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The video Exxon oil co and The GOP DON'T want you to see. Oil flowing down residential street (Original Post) Tx4obama Mar 2013 OP
It looks like the oil is giving them a slidewalk mindwalker_i Mar 2013 #1
oh you're slick Riverman100 Mar 2013 #10
.... Lochloosa Mar 2013 #16
This spill was Canadian tar sands crude, nearly impossible to clean up. Divernan Apr 2013 #35
It's too oily in the day rocktivity Apr 2013 #41
:D lexw Apr 2013 #70
Let's make sure everyone sees this. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #2
(Worth sharing to FB & twitter), . .k&r. . n/t annabanana Mar 2013 #3
Thanks for posting. Another DUer posted pictures and I knew the fumes would be awful. freshwest Mar 2013 #4
10 bucks says Rachel will run with it by Wednesday next week. Volaris Mar 2013 #5
Yup, the internet will have to take care of it. I remember the days and weeks of coverage of the freshwest Mar 2013 #7
Maybe we should force the Koch Bros. to drink the spilled oil meow2u3 Mar 2013 #21
Nah, ain't gonna happen. They own the best water, too. Pollution is their 'gift' to us. freshwest Mar 2013 #23
Drill Baby, Drill white cloud Mar 2013 #8
Her life was never normal... Just sayin' freshwest Mar 2013 #9
Maybe these home owners would sell their properties to her. Plucketeer Apr 2013 #67
Interesting that they seem to have taped this in a vehicle that runs on petroleum. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #6
The way you drive I'm surprised you aren't on a fucking bicycle. cliffordu Mar 2013 #11
I sold my fucking bicycle. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #13
Well.... cliffordu Apr 2013 #31
I thought it was interesting that he thought his house was okay on the other side of the street. intheflow Mar 2013 #18
Right? LOL. I think they worried about who would clean it up. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #20
henry ford built electric cars! pretzel4gore Apr 2013 #43
I've got the DVD, excellent documentary. Also have "revenge of electric car" but havent' watched it NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #44
With all due respect, SKP, that's a fallacious argument... truth2power Apr 2013 #46
Oh, you're right. NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #48
No problem. I just feel so helpless most of the time... truth2power Apr 2013 #49
People don't know the half of it (our petroleum infrastructure at risk of failure): NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #50
Psychopaths, hiding behind corporate entities, making billions by raping & pillaging our planet. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #58
Wow you missed the point Smilo Apr 2013 #64
Irony fredzachmane Mar 2013 #12
How would YOU tape this spill, fredzachmane? rdharma Mar 2013 #15
Just to make your tableau complete .... Trajan Apr 2013 #29
Wow, nice catch! Oh, the hypocrisy! hatrack Apr 2013 #37
yes, they were made with oil... lame54 Apr 2013 #38
Pushing pipeline is keystone to Terry's D.C. career. IADEMO2004 Mar 2013 #14
It's the new normal. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #17
Not to worry. Oil running down the catch basin is a federal crime if jerseyjack Mar 2013 #19
Oh yeah. Hordes of EPA agents are massing at the Arkansas border even as we speak. RufusTFirefly Apr 2013 #27
Nothing to see here, folks, move along now... Dryvinwhileblind Apr 2013 #61
Except for marijuana laws, does the Federal govt enforce the laws anymore? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #30
I think about that a lot. Seems like the only laws the Feds are willing to enforce truth2power Apr 2013 #47
Good to see the crews there, mobilized to do the cleanup in emergency mode NBachers Mar 2013 #22
Where is that Sham-Wow guy when you need him? James48 Mar 2013 #24
Boo hoo. Freedom isn't free, Morans! RufusTFirefly Apr 2013 #25
Isn't this really dangerous.... zentrum Apr 2013 #26
Black gold! Texas tea! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2013 #28
To be frank... bpollen Apr 2013 #32
It's hard for a stuggling industry to enact effective safety measures. Make7 Apr 2013 #33
Let's rush to get that Keystone Pipeline approved now. No environmental danger, right? AndyA Apr 2013 #34
My question... ReRe Apr 2013 #36
Can't you just wait for the XL to rupture? sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #39
It's even more heinous with the banner ad encouraging me to "Invest in oil!" raouldukelives Apr 2013 #40
Wish we could bus in some Teabaggers and show them their glorious free-market system at work. Crowman1979 Apr 2013 #42
Well, they actually live in that neighborhood. BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #51
How do you like Glaisne Apr 2013 #45
How DARE this neighborhood steal this corporation's product??!!! It's an outrage! ZRT2209 Apr 2013 #52
Great video. thanks...nt Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #53
Soon, I guess we'll be seeing a crop of newstories saying how petroleum is good for your lawn. nt valerief Apr 2013 #54
kick limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #55
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #56
Big oil has power without responsibility. Maybe now people will start to wake up? CrispyQ Apr 2013 #57
Oil is the real root of all evil. Initech Apr 2013 #59
Those residents need to make a class action suit against Exxon ASAP. Cleita Apr 2013 #60
the place is now a toxic dump. Kurovski Apr 2013 #62
Remember the good old days when all we had to worry about was... AdHocSolver Apr 2013 #63
What will it take to end the madness... humbled_opinion Apr 2013 #65
Most likely massive civi l dis obedience. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #66
Kick. Thnx Tx grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #68
Posted on FB. This is awful! lexw Apr 2013 #69
i just checked MSNBC. barbtries Apr 2013 #71
The new Chris Hayes show on MSNBC covered the oil spill as the opening segment (8pm ET) Tx4obama Apr 2013 #72
Benzene - Isn't that like soldierant Apr 2013 #73

