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(3,910 posts) Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:08 PM Jul 2013

Pap and Seder: Obama Finally Steps Up Against Climate Change

Ring of Fire hosts Mike Papantonio and Sam Seder discuss Obama's new environmental action plan that relies on cuts to carbon emissions that could lead to a greater reliance on renewable energy sources.

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Pap and Seder: Obama Finally Steps Up Against Climate Change (Original Post) GoLeft TV Jul 2013 OP

Any help for the wolves? rwsanders Jul 2013 #1

Wolves are doing really good!! SkyDaddy7 Jul 2013 #2

I'd agree with that if "are" was changed to "were"... rwsanders Jul 2013 #4

As long as the numbers do not decline... SkyDaddy7 Jul 2013 #5

Under state management plans, the numbers will drop. According to Defenders of Wildlife... rwsanders Jul 2013 #6

This isn't new DFW Jul 2013 #3

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)

1. Any help for the wolves?

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2013, 08:56 PM

Jul 2013

Didn't think so, but saying something about climate change is nice.

SkyDaddy7

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2. Wolves are doing really good!!

Reply to rwsanders (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 27, 2013, 07:44 AM

Jul 2013

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)

4. I'd agree with that if "are" was changed to "were"...

Reply to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 27, 2013, 12:22 PM

Jul 2013

Fragmented habitat, open season on them now in the west (ESA protections removed), and a "recovery" that was at best 1% of historical population isn't "really good".
I really despise those sick cowards out west.

SkyDaddy7

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5. As long as the numbers do not decline...

Reply to rwsanders (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 29, 2013, 08:50 AM

Jul 2013

to a point that hurts the genetic diversity & is monitored by wildlife biologist to ensure the population is managed correctly.

I know what you are talking about out West...They think killing will solve all their problems regardless is the science says otherwise.

rwsanders

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6. Under state management plans, the numbers will drop. According to Defenders of Wildlife...

Reply to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 29, 2013, 09:56 PM

Jul 2013

Wyoming is still offering a bounty on dead wolves.
Their habitat is fragmented and genetic diversity will be a real problem. Recent studie have shown problems creeping into the population on Isle Royale, which has been used as a standard to set very low numbers for maintaining a "healthy, genetically diverse" population.
Restoring ESA protections is the only way. I really hope some organization will stand up and take on the beef industry on this one. This is the primary reason I won't eat beef and I'm waiting to find a group to throw my support behind that isn't going to back away from this fight.

DFW

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3. This isn't new

Reply to GoLeft TV (Original post)

Sat Jul 27, 2013, 10:42 AM

Jul 2013

Obama stated that he wanted a law to require utilities to obtain at least 15% of their energy from renewables. This may have gotten buried under all the other crap that gone down, but he said this as a mater of fact exactly one year ago today, and I don't think he said it on the spur of the moment, either.

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