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Related: About this forumThe video Exxon oil co and The GOP DON'T want you to see. Oil flowing down residential street
Related post: http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-video-exxon-oil-company-and.html
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Sorry, probably a crude joke.
Riverman100
(275 posts)went to the well one too many times
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)The 20-inch Pegasus pipeline runs 858 miles from Patoka, Ill. to Nederland, Texas. Engelmann said the line was carrying Wabasca Heavy crude from western Canada when it ruptured.
Wabasca Heavy is a type of diluted bitumen, or dilbit, from Alberta's tar sands region, according to the Canadian Crude Quality Monitoring Program, an industry source that provides data on different types of Canadian oil.
Because dilbit contains bitumena type of crude oil that's heavier (50 to 70 times heavier!)than most conventional crude oilit can be harder to clean up when it spills into water. A 2010 spill in Michigan, which released a million gallons of dilbit in the Kalamazoo River and has cost pipeline operator Enbridge more than $820 million, continues to challenge scientists and regulators as they work on removing submerged oil from the riverbed.
A 2010 spill in Kalamazoo, MI, has STILL not been cleaned up, despite monumental efforts. This link is to a report one year after (2011), and explains why tar sands oil is so much more difficult, in part impossible, to clean up. These folks in Arkansas can kiss that street goodbye. No home insurer or mortgage broker will touch those properties.
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/aswift/kalamazoo_one_year_later_anato.html#.UVig9qx8gjo.facebook
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)for these kinds of jokes.
rocktivity
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,615 posts)Awful.
Fucking awful.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)He asked people to download the pictures because the news in that area would pull them soon. Just like the BP photos, removed as if it never happened. This is good because he uploaded it and the content belongs to him. We should work to see these get national attention because the news no longer works in the public interest in any way whatsoever!
Volaris
(10,270 posts)not to worry. THIS one isn't out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico, where a lot of people don't live.
For-Profit is fine, as long as it ISN'T encroaching our preceptions of "The American Dream". With the posting of that video, that little, small-town, All-American-neighborhood just got Public Support to file the biggest goddamned Class-Action lawsuit in the History of America, as far as I'm concerened, and Exxon's PR people probably KNOW IT.
Even if it doesn't come to that, I bet EVERY ONE of those homowners now thinks Solar Panels and Chevy Volt's would have been a better way to go.
Exxon's going to be well and truly fucked on this one, Thanks Internet=)
freshwest
(53,661 posts)That didn't last for long as the Koch brothers kept on working their way into the body politic and the RW got hold of the mainstream media.
This is what we have left to us.
Go internet!!
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)white cloud
(2,567 posts)"I would like for my life to get back to normal"
K&R
freshwest
(53,661 posts)She still blabbers like the rest of the reptilian shapeshifters... Or zombies, take your pick.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Imagine buying lands that you KNOW are heavy with crude!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)That part always makes me LOL.
Prius driver here, 140,000 miles, there wasn't an electric vehicle to be had when I bought it in 2007.
There are now, however!
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It kept breaking out of the yard and fucking the neighbors' bicycles!
Fucker!
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)YOU SHOULDA HAD YOUR BICYCLE FIXED, GODDAMMIT.
They ARE like horses, ya know.....
intheflow
(28,472 posts)Because dirt isn't porous or anything, there's no way a major oil spill flowing down your street could affect your property values or anything.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Oil on asphalt, which is made from OIL, is actually a pain in the ass.
pretzel4gore
(8,146 posts)chk out 'who killed the electric car' documentary etc....it mentions that several companies were building electric cars way back when. Indeed, the electric forklift has been a staple of industry for decades. Unfortunately, the oil industry needed a market, and ... well you get the pic! Btw, in 1890's one could travel from New yerk city to florida on CITY TRANSIT TRAINS! and they were all private enterprise!
If we knew the truth about what the moneypigs have done to create easy profits (from oil found in public grounds!) there'd be a goddam revolution. Oh wait. THERE was a revolution! In 1796! and again in 1917! but we crushed them working fellers, yes we did!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Rudolf Diesel's design was meant for biofuel, peanut or other oils, IIRC, but turned out to work on petroleum fuel.
Diesel!
truth2power
(8,219 posts)Some of us don't have a choice. I would LOVE to have a Prius, but it's way beyond my income.
I couldn't even afford the payments.
Furthermore, if there were any real impetus to develop a public transportation system in this country, I would certainly use it wherever possible.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I was just in a snarky mood.
I think most of us do the best we can with what we have.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)I don't know what's going to become of us.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)There are over 43,000 miles of pipeline under water, in the Gulf alone.
And 50,686 individual bore holes or wells, in the Gulf alone.
Some of this infrastructure is over 60 years old.
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)When I think what that area must have been like 200 years ago, my heart aches. What is it about being the dominate species & stewardship that we don't understand?
Smilo
(1,944 posts)this is about failure to maintain pipelines and loss of oil. Why is this oil going under someone's division? Why did this pipeline fail?
Stop being smug about what you drive - we should be pulling together demanding better maintenance, etc. of these types of pipelines.
fredzachmane
(85 posts)Guy taping oil spill (using camera made with oil products) while driving car (fueled by oil product) then uploads it to youtube (using computer, cables, etc made with oil products)
rdharma
(6,057 posts)Or would you rather that the environmental mess was just quietly ignored?