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
35. This spill was Canadian tar sands crude, nearly impossible to clean up.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:15 AM
Apr 2013
http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20130330/exxon-confirms-ruptured-pipeline-ark-carried-canadian-dilbit
The 20-inch Pegasus pipeline runs 858 miles from Patoka, Ill. to Nederland, Texas. Engelmann said the line was carrying Wabasca Heavy crude from western Canada when it ruptured.

Wabasca Heavy is a type of diluted bitumen, or dilbit, from Alberta's tar sands region, according to the Canadian Crude Quality Monitoring Program, an industry source that provides data on different types of Canadian oil.

Because dilbit contains bitumen—a type of crude oil that's heavier (50 to 70 times heavier!)than most conventional crude oil—it can be harder to clean up when it spills into water. A 2010 spill in Michigan, which released a million gallons of dilbit in the Kalamazoo River and has cost pipeline operator Enbridge more than $820 million, continues to challenge scientists and regulators as they work on removing submerged oil from the riverbed.


A 2010 spill in Kalamazoo, MI, has STILL not been cleaned up, despite monumental efforts. This link is to a report one year after (2011), and explains why tar sands oil is so much more difficult, in part impossible, to clean up. These folks in Arkansas can kiss that street goodbye. No home insurer or mortgage broker will touch those properties.
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/aswift/kalamazoo_one_year_later_anato.html#.UVig9qx8gjo.facebook

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. Thanks for posting. Another DUer posted pictures and I knew the fumes would be awful.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:36 PM
Mar 2013

He asked people to download the pictures because the news in that area would pull them soon. Just like the BP photos, removed as if it never happened. This is good because he uploaded it and the content belongs to him. We should work to see these get national attention because the news no longer works in the public interest in any way whatsoever!

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
5. 10 bucks says Rachel will run with it by Wednesday next week.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:49 PM
Mar 2013

not to worry. THIS one isn't out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, where a lot of people don't live.

For-Profit is fine, as long as it ISN'T encroaching our preceptions of "The American Dream". With the posting of that video, that little, small-town, All-American-neighborhood just got Public Support to file the biggest goddamned Class-Action lawsuit in the History of America, as far as I'm concerened, and Exxon's PR people probably KNOW IT.

Even if it doesn't come to that, I bet EVERY ONE of those homowners now thinks Solar Panels and Chevy Volt's would have been a better way to go.

Exxon's going to be well and truly fucked on this one, Thanks Internet=)

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. Yup, the internet will have to take care of it. I remember the days and weeks of coverage of the
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:53 PM
Mar 2013
EXXON Valdez spill in Alaska - it was gut wrenching and galvanized the public to demand changes.

That didn't last for long as the Koch brothers kept on working their way into the body politic and the RW got hold of the mainstream media.

This is what we have left to us.

Go internet!!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Her life was never normal... Just sayin'
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:07 PM
Mar 2013

She still blabbers like the rest of the reptilian shapeshifters... Or zombies, take your pick.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
67. Maybe these home owners would sell their properties to her.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

Imagine buying lands that you KNOW are heavy with crude!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. Interesting that they seem to have taped this in a vehicle that runs on petroleum.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 09:52 PM
Mar 2013

That part always makes me LOL.

Prius driver here, 140,000 miles, there wasn't an electric vehicle to be had when I bought it in 2007.

There are now, however!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
13. I sold my fucking bicycle.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:20 PM
Mar 2013

It kept breaking out of the yard and fucking the neighbors' bicycles!

