocked or even surprised, this is Beltway Reality. Peace!

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