Oh, BTW..... welcome! I see you're new here.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)I've made you a cocktail of 30 wt motor oil, with a gasoline shot and some tar balls as a garnish ...
Drink up, purveyor of the all encompassing petroleum life of which we must never dissent ....
hatrack
(59,585 posts)Meaning that if you don't live in a cave and make fire by rubbing two sticks together, you can't comment on energy or environmental policy, or, maybe on a river of oil running down the street in your neighborhood?
I'll be sure to keep that in mind.
lame54
(35,290 posts)not spilled oil
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)I shit you not headline front page of today's Omaha World Herald. Nebraska Congressman Lee Terry(R) water boy for Keystone XL.
Story about his work pushing the pipeline. Sorry the story is print only. I checked for a link and haven't found one. I had just watched this video this morning and then walked to the mailbox to get the Sunday paper and saw the story. Poor sad Republican happy little story washed away in a flood of crude oil.
Hope they win the battle keeping it out of the lake.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Hey, BP trashed the gulf coast with no consequences. What's a little oil in a neighborhood?
jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)the water ends up in a body of water. We can be sure the E.P.A. is on it.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Meanwhile, the President is slipping into his comfortable shoes.
Dryvinwhileblind
(153 posts)...wait, hold it, SECURITY?!
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)truth2power
(8,219 posts)are those related to MJ.
Pathetic, isn't it?
NBachers
(17,108 posts)James48
(4,436 posts)Sham=Wow! Cleans up messes in a jiffy!
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)It takes energy to be the greatest Nation that history has ever known.
As the great Buck Turgidson once put it, "I'm not saying we're not going to get our hair mussed," but as the great Madeleine Albright once said, "we think the price is worth it."
Sorry Arkansas. Get over it. Look forward. We need our oil and everyone has to share in the sacrifice.
U-S-A! U-S-A!
(Do I really need to add this? )
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...in terms of fire too? Some teen with a lit cigarette, or a spark from an electric lawnmower?
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)bpollen
(110 posts)Holy ship! That is fargin' outrageous!
But, that being said, I think that I would rather see housing developments get hit with oil spills than farmland (Yeah, Keystone!) Most of what we eat is not produced in housing subdivisions.
Make7
(8,543 posts)Perhaps the government would be willing to give them some subsidies...
AndyA
(16,993 posts)With all the oil company mishaps lately, it seems to me the oil companies are a lot *less* responsible than so many seem to think they are. (Including President Obama, who said the environmental dangers of Keystone are exaggerated, as well as the benefits of the pipeline.)
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... Is HazMat cleaning this up?
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather not be sharing in the ownership of this.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)And of course, since it's happening to them, we can assume they'll be screaming for help.
Glaisne
(515 posts)your tar sands oil now tea baggers!! Maybe we should call you oil baggers!!
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)Paul E Ester
(952 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)This is not some rural area with a few houses spread out here & there. This is a neighborhood that a huge number of Americans actually relate to. Will they wake up & realize "It can happen to you."
Initech
(100,074 posts)Evil men own it. Evil men control it. It destroys cities and whole ecosystems. We fight our wars because the people who control it need more.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)People need to do that across the nation. We have ghost town south of where I live here where there was such a leak forty years ago. God knows how many more there are. It's time to nationalize all the oil in this country. It's a national resource that is sometimes going to foreign producers and definitely to a few Wall Street speculators. It should be owned by the people and the profits used for the people. The people can also regulate it so those spills and pollution become fewer and rare.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)people who stay will find many, many health problems. Extremely toxic crap.
Fuck Exxon. what the fuck can we fucking do here? I mean, is there ANYONE who can pay politically for all this ongoing destruction? Isn't every single politician owned by oil?
AdHocSolver
(2,561 posts)...Leaded gasoline, lead paint, DDT, secondary cigarette smoke, CFC's, and asbestos lined brakes.
Modern industry -- bringing new excitement into your life.
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)Rant On:
You know the environmental movement was kickstarted in the 1970's when the countries awareness level was raised during the Cayahoga river fire... Rivers burning made for great publicity in favor of environmental issues...... It is way past time that the national consciousness be reawakened to environmental concerns... If images from the Exxon Valdez Oil disaster the BP oil mega disaster and now rivers of oil flooding neighborhoods won't do it, that I don't know what will....
Will it take a great sinkhole collapse, of an entire community thousands dead, where fracking causes such unstable earth that it swallows up whole towns?
Will it take a lake or river exploding from the build up of natural gas polluting the water?
Will it take the Island nation of the Maldives to disappear forever into the ocean because of sea level rise due to ice cap melt? Or a mega Hurricane produced from the overheated earth?
Sadly the earth has been warning us for quite sometime that something is about to give....but you know now that I am on this tangent, what really irks me is the fact that so called conservatives at least those in the middleclass, should be natural supporters of environmental issues, they clamour on about the debt and leaving a nation of debt to our children and theirs but what about the earth leaving a dead or dying planet seems like it should trump the debt IMHO....
ENOUGH!...
Rant Off...
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)lexw
(804 posts)barbtries
(28,793 posts)not a word about this could i find.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)And here's a link on MSNBC re the spill: http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/01/is-the-arkansas-pipeline-spill-a-glimpse-into-our-oil-soaked-future/
soldierant
(6,861 posts)having a dry cleaning plant explode in your living room? Oh wait - I think it used to be used in spot removal and dry cleaning but was found to be too dangerous?