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"Snowden admitted to taking the NSA position specifically to expose the U.S. government, and the Obama Administration specifically. Again he made a move that looks far more politically charged than someone blowing the whistle for the good of all of humanity. In fact, the bottom line here is that proponents of privacy, civil liberties and due process would do well to distance themselves from Snowden as quickly as possible. As each day goes by, and as he cozies up with countries that are just as shady, if not more so than the U.S., he pushes himself further into the spotlight as a hypocrite. The truth is he knows he has to hang out in countries that are frosty with America right now, because any other country that believes in the rule of law would extradite him post-haste." ~ James Schlarmann
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)And it has absolutely nothing to do with the good of "his" country.
HumansAndResources
(229 posts)The 'safety of the American people' would be in no danger if our government were not committing henious crimes, around the world, every day, to protect the stolen-vested-interests of Transnational Corporations. When Pelosi and Graham, Cheney and Obama, criticize Mr. Snowden - they show that they are NOT for the Bill of Rights - that they are, first and foremost, for continuing to lay the groundwork for the "turnkey tyranny" that Mr. Snowden spoke of.
Put this in context, people: The NDAA law, passed by Congress and signed by the President, says any person, American or otherwise, can be "indefinitely detained." Add spying and storage of all personal communications to that - a "dossier" on every citizen of the planet - and what do you get??
What Mr. Snowden thinks of Social Security is a red-herring; but on that topic, I'd like to have the T-Bills my witholding paid for back - not have my 'future benefits' cut in a transfer of those assets to the Pentagon budget - as Obama and the Rethugs seem to have in mind.
What Mr. Snowden said about leaking secrets about Iranian Nuclear operations in 2009 is also a red-herring; he has revealed NOTHING about surveillance of foreign-government assets - only civilian targets.
Where Mr. Snowden went is a red-herring. He went where he thought he could avoid being TORTURED like Bradley Manning. Try naked in a cold cell with no blanket for one day and let me know how that goes for you - then imagine a year plus.
Finally, something has happened that revealed the most important character of our Politicians and many others - are they FOR or AGAINST Tyranny? Now we at least know who NOT to support in the future; even Mr. Trump 'outed' himself as a member of the cheering-squad for a Total Police State. Let the attacks on Mr. Snowden keep coming - this cuts through all the wedge-issue bull, and lets us know who all the Real Traitors are.
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)Should be fun watching the hair on fire group ignore this one. But but... Obama is talking about CCPI.
HumansAndResources
(229 posts)The TPP - Trans Pacific Partnership, may work out about as well for workers as NAFTA did. Of course, he can't tell us about it, because it is 'secret'; the Transnational Corporate Execs and their cronies in government have decided that We The People shouldn't know what "they" have in store for "our" future.
What we do know was "leaked" by some dastardly fellow who didn't "obey" his order of silence. Hope more "bad people" like that - you know, those with a conscience - can help us prepare for the next assault on our declining standard of living under Global Corporatism.
Cha
(297,285 posts)thanks for the Graphic, Galraedia..
bowens43
(16,064 posts)but keep on attacking him and keep on ignoring the real issue.....
Galraedia
(5,026 posts)What proof has Snowden offered to support his claim that from he could wiretap anyone from a federal judge to even the president?
NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)he seems like a smart guy, and lots of smart young people are easily swayed by these sorts of arguments (and plenty of older people are for that matter). The question is what does he believe now. He may well have changed/evolved as he became the ripe age of 29.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)There is a surveillance program that violates citizens' rights and puts all of us -- including senators and members of Congress -- at risk of blackmail. Those who control that information control the way this country is run. That is a serious problem, one that needs the citizenry to protest, cuz otherwise it won't be changed.