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BlueJersey.com reported Friday that during a town hall meeting at a church this week in Paterson, NJ, Governor Chris Christie let a racial slur slip when he called an African-American man a boy, a term closely related to the more severe N word. Christie has, in the past, touted a morally clean public image and has been quoted as saying language matters; language is a window into attitude.
Racist asshole
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...I'll rec because, although lacking in general context, I'm pretty sure why Christie used that word.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)totally bs takedown... and I don't even like the man. Try harder OP.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...and Christie didn't use it as an exclamation (like "oh boy" .
still_one
(92,219 posts)It was most likely meant in the form I hear you man or such
There are a lot of things to dislike Christie for, but he isn't a racist
Listen to the cpac garbage, or what is happening in Michigan, that's racism
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...but I NEVER have called anyone "boy". Never. Ever. And, I grew up only a few hundred miles from where Chistie grew up (and am roughly the same age).
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He is a prick. He plays the nice guy because he has to if he wants to have any chance at all at becoming president.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)tell him that.
still_one
(92,219 posts)Against a day honoring Martin Luther King, I absolutely believe McCain has racist feelings. In other words for me anyway, I need to see more than what Christie said before I would say he is a racist
marble falls
(57,106 posts)I heard, "I hear you! Boy, I hear you!." The guy was repeating himself at least three times, and Christy was letting him know he'd been heard and to allow Christy to finih. I would hae liked to hear a minute prior and a minute after, too.
Its bad enough to have racist Teapublicans talking their crap without miscalling this event.
I find him prickly and sometimes a bully but have seen no racism from him yet. I am willing to be educated about this if I'm wrong.
sangsaran
(67 posts)doesn't support the idea of "boy" being used as an interjection.
"Exclamation of surprise, pleasure or longing."
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I heard, "I hear ya' boy.
Not, "Boy, I hear ya'." There was no pause for a comma.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)And I have heard "boy" used in various contexts down here.
No missing the connotation in what he said.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Could it be like, "Allrightalready I hear ya!" Could be. I'd have to hear more of the meeting to judge. Want to give everyone the same fair judgment that I would want.
840high
(17,196 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)But it sounded a lot like the old school (Southern, even), racist usage of the word, to me.
Racism comes in many forms.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)out as a racial slur.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)helpful. Think of Breitbart's character assassination of Shirley Shirrod, who was then frog marched out office over 'racist' comments made out of edited footage.
mike dub
(541 posts)Sounded similar to usage of a very clipped, quick retort: 'boy oh boy'. Christie was on a tear.
And yes as a native Southerner, I understand "boy"'s racial usage/context.
brush
(53,787 posts)And you have to be delusional to believe anything else if you watched the clip. Christie was angry that a black guy of all people had the nerve to actually yell out and interrupt him. There's no mistaking that. I hope Hillary's people save this clip until 2016 because it will become quite useful during the presidential campaign.
On second thought, I'm sure there will be some republicans who will usethis clip against Christie during the primaries if he runs, and as far as any goodwill towards African Americans that was generated by his praise of President Obama's response after Hurricane Sandy, he can forget about that now, and any possible votes too.
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)ELI BOY 1950
(173 posts)i live in nj...Christie is a bully. An asshole. But not a racist/bigot.
i will never vote for him...unemployment is a point and a half above the average...he ran on not
cutting pensions...he did. He ran on cutting property taxes , he didn't ...he cut teachers , social
workers , and every social program known to man...
he is not a bigot...he is not mark rubio...if he was he would be at CPAC
trust me on this one
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)It's easy to hang "racist" on someone for an unfortunate remark, but it's seldom clear.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)In some circles it is just like saying 'man'.
Obviously it doesn't go over as 'harmless' in a group of African Americans, but not always meant to be a racial slur.
I don't think he was trying to be offensive. Just reckless.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)wasn't even a Freudian slip... very embarrassing... I'm no lover of Christie or any conservative.. from the intonation. I would class it as whoops. rather than anything more serious.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)And the kid next door (I say he was a kid, but he was about 20) was talking to me and I used 'boy' in a sentence.
He repeated it loudly a couple if times. I'm just a small town boy (pacific northwest). I was never around any African Americans and it was just how we talked.
I accidentally offended a few folks in the army too; they didn't seem to hold it against me for long.
There isn't any sense in beating up Christie about it anyway. He's as high as he's gonna go. If we best up on him about it; it might make him more popular with his base. Why should he benefit from something that was probably an accident.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Let that play out, and I would suspect that he said, I hear you. Boy do I hear you.
Look, there's enough to dislike about most Republicans. No need to play these games.
michigandem58
(1,044 posts)I don't think anyone is entitled to such a blanket amnesty. Racism is like evil. It exists in everyone, but to a different extent in each person. It's pretty clear to me from the cadence at which he said it he was referring to the speaker as "boy" and that's clearly racist.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)before judging? I would. That's a grave accusation. People should be given full opportunity for the whole context and intonation of speaking voices at a meeting before judgment.
Has he ever used the word before? Did anyone else use the word at that meeting? Two important things I'd want to know. Boy do I want to know those things before judging.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)it was a racist insult at the moment he said it. christie may not spend his days wallowing in hatred of the other, but his inner racist came out in that statement. i think he should acknowledge and apologize for it.
my opinion: the most insidious racism is that which is denied. i quit saying "i'm not a racist" the day the simi valley jury returned.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)If it had been an oriental or hispanic man saying these things to Christie, the word "boy" would not have been used. It was an angry response to someone who put him on the spot. And so it was racist at the moment he said it. He may not use the term that way, hardly ever, but "in the heat" sometimes things come out that you would not "normally" say in public, but do think them.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Let's here the whole exchange. That kind of editing is too close to Andrew Breitbart tactics.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Cons used over and over against Obama when he was referring to
roads and bridges getting to your business.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Round the boys up for a card game. All the boys are down at the bar.
IIRC, it's also the way lots of gangsters referred to their group. Edward G. Robinson, I think, used that term at least once in one of his gangster films.
Christie might have picked up the term.
The alternative is that he picked up the habit of addressing black men as "boy".
Color me doubtful.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)... hasn't got an innocent bone in his body. Wise up before he sells you a bridge.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)... those bells were a death knell for his chances in '16.
Don't imagine he'd ever call President Obama that, at least not to his face.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)I recall hecklers still getting a "Sir." I'm not saying it was conscious but the standard way to address even your antagonist for a public figure is "Sir" or "Mam" or "Miss" or "Young man", as the case may be.
Barney Frank still used a civil title toward his antagonist in this exchange:
KansDem
(28,498 posts)(4'02"
She's...Condi-scending!
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)I don't think it was meant as a slur at all. Just my take, but by all means smear away..... seems a bit much though, he'll never get the GOP nod, so It seems like wasted effort.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)but I don't get racism from this sentence.
Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)Maybe its his way of showing the CPAC crowd that he's still on of them..........