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Neil deGrasse Tyson -- We Stopped Dreaming (Original Post) LongTomH Apr 2013 OP
I hate these videos where the "moving" music drowns out the words. Bucky Apr 2013 #1
Maybe this will be better Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #2
Way worse. nt valerief Apr 2013 #7
You wound me! nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #9
Mwahahahaha! Don't take it personally. Music other ppl find beautiful I usually find annoying. valerief Apr 2013 #16
Don't make me sic Carmina Burana on you Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #17
Now you're just being cruel. valerief Apr 2013 #18
Just for that... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #10
Uh oh. Now it's just getting ugly. Bucky Apr 2013 #12
Now my damn ears are bleeding!!!!! valerief Apr 2013 #19
Me, too. It's like it's saying, "What the narrator is saying isn't interesting enough, so here's valerief Apr 2013 #6
Yes, very weird choice here because Neil deGrasse Tyson is always interesting. (not sarcastic) n/t StrayKat Apr 2013 #14
I agree!!!! (also no sarcasm). nt valerief Apr 2013 #15
I hate videos with 'moving' music regardless. I hate that kind of emotional manipulation on HiPointDem Apr 2013 #22
well I loved the video olddots Apr 2013 #3
Here's a partial transcript for Episode 2... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #4
Thanks for the transcript, DreamGypsy LongTomH Apr 2013 #5
Kicking MoreGOPoop Apr 2013 #8
Excellent. blackspade Apr 2013 #11
the point that "Neil" is making is on an order of magnitude more important than the music! 02potato Apr 2013 #13
Neil, hate to tell you, but we "mortgaged the nation's future" by outsourcing IT/engineering jobs to antigop Apr 2013 #20
This is one of the issues that I would like to discuss with Dr. Tyson.... LongTomH Apr 2013 #21

valerief

(53,235 posts)
16. Mwahahahaha! Don't take it personally. Music other ppl find beautiful I usually find annoying.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:32 AM
Apr 2013

I'm demonized by my personal musical tastes.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
6. Me, too. It's like it's saying, "What the narrator is saying isn't interesting enough, so here's
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:58 PM
Apr 2013

some music to grab your attention."

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
22. I hate videos with 'moving' music regardless. I hate that kind of emotional manipulation on
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:44 PM
Apr 2013

principle.

movies too. i hate scored movies. i'd much prefer films where the only music was music that was part of the action.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
4. Here's a partial transcript for Episode 2...
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:28 PM
Apr 2013

from here:

(NB: I didn't replay the video to verify accuracy or completeness of the transcript, but it's clearly a pretty good attempt at recreating NDGT's message. I made one obvious correction - at the end of the third paragraph I changed "There's still campus on rest." to "There's still campus unrest.")

Space. Three hundred billion dollar industry worldwide. NASA is actually a tiny percentage of that. Interesting. How small a percent NASA is to the total world spending of space. That little bit, however, is what inspires dreams. Every corporation in here with representatives to this conference: If you ever even touched a science mission, you'd lead off with that in your quarterly reports -- annual reports.

Because, it inspires, it is the act of discovery that empowers nations in the world to undertake this activities. We know this. Apollo 8. That was the FIRST TIME anybody ever LEFT Earth! With a destination in mind. Yeah, figure-eighted around the moon. Photo. Of Earth. Rising over the lunar landscape. Earthrise over the moon. There was Earth. Seen not as the mapmaker would have you identify it. No. The countries were not color coded. With boundaries. It was seen as nature intended it to be viewed. Oceans. Land. Clouds.

We went to the moon and we discovered Earth! I claim we discovered Earth. For the first time. How does that affect culture? I got a list! The instance that photo comes out, that is the identifying cover picture of the whole Earth catalog. Thinking of Earth as a whole. Not as a place where nations war. As a whole. 1970. The comprehensive Clean Air Act. Earth Day was birthed, March 1970. The Environmental Protection Agency was founded in 1970. The organization Doctors Without Borders was founded in 1971. Where do you even get that phrase from!? No one thought of that phrase before that photo was published. Because every globe in your classroom has countries painted on it. DDT gets banned in 1972. We're still going to the moon; we're still looking back to Earth. Clean Water Act, 1971. 1972, Endangered Species Act. The catalytic converter gets put in, in 1973. Unleaded gas, 1973. We're still at war in Vietnam! There's still campus unrest. Yet, we found the time to start thinking about Earth.

That is space, operating on our culture and you cannot even put a price on that. That is-- that is, a nation, that is a world, we're acting to a new perspective on what it is to be alive, on this planet we all share. We need to look at NASA not as a hand-out, but as an investment. Because, as goes, the health of space varying ambitions, so to goes the spiritual, the emotional, the intellectual, the creative and the economic ambitions of a nation. So goes the future of America.


Neil is, as usual, completely captures the situation and presents it with passion and eloquence. There obviously have been other 'big science' projects: the Manhattan Project for example, or the Humane Genome, various particle physics programs (SLAC, Battavia, etc.) ... but for my generation (or at least for me...a bit audacious to claim to speak for a whole generation ) growing up in the late 50's and 60's the space program was truly inspirational.

Thanks very much for posting these videos, LTH.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
5. Thanks for the transcript, DreamGypsy
Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:36 PM
Apr 2013

Yes, I remember those days. There was a time I wanted to work for NASA. If I'd had better study habits, I might have made it in aerospace engineering (And ended up as an unemployed engineer in the 70s). I did become the first in my family to go to college and eventually made it into IT.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
20. Neil, hate to tell you, but we "mortgaged the nation's future" by outsourcing IT/engineering jobs to
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:49 PM
Apr 2013

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other countries.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
21. This is one of the issues that I would like to discuss with Dr. Tyson....
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 03:08 PM
Apr 2013

.....however, all the points he makes about the value of space exploration are still valid.

Also, I believe the two videos are worth watching, both for their content and their beauty!

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