Fucker!

intheflow

(28,472 posts)
18. I thought it was interesting that he thought his house was okay on the other side of the street.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:56 PM
Mar 2013

Because dirt isn't porous or anything, there's no way a major oil spill flowing down your street could affect your property values or anything.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
20. Right? LOL. I think they worried about who would clean it up.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:14 PM
Mar 2013

Oil on asphalt, which is made from OIL, is actually a pain in the ass.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
43. henry ford built electric cars!
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:36 AM
Apr 2013

chk out 'who killed the electric car' documentary etc....it mentions that several companies were building electric cars way back when. Indeed, the electric forklift has been a staple of industry for decades. Unfortunately, the oil industry needed a market, and ... well you get the pic! Btw, in 1890's one could travel from New yerk city to florida on CITY TRANSIT TRAINS! and they were all private enterprise!
If we knew the truth about what the moneypigs have done to create easy profits (from oil found in public grounds!) there'd be a goddam revolution. Oh wait. THERE was a revolution! In 1796! and again in 1917! but we crushed them working fellers, yes we did!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
44. I've got the DVD, excellent documentary. Also have "revenge of electric car" but havent' watched it
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:39 AM
Apr 2013

Rudolf Diesel's design was meant for biofuel, peanut or other oils, IIRC, but turned out to work on petroleum fuel.

Diesel!

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
46. With all due respect, SKP, that's a fallacious argument...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:47 AM
Apr 2013

Some of us don't have a choice. I would LOVE to have a Prius, but it's way beyond my income.

I couldn't even afford the payments.

Furthermore, if there were any real impetus to develop a public transportation system in this country, I would certainly use it wherever possible.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
48. Oh, you're right.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:58 AM
Apr 2013

I was just in a snarky mood.

I think most of us do the best we can with what we have.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
50. People don't know the half of it (our petroleum infrastructure at risk of failure):
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

There are over 43,000 miles of pipeline under water, in the Gulf alone.

And 50,686 individual bore holes or wells, in the Gulf alone.

Some of this infrastructure is over 60 years old.



CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
58. Psychopaths, hiding behind corporate entities, making billions by raping & pillaging our planet.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:18 PM
Apr 2013

When I think what that area must have been like 200 years ago, my heart aches. What is it about being the dominate species & stewardship that we don't understand?

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
64. Wow you missed the point
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 05:19 PM
Apr 2013

this is about failure to maintain pipelines and loss of oil. Why is this oil going under someone's division? Why did this pipeline fail?

Stop being smug about what you drive - we should be pulling together demanding better maintenance, etc. of these types of pipelines.

 

fredzachmane

(85 posts)
12. Irony
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:19 PM
Mar 2013

Guy taping oil spill (using camera made with oil products) while driving car (fueled by oil product) then uploads it to youtube (using computer, cables, etc made with oil products)

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
15. How would YOU tape this spill, fredzachmane?
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:31 PM
Mar 2013

Or would you rather that the environmental mess was just quietly ignored?

Oh, BTW..... welcome! I see you're new here.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
29. Just to make your tableau complete ....
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:37 AM
Apr 2013

I've made you a cocktail of 30 wt motor oil, with a gasoline shot and some tar balls as a garnish ...

Drink up, purveyor of the all encompassing petroleum life of which we must never dissent ....

hatrack

(59,585 posts)
37. Wow, nice catch! Oh, the hypocrisy!
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:53 AM
Apr 2013

Meaning that if you don't live in a cave and make fire by rubbing two sticks together, you can't comment on energy or environmental policy, or, maybe on a river of oil running down the street in your neighborhood?

I'll be sure to keep that in mind.

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
14. Pushing pipeline is keystone to Terry's D.C. career.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:25 PM
Mar 2013

I shit you not headline front page of today's Omaha World Herald. Nebraska Congressman Lee Terry(R) water boy for Keystone XL.

Story about his work pushing the pipeline. Sorry the story is print only. I checked for a link and haven't found one. I had just watched this video this morning and then walked to the mailbox to get the Sunday paper and saw the story. Poor sad Republican happy little story washed away in a flood of crude oil.

Hope they win the battle keeping it out of the lake.

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
17. It's the new normal.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:51 PM
Mar 2013

Hey, BP trashed the gulf coast with no consequences. What's a little oil in a neighborhood?

 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
19. Not to worry. Oil running down the catch basin is a federal crime if
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:12 PM
Mar 2013

the water ends up in a body of water. We can be sure the E.P.A. is on it.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
27. Oh yeah. Hordes of EPA agents are massing at the Arkansas border even as we speak.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:20 AM
Apr 2013




Meanwhile, the President is slipping into his comfortable shoes.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
47. I think about that a lot. Seems like the only laws the Feds are willing to enforce
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:52 AM
Apr 2013

are those related to MJ.

Pathetic, isn't it?

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
25. Boo hoo. Freedom isn't free, Morans!
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:06 AM
Apr 2013

It takes energy to be the greatest Nation that history has ever known.

As the great Buck Turgidson once put it, "I'm not saying we're not going to get our hair mussed," but as the great Madeleine Albright once said, "we think the price is worth it."

Sorry Arkansas. Get over it. Look forward. We need our oil and everyone has to share in the sacrifice.

U-S-A! U-S-A!


(Do I really need to add this? )

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
26. Isn't this really dangerous....
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:12 AM
Apr 2013

...in terms of fire too? Some teen with a lit cigarette, or a spark from an electric lawnmower?

bpollen

(110 posts)
32. To be frank...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 03:22 AM
Apr 2013

Holy ship! That is fargin' outrageous!

But, that being said, I think that I would rather see housing developments get hit with oil spills than farmland (Yeah, Keystone!) Most of what we eat is not produced in housing subdivisions.

Make7

(8,543 posts)
33. It's hard for a stuggling industry to enact effective safety measures.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 03:27 AM
Apr 2013

Perhaps the government would be willing to give them some subsidies...

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
34. Let's rush to get that Keystone Pipeline approved now. No environmental danger, right?
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:06 AM
Apr 2013

With all the oil company mishaps lately, it seems to me the oil companies are a lot *less* responsible than so many seem to think they are. (Including President Obama, who said the environmental dangers of Keystone are exaggerated, as well as the benefits of the pipeline.)

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
40. It's even more heinous with the banner ad encouraging me to "Invest in oil!"
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:44 AM
Apr 2013

Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather not be sharing in the ownership of this.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
51. Well, they actually live in that neighborhood.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

And of course, since it's happening to them, we can assume they'll be screaming for help.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
57. Big oil has power without responsibility. Maybe now people will start to wake up?
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 02:13 PM
Apr 2013

This is not some rural area with a few houses spread out here & there. This is a neighborhood that a huge number of Americans actually relate to. Will they wake up & realize "It can happen to you."

Initech

(100,074 posts)
59. Oil is the real root of all evil.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 03:38 PM
Apr 2013

Evil men own it. Evil men control it. It destroys cities and whole ecosystems. We fight our wars because the people who control it need more.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
60. Those residents need to make a class action suit against Exxon ASAP.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 04:03 PM
Apr 2013

People need to do that across the nation. We have ghost town south of where I live here where there was such a leak forty years ago. God knows how many more there are. It's time to nationalize all the oil in this country. It's a national resource that is sometimes going to foreign producers and definitely to a few Wall Street speculators. It should be owned by the people and the profits used for the people. The people can also regulate it so those spills and pollution become fewer and rare.

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
62. the place is now a toxic dump.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 04:32 PM
Apr 2013

people who stay will find many, many health problems. Extremely toxic crap.


Fuck Exxon. what the fuck can we fucking do here? I mean, is there ANYONE who can pay politically for all this ongoing destruction? Isn't every single politician owned by oil?

AdHocSolver

(2,561 posts)
63. Remember the good old days when all we had to worry about was...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 05:18 PM
Apr 2013

...Leaded gasoline, lead paint, DDT, secondary cigarette smoke, CFC's, and asbestos lined brakes.

Modern industry -- bringing new excitement into your life.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
65. What will it take to end the madness...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 05:49 PM
Apr 2013

Rant On:

You know the environmental movement was kickstarted in the 1970's when the countries awareness level was raised during the Cayahoga river fire... Rivers burning made for great publicity in favor of environmental issues...... It is way past time that the national consciousness be reawakened to environmental concerns... If images from the Exxon Valdez Oil disaster the BP oil mega disaster and now rivers of oil flooding neighborhoods won't do it, that I don't know what will....

Will it take a great sinkhole collapse, of an entire community thousands dead, where fracking causes such unstable earth that it swallows up whole towns?

Will it take a lake or river exploding from the build up of natural gas polluting the water?

Will it take the Island nation of the Maldives to disappear forever into the ocean because of sea level rise due to ice cap melt? Or a mega Hurricane produced from the overheated earth?

Sadly the earth has been warning us for quite sometime that something is about to give....but you know now that I am on this tangent, what really irks me is the fact that so called conservatives at least those in the middleclass, should be natural supporters of environmental issues, they clamour on about the debt and leaving a nation of debt to our children and theirs but what about the earth leaving a dead or dying planet seems like it should trump the debt IMHO....

ENOUGH!...

Rant Off...


soldierant

(6,861 posts)
73. Benzene - Isn't that like
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:57 PM
Apr 2013

having a dry cleaning plant explode in your living room? Oh wait - I think it used to be used in spot removal and dry cleaning but was found to be too dangerous?